Gianfar Peaks

Prattle in The Peaks => General Discussion => Topic started by: Colin on September 30, 2012, 12:14:36 AM

Title: Colin's meeting notes
Post by: Colin on September 30, 2012, 12:14:36 AM

... continued in book 2 ...

2012-12-01 PM

Topics -
 - Tier
 - Wyn
 - Vee's viewer problems continue
 - Weyr leadership
 - Usual schedule tomorrow
 - Plus La Performance show at 2:30

   Tier for the full sims hasn't been paid yet, as far as Vee knows; she and Wyn haven't been able to coordinate. We've had offers of help from several people, so tier WILL be covered one way or another. Vee or Wyn will post a Group Notice and probably post something on the Web site.
   Wyn is sleeping a lot.
   Varian is still having viewer problems - constant immediate logoffs with one viewer, for one account, on one PC! There was much scratching of heads. So we'll likely see more of Varth for a while.
   randy and Varth will handle Weyr training as soon as there are dragonpairs to train. "We have to get the Weyr up and running again. But I won't compromise on the basics - no riders with NPC dragons, or vice versa. No flying a real Fall solo."
   Tomorrow: meeting at 10, Vee's class at noon, RP at 2, dancing at 4. And randy's dance group, La Performance, premieres "Love Is..." at 2:30 at Mahoney City - Shipstone 226,137,3202 .

2012-11-25 AM

Topics -
 - Applicant interested in being a runnerbeast
 - Restarting the Weyr
 - Turnover gather?

I received an application this morning from a player who'd like to be a runnerbeast. This isn't the first time someone's wanted a non-speaking part, but so far only one has stayed around. We'll see what happens this time.
   Discussed the duties of Weyr administration: (1) Training the pairs in flying, RP, and Fall; (2) Providing RP and general reasons to spend time in the Weyr; (3a) Teaching dragon players how to think like a dragon, (3b) dragon maintenance like modding, fixing the flamer, or just getting the hide looking right. Need people to be active in all those roles. Also need dragons and riders!
   Discussed having a Turnover gather. Sunday before RL New Year's seems like a good time.
   RP class at noon SLT, RP at 2, dance/social at 4 as usual.

2012-11-24 PM

Topics -
 - Welcomed Elysa, our newest member
 - Tier
 - Wyn's health is improving

Elysa Swansong attended her first meeting.
   Before the meeting officially started we talked about scripting chairs and lag, then about raising money for tier on Shaula and Kuma.
   The tier fund was at L$14,904 (around US$60) at the time of the meeting. We need about L$105,000 by 11/28 though LL gives seven days' grace.
   Vee reported that Wyn's medical people are pleased with her progress.
   We discussed recruiting and advertising and getting the Weyr functioning and getting listed in Search, and contacting non-SL Pern groups on the Web, as usual.
   Tomorrow: usual schedule - meeting at 10, Vee's RP class at 12 (at NCI), our RP at 2, probable OOC dancing / social hour at 4.

2012-11-18 AM

Topics -
 - Vee's advertised Wednesday celebration in Medi-Fantasy Events and will get it listed in SL Events
 - Nothing more to say.

2012-11-17 PM

Topics -
 - Homestead tier was paid on schedule
 - is working again
 - Discussed the fundraising ball
 - First anniversary of Anne McCaffrey's death is Wednesday - celebrations of her life at 2 PM and 7 PM.

      Next goal is to pay the tier for the full sims, due at the end of the month. The homestead tier pretty well emptied the tier fund, and we have less than two weeks to raise US$390.
   Discussed what went well at the ball and what could've gone better. The absence of the Fairports was because of a communication problem. There were a few problems with the auction, but all were worked out in a few days.
   We'll have parties Wednesday to celebrate Anne's life: 2 PM and 7 PM in the Weyr bowl. Possible activities include inviting people to tell what their favorite McCaffrey stories are and/or what was the first book or story they read. This will not be a recruiting or fundraising event, but a celebration of Anne's life. Please publicize it to any RP groups you belong to, especially to dragons of any kind. As you remember from last year, the Weyr bowl has plenty of room for them!

2012-11-11 AM

Topics - the Masquerade Ball

Any teleport to Shaula today will put you in front of the ballroom platform, about 600 meters up. If you need to get to the Weyr, go to Kuma and walk or fly over to Shaula.

The ballroom is ready and most of the auction items are out - probably all, by the time you read this.

The Fairports will be DJ'ing at 2 PM today; Gelgisith will be shooting fireworks at 3:30.

The silent auction is available now, in the first floor of the castle. Touch the item(s) you want to bid on. You'll get a menu offering 'get a notecard,' 'see the bid history,' and 'bid.' At the end of the event, the vending prims will be picked up and  the high bidders will be given the objects they bought.

All species are welcome, very OOC , any garb that fits a fantasy or medieval theme. As this is a masquerade, free masks are available at the ballroom door.

The ballroom is VERY impressive! Dragons and such folk will have plenty of headroom. And decorations include Northern Lights, moonbeams, and see if you can spot the will-o'-the-wisp.

2012-11-10 PM

Topics -
 - Wyn's doing better
 - Vee hopes to have more free time next week
 - Tier fund is almost L$41k, need $65k by the 15th
 - Ludo may miss the dance
 - Plans for the ball
 - Silent auction is open NOW, items are in the ballroom, more coming
   Wyn's doing better. Holding conversations and building. Talking (or typing) to her is good for her. That's not a licence to IM her about every little thing, but please don't avoid talking to her.
   Vee is settling into her new job, hopes to have free time next week.
   We have L$40,908 for tier; need to have about L$65,000 by the 15th.
   Ludo's prepping for a medical checkup and might miss the masquerade ball.
   We'll have a silent auction only, setting up a live one takes too much time. Items are being put on display in the ballroom (Shaula 147, 160, 603) and bids can be placed ANY TIME starting before this meeting. Not everything was put out at the time of this meeting.
   We'd planned to offer dragon rides but haven't seen any dragons but Ortath in weeks.
   Talked about when to ask Gel to do the fireworks show, vs. when the Fairports will be DJ'ing. As Gel is European we don't want to have his show too late in the SL afternoon. To be decided.
   In SL Search, the ball is in the Nightlife/Entertainment category and showed up... except that 11/11 was labelled "Today" for some cybernetic reason.

2012-11-04 AM

Topics -
 - Wyn is back
 - Fundraising
   Wyn attended the meeting.
   Discussed the fundraising dance. Cyn has gotten it into Events by replacing "Pern" in the text with "Anne McCaffrey's dragon world."
 - John's advertising poster is available for L$0 in the Council  Chamber. Look for places to post it.
 - Ludo's donating her Dragon Tower build and a dance floor in two sizes for the auction.
 - We could try a live auction during the ball (need auctioneers); maybe a silent auction, though that would have to run for several weeks.
 - Need items to auction... have to raise a pile of money.

2012-11-03 PM

Topics -
 - Vee has a job, Wyn's recovering
 - Tiers for full sims were paid on time
 - Rodney survived the Frankenstorm
 - We need to raise around L$40k by mid-month
 - The dance is on, 2 PM 11/11
    Wyn had a mini-stroke and is having trouble finding words - but can sing, draw, and build.
   Rodney's home even has electricity.
   We have about L$30k for the homestead tier, and need about L$67.5.
   The Fairports and Gel are ready for the Fantasy Masquerade Ball: music and fireworks, all we need are rich and generous guests.
   Vee will continue to be very much in First Life next week, the rest of us will take care of "minor" details like the dance.
   Looks as if we'll be able to have a silent auction as an additional fund raiser at the dance. We need donated items for both the auction and the fundraising skybox.
   Meeting tomorrow at 10 AM as usual, then Vee's RP Basics class at 12 N, RP at 2 PM, and quite likely the usual gathering on the dance floor at 4.

2012-10-28 AM

Topics -
 - Fundraising
 - RP at 2 PM as usual
   With Vee and Wyn out of touch for at least a week, we picked up the fundraising ball and ran with it (or swam or snowshoed).
   We need to raise L$62k by November 15 to cover the homestead regions.
   Ludo has built a 4-story castle and put it in the fundraising skybox; 22x22 footprint, 44 prims, specially scripted doors; price is L$500 and she'll give all of it to NoviPeaks.
   We decided that the dance will be held on Sunday 11/11 at 2 PM SLT.
   Cyn will handle the event announcement. I'll double-check with the Fairports for the music, Cyn with Gelgisith for the fireworks.
   We'll need a teleporter to take people from the Shaula bowl (the default TP landing place) to the ballroom in the sky. John found that he can change the default TP target. Cynianne has a great TP setup and will take care of the teleporter.
   The theme will be fantasy masquerade, compatible with the ballroom being in a castle. IC optional, no weapons, no sex.
   John will find the event advertising signs that he was working on.
   We'll have time to move the dance balls from the Kuma dance floor to the castle.
   We need to have donation jars, and maybe have the items from the fundraising skybox on a balcony.
   Shaula's tight on prims, though: 419 free. Folks might be willing to 'take' their furniture for the day; Firestorm, at least, has a "Restore to Last Position" function that makes that relatively safe (but you must be in the same Region when you use it because Position is relative to the Region!)
   Does anyone have a script that would run a silent auction?

2012-10-27 PM

Topics -
 - Vee starts work Monday, Wyn's husband in a couple of weeks  
 - Wyn is ill
 - Discussed the hurricane
 - Full-sim tiers due tomorrow are covered
 - NCI will demolish DreamSeeker tomorrow
 - Fundraising discussion at tomorrow's meeting
 - Fundraising dance postponed
   Vee starts work Monday, Van in a couple of weeks.
   Wyn has been ill since Wednesday.
   Rodney's in the projected path of Hurricane Sandy, Wyvern might get the edge of it.
   NCI's DreamSeeker sim will be demolished tomorrow, as funding was lost.
   Vee won't be at tomorrow's meeting, and very busy all next week. We'll probably use the meeting to check on fundraising - still need to cover our tier. Full sims, grandfathered, are US$195/month; homesteads (Etamin & Tyl) are 125. So we must raise at least US$250 by November 15.
   With all the RL... events... we decided to postpone the fundraising dance to Sunday 11/11. Yes, that's Veterans' Day in the US, Remembrance Day in the UK, but we're out of weekends.

2012-10-13 PM

Topics -
 - Money
 - Tier
 - OSgrid?
   Money is coming in, from donations and from sales in the fundraising skybox at Kuma (127, 127, 1251). Homestead tier is due on the 15th; as of the meeting we'd raised almost the US$250 that's needed for them. Full tiers (at a grandfathered rate) are due on the 28th and total US$390. So as we'll empty our coffers to pay for the homesteads, we have to raise about half again as much in the next two weeks as we did in the last two. And substantial parts of what we raised were from large donations that we can't expect to be repeated regularly.
   Homesteads can't be bought independently, they have to be owned by a person who owns a full sim. So if we lose a full sim we'll have to transfer the associated homestead to another full-sim owner. Transfers cost US$100... we couldn't afford that.
   We agreed that we must hang onto the full sims (and their grandfathered tier of US$195 instead of 295) if we possibly can.
   Folks who'd like to make substantial contributions should consider using PayPal ... ... to avoid the LL charges for changing to and from L$.
   Wyn has made donation boxes that we could put out in places beyond the Rift (where allowed, obviously). They give firelizard shoulder pets in exchange for the donation. When she gives you one it will say no-mod but that's just the script; the rest is full-perm. You should set the firelizard to "next owner no transfer."
   Ludo has reduced the price of her Hubble Telescope collages, which are for sale from her vendor in the fundraising skybox. They were much admired. All but L$1 of the price goes to the Gianfar tier fund.
   Vee and Wyn's husband are both getting lots of job interviews but no offers. In the worst case Vee and Wyn will have to sell the sims. They'll avoid it for as long as possible, and they'll try to sell only to someone who wants Gianfar to continue, and if they can keep just one sim, one of them will... but that's the worst case.
   In case we have to evacuate from SL, John's willing to provide space in OSgrid. But to actually run Gianfar there, Vee and Wyn would have to port the builds and scripts and animations. OSgrid doesn't have the Havoc physics engine so we wouldn't have Thread (barring massive work on Vee's part, maybe). Still, we could run as a sort of 3D MUSH... after all, this whole thing started on PernMushes in the text-only days.
   We discussed exporting things from SL to OSgrid. It's possible to export things that one originally created oneself. Not all of Gianfar's prims and textures were made by people who are still around, but Wyn said that "having built once, recreating most builds we have wouldn't be an impossible task." And where the creators are still active in SL, they might agree to make their works available in OSgrid.

2012-10-05 PM

Topics -
 - NCI is having money trouble too
 - NoviPeaks is collecting a significant amount of money; keep it coming!
 - Vee has job prospects
 - Kuma and Etamin are running in osgrid, our "backup site"
 - Firelizards will be available from Marketplace
 - Healers' Hall has new windows
 - Short 10 AM meeting tomorrow
 - OOC dances Saturday night?
   Dream Seeker Estates can't afford to sponsor NCI any more, because of changes LL are making to the discounts they give large estate owners. The NCI classes that DS were sponsoring are ending or getting new sponsors. Vee will be dropping her Tuesday night class for a while.
   NoviPeaks, which receives donations and fund raising revenue, now has around L$48,000 - the balance just about doubled overnight. For reference, the homestead tier comes to a bit over L$30,000 - PER MONTH! - so at least one is safe, and probably both, this round. Vee added, "So, anyway, we're *very* grateful, we really didn't expect to raise so much so quickly. But we're still asking you to keep it up, 'cos we don't know what's coming next..."
   Vee's having "final" job interviews yesterday and Monday, hopes to get an offer next week. Wyn's situation may be improving too.
   John reports that Kuma is up and running along with Etamin in osgrid. No issues that he can see. He also brought up Shaula and Tyl. So we appear to have backup for our sims. There aren't any dragon avs in osgrid yet - not much demand. It's possible to run osgrid in a PC... John's doing that for our sims. We discussed the possibility of having all the original six sims up in osgrid... even going to the nine that Soo originally intended.
   Meissa, the firelizard maker, has stopped selling inworld, but John convinced her to start selling them on Marketplace. They're the least scripted firelizards he knows of.
   John & Wyn found justification in Dragonlover's Guide for Gothic style windows, so Healers now has such.
   IC, Cyn is in Healers' recovering from the very serious injuries she suffered in last weekend's RP.
   NCI are calling a staff meeting at 11 tomorrow, to announce the closure of NCI Dream Seeker, so Vee will have to leave our morning meeting by then. They'll still have the other 3 campuses: Beach, South, and Kuula. The bigger loss is the class sponsorship money.
   We considered having a Saturday-night, utterly OOC, dance here. Depends on finding times without too many conflicting events.
   Orion's still working on the Dragon communication HUD but is sidetracked in RL.

2012-09-30 AM

Topics -
 - Notes are now on the Web site too
 - Backup sims on OSgrid
 - This afternoon's RP
 - Wyvern's sale area
   As decided recently, I'm posting my notes on the Web site too. This arose from the continuing problems of people not receiving Notices. The location is
and after logging in follow the tree structure to Forums -> Prattle in the Peaks -> General Discussion -> Colin's meeting notes
   Wyn and John are working on backup sims on OSgrid. Eventually this would be the build, minus personal items, terrain and so on.
   Accepting donations is legal within our license as a Pern fan group, so long as we make no profit & make it clear we're not Anne. (Or Soo.). Rebuilding elsewhere shouldn't be a problem from that angle either.
   The afternoon's RP will focus on one of the consequences of the resumption of Threadfall.
   The area that Wyvern's created above Kuma will be filled with merchandise gradually. Please pass the word about it, minimizing the "gloom and doom" atmosphere.
   Wyn's resetting the tip jars to give the money to our alt, NoviPeaks Resident. Rents will continue to go to Wyn & Vee for now.

2012-09-29 PM

Colin's notes:

Topics -
 - Tier on the full sims will be paid today. Nothing certain beyond that.
 - IoW gryphons have been updated
 - Tomorrow: 10 AM meeting, 2 PM roleplay, 4 PM party
   Vee and Wyn are scrambling for tier. They'll be able to cover what's due today for Shaula and Kuma. Vee may get a job offer in mid-week. Renters, please help!
   John offered free backup space in We wouldn't be able to run fully there but could have a Gianfar. Any viewer but the LL one works.
   Sky is continuing to recover from his RL fall.

Title: Re: Colin's meeting notes, this is book 2
Post by: Colin on December 02, 2012, 08:50:55 PM
(Continued in book 3)

2013-01-19 PM

 - osgrid progress
 - Rentals
 - Tier

   John reported success with building a dragon in osgrid... it's full perm if someone wants to play with flying scripts. And he has an NPC bartender.
   We discussed the rules for rentals; a formerly active member had asked about ground-level IC rental spaces. We certainly have some, especially in the Hold and Healers and Fisher/Dolphin Halls. OOC rentals are possible too; the rule is that if the door stays closed, the interior doesn't have to be IC whether the renter RPs here or not. Shaula used to be tight on prims which made rentals difficult; it's improving and could improve a lot more as the old 10x10 prims are replaced with the new larger ones.
   Homestead tiers should be paid within the grace period. Don't know about full-sim tiers yet. Pay dates and tier deadlines aren't lining up well. Vee says renters are paying up, on the whole, even if not on time.
   Standard schedule tomorrow.

2013-01-13 AM

 - Roleplay arcs & style
We discussed what RP arcs or style we could invent that might draw people back from wherever they've gone.
   What makes Gianfar different from other RP sites in SL? We don't have character "levels" except for Craft and Weyr ranks. We don't have planned scenarios with monsters and NPCs to overcome; we don't have combat except during Threadfall. We're cooperative rather than competitive. We don't have many ways to provide a sense of achievement. We don't have things that can be done only by three Apprentice Miners and a Master Smith, for example.
   We've defined some tasks for newcomers to do... see the notices around the corner from the Hold Office. I don't know how many people have done those tasks. The Harpers and Healers have Craft ranks with specific requirements for advancement; I suppose the Weyr has something comparable.  The Hold has had at least one office, Steward; it certainly needs many functions like cooks and maintenance crews but how would we come up with RP scenarios for such? How about the refugees in the lower caverns?
   Perhaps the fact that we're non-combative would be a selling point, for folks in "typical" RP groups who are tired of constant combat.
   We also have regular Threadfall now: at 12, 3, 6, and 9 AM & PM SLT. That should attract Weyrfolk and flamethrower crews... perhaps we can develop scoring systems for number of Thread burned vs. number of Threadscores received.
   Ideas? Inspirations? Suggestions? Feedback?

2013-01-12 PM

 - Turnover party went well
 - Vee's working hard and being paid
 - Tier may not be so much of a swear word this time
 - NPCs in osgrid
 - Discussion of role play, in SL Wiki
 - Standard Sunday schedule
   John has managed to get NPCs working in osgrid... bots without Pathfinding. They could be shopkeepers, greeters, guards, and so forth. He's not sure that could be ported to SL. As I understood it, the mechanism creates a clone of the person who touches the control box. Apparently you can copy the appearance notecard and give the NPC av clothes, attachments and so on. A YouTube example of what can be done with NPCs is at
We weren't sure how the osgrid functions relate to SL capabilities: is osgrid ahead of SL, or has LL donated some beta code to Opensim, or... ?
   John found a discussion of SL role playing in
... Vee noted that it makes the common mistake of confusing combat with RP.

2013-01-06 AM

 - LL offer on Amazon was shut down
 - Facebook or Google+ links?
 - Turnover celebration is set for 4 PM today
 - Ways to communicate outside SL
The offer of an SL account, hoverboard, and L$1000 (just for creating an Amazon account linked to the SL account) was dropped shortly after I published yesterday's meeting notes.
   Discussed a suggestion that we put Facebook and/or Google+ links on our Web page. There's an official Pern site on Facebook...
...which requires a Facebook account. Question was whether we want to advertise to people who know nothing about SL and Pern. Also, Facebook is hostile to accounts that are SL avatars (or otherwise using "fake" names).
   Discussed how we could communicate within the Gianfar community while not logged on to SL. We might use the Forums on our Web site, though few visit it. Vee is considering reinventing the site with blog software rather than the present bbs style, but that will take time. We do have a Blogspot, though it hasn't been used lately...

2013-01-05 PM

 - Tier for Shaula & Kuma is paid
 - Turnover Celebration 4 PM tomorrow
 - SL starter pack now available on Amazon - yes, Amazon
 - osgrid experiment continues

Tier's paid and Vee's two days into her new job.
   We've booked the Fairports for Turnover, so all 150 of us should show up at 4 PM. Well, at least 15.
   LL is now selling a starter pack on Amazon, including vehicles. This weekend the pack is free (plus L$1000) if you link your LL account with your Amazon account.
   The version of Kuma on osgrid now has a tavern like Runners' Rest. The experiment continues, stay tuned. However, the opensimulator and websites state clearly that osgrid is and will always remain an alpha release.

2012-12-30 AM

Topics -
 - osgrid

The discussion of osgrid continued from yesterday.
   How could we recruit? We might keep one sim here as a welcome area and example, with a notecard giver telling people how to connect to osgrid and find us. Soo was thinking of that, long ago. We could probably do it, if it were a full sim and we gave most of the sky over to commercial rents. But we'd essentially be recruiting twice - to Gianfar and to osgrid. And we'd have to build all the buildings over again (the terrain can be transferred), and create our avatars again, and script everything again. Wyn's been using SL as therapy, successfully, but as she finishes recovering her RL will take over.
   But osgrid is "free" or at least much less expensive than SL, and we've been having money trouble for months.
   But it's not a short-term solution, just an escape hatch if we decide we're unable to sustain Gianfar in SL.
   And of course we have the problem that people won't go there until people are there.
   Viewers that work on osgrid include Firestorm (but a different version, without Havoc physics), Singularity, and Imprudence.
   We have a version of Gianfar (Kuma and Etamin) in osgrid. There are two Gianfar-related groups, one run by Buck (who hasn't been here in a long time) and Novi Peaks, run by Wyn.

2012-12-29 PM

Topics -
 - Tier
 - Turnover celebration Jan 6
 - Continued discussing osgrid
   Tier was due yesterday and, partly because of human and feline medical expenses... partly because no rent money has been paid by Shaula renters... we're very short. Tier for Shaula & Kuma is US$390 and we have less than $90. Some off-stage muttering is going on, Gianfar may not go off its fiscal cliff.
   We're still planning Turnover for Sunday, Jan 6; we'll see whether the Fairports would DJ for us.
   The question of moving from SL to osgrid came up again. There'd be no LL tier to pay, but we wouldn't be able to just pick up the island and move it there. And osgrid doesn't yet support the Havoc physics engine so Vee would have to start programming the dragons all over again. But there'd be no LL tier to pay.
   Stay tuned...

2012-12-23 AM

Topics -
 - New Fisher/Dolphin Hall
 - Tier
 - Guide system
 - Leader for Harper RP
 - No RP class at NCI today
 - The mall will move upward next year
 - Kuma terraforming
 - Turnover celebration
   Right after yesterday's meeting, several of us inspected the new Hall and applauded Wyn's work. The Hall has plenty of room; some of the former Healers' Hall rooms will be available  for other use - crafts, rentals, and so forth. There's a breakwater forming a harbor, and shelter for the fishing boats under the Hall.
   Tier for the homesteads was paid; now we can prepare to pay tier for the full sims.
   Vee has the new guide (formerly mentor) system almost ready, expects to show it off next week. The who's-online feature maps neatly into a who's-available-for-RP system.
   Ludo has been unable to participate in RP for several months (physical problems including an aching arm). She proposed to encourage other people to lead Harper RP whether they are harpers or not. She added that "harper RP is really easy to lead if you don't have a sore arm/wrist/shoulder." She's available weekdays, and maybe occasional Saturdays or Sundays, before noon SLT. We'll discuss this more after the holidays, when more people are around.
   Vee will probably cancel her NCI RP class today... not likely to be many folk about.
   Wyn plans to rearrange the Novi Peaks Mall (high above Kuma) and move it into a building, next year. We might move the fund-raising area into a section of the mall.
   Wyn is also considering terraforming Kuma - doing it on OSgrid first, where John has provided space for us.
   Sunday, January 6, looks like a good time for the Turnover celebration (and celebrating a First Life event).
   RP at 2, dancing at 4 as usual.

2012-12-16 AM

Topics -
 - Phoenix status
 - Scheduled falls are running; yes, Thread does bounce
    Support for the Phoenix viewer will stop at the end of this month. LL plans to release "server side avatar baking" next year, which will make all unmodified viewers unable to see avatars. Firestorm, Singularity, and Cool VL, at least, will be updated. Reference:
   Shanna reported that we'll also get mesh clothes that adjust to avatar shape!
   There were two automatic Threadfalls last night, so the new code has met reality and survived. Thread was noticed bouncing on the mesh mountains (and terrain and prims). Vee said, "When Thread 'hits', it takes half a second to go from a physical object to a static object, and the physics engine - which is now partly in the viewer - can make it bounce. Once it's static, Thread jumps to the position it hit in and changes its shape. [The code is] only a few lines: Get current, position, adjust for terrain height if it's a ground hit, change state, sleep half a second, move to position & change shape. But I don't have any control over 'bounciness' that I know of."

2012-12-15 PM

Topics -
  - Future of Phoenix viewer limited
  - Scheduled Threadfall is enabled
  - Kuma's tier was paid late but we seem to be OK
  - "Mentor online" system almost ready
  - Web site updates in the works
  - Usual schedule tomorrow

The Phoenix/Firestorm group were holding a meeting at the same time as ours. John reported they're going to stop maintenance on Phoenix, and it will break in a couple of months. Firestorm will continue to be updated, of course. Other third-party viewers including Singularity and Coolviewer will presumably still be maintained by their support groups.
   Scheduled Threadfall is ready to occur every  three hours as described in last weekend's meetings. It hasn't been triggered yet but probably will be, by the RP group tomorrow.
   Kuma's tier wasn't paid because of a PayPal problem. Wyn discovered that last night and paid the tier right away. LL hadn't notified us that they hadn't received the payment, so we're *probably* OK.
   However, that mixup means we're not sure that we have enough money to cover the homestead tier, which is due today. If you can spare a few L$ or US$ to keep the place running, that'd be much appreciated!
   Vee's almost ready to have a "mentor online" system ready. "It'll have a simple interface - an object which can be either a hud or inworld, or an attachment if you like. You just tell it when you want to be available, and a script in Gianfar will keep track of your online status." Mentors, or whatever we decide to call folks who've volunteered to help new members, would register (procedure TBD) with the system.
   Vee and John will be working on the Web pages: moving all the Craft descriptions online (after updating them) with the active ones getting more space than the inactive.
   Regular schedule tomorrow: 10 AM meeting, 12 N Vee's RP class, 2 PM RP, around 3:30 PM Threadfall reaches Kuma, 4 PM dancing for the survivors.

2012-12-08 PM

Topics -
 - Full-sim tier has been paid
 - Recruiting
 - Gianfar dragons
 - Regular Threadfall
 - Wyn's working on the Hold
Last minute generosity covered the tier with some L$ and US$ left for a start on the homestead tier that's due a week from today.
   Discussed how to finish the long awaited "official" Gianfar dragons. The avs were finished months ago but there's been considerable trouble getting the animations. Both the dragon builder and the animation designer have been absent from SL for long periods. Ortath will see about getting one of the non-animated new dragons for display in the Weyr bowl, as several were some time ago. Skylarian is helping us try to contact the animation designer.
   I've joined the "Looking for RP" group, where groups can post Notices inviting people. I've posted one Notice so far, received several. We have an applicant whom I've had trouble contacting because his IMs were capped; I'll keep trying. Invitations, like Notices, seem to be delivered occasionally.
   We'd like to have a Fall during the Turnover celebration, but can't do that with a Wing consisting of randy and Varth. Need to attract our dragons and riders. So we picked up the idea of scheduled Falls that we'd considered several months ago, with the goal that dragon/rider pairs could know that they could fly Falls at certain times (and the Hold and Hall folk could RP then too). Vee will set a schedule - for example, every three hours if there are people in the RP zones - and we'll tweak it till it attracts people. Running all the time should attract folk from all time zones.
   Wyn has most of the floating rocks out of Kuma's sky, and is working on the Hold entrance - adding doors along the stairway that will eventually open into the lower levels of the Hold. That will give us more room for minor Crafts, rentals, sheltering refugees, and so forth.
   Usual schedule tomorrow: meeting at 10 AM SLT, Vee's NCI RP class at noon, RP at 2 PM (possible Threadfall at 3), dancing at 4.

2012-12-02 AM

Topics -
 - Tier
 - Membership: recruiting, retaining  
 - Tiny carolers?
   We're short US$264 for the tier that was due last Wednesday. There's a short list of folks who have offered to cover the difference. Best, at this late date, to send via PayPal; Wyn's account there is her Email address,
   Talked at length about how SL RP groups are losing members - it's not just us - and about what's happened to former Gianfar members. RL pressure, other RP groups, leaving SL permanently or temporarily, etc.
   Talked about how to recruit people. Talked about other RP groups. One problem may be that we're "not medieval enough" - i.e., not fantasy - perhaps unique in being low-tech SF with no PvP combat and magic spells. We fit best with "medi-fantasy" groups but could also try to advertise in SF groups. Possible groups include Roleplay Gateway and SL Roleplayers.
   Talked about retaining people, especially in the Weyr which is so empty. How do we find activities for unmatched riders & dragons? ... Might reinstate the "mentor" program. John and I, and likely others, could guide new folks. ... Ludo will do Harper classes by appointment, if there are at least two students who can attend at the same time - this Wednesday at 11 SLT is likely.
   Talked about how to reach out to SL folks who aren't in RP groups, rather than having groups cannibalize one another. How can we bring potential roleplaying folks into SL?
   John suggested having dances in the evening, up in the market area, completely OOC - rather like a club. Also suggested a sim-wide hunt (I remember that we were going to do that once). Those ideas suffered the same fate.
   It'd be helpful to have someone around when people drop in, but we haven't enough people to provide full time coverage - and those we have are mostly very busy elsewhere... "I'm at 42/42 groups, and not one I can leave."  
   "So, (a) advertise; (b) have something to do while we're here/find a way to get us here when we have visitors; (c) (re)build weyr membership."
   Wyn asked if we'd like the tiny carolers to perform this month. The question got lost in the discussion of other RP groups so I'm making a point of recording it here.

Title: Re: Colin's meeting notes, this is book 3
Post by: Colin on January 20, 2013, 07:57:26 PM
(Continued in book 4)

2013-03-24 AM

 - Pern Day

   John has sent umpteen dozen notecards announcing Pern Day, and Wyn has created a poster. She'll be adding Pern Day to the NCI adnodes this week, and see about getting it in Search/Events..I'll post an announcement to "Looking for Roleplay."
   We'll have sales booths and a recruiting booth with a hide dropper.
   We're planning Threadfalls both in the usual 3pm time slot (about 3:20 in Kuma) and during the dancing.

2013-03-23 PM

 - Thread may fall off schedule for a while
 - Pern Day
 - Ancient badmouthing of Gianfar in a Pern mush
 - Weeknight activity, anyone?

Vee may be very busy in RL next week.

There may be a bug in the Thread timers, causing it not to fall when it should (just as in the books). Vee's working on it.

Pern Day: Monday, April 1 - Anne's birthday.
 - Gather from 2 till 4 SLT (with "bardic stuff" and firelizard hatching possible, Threadfall likely).
 - Dancing from 4 till at least 6 (with the Fairports as DJs and Pern-trivia hosts) (Threadfall possible).
 - How do we get the news out, with Notices so unreliably delivered and seldom read? Individual notecards to everyone in GPoP who'd logged on to SL in the past N weeks? We wrote an announcement on the spot and John's willing to send it. Also, an announcement in SL Events? An announcement from Isle of Wyrms? Wyn's working on a poster.

Back in 2008 someone posted a long unjustified attack on Gianfar in one of the Pern MUSHes. It still shows up sometimes, though most Pern sites deleted it quickly. That might be part of the reason that we don't get many people from the text-only Pern groups. Too bad they don't come see for themselves.

John hears complaints that nothing happens here during the week. All it takes for something to happen is for a couple of people to show up and start.

Usual schedule for Easter Sunday, using some RP time to set up the Gather booths.

2013-03-17 AM

 - Pern Day

For Pern Day, what to do when?
 - Ludo's willing to do some entertaining between 2:00 and 4:00 when the dancing starts. She hopes to run a bardic circle; if you'd like to participate, bring something you'd like to read or perform.
 - Perhaps we'll have a firelizard hatching.
 - Wyn will have the Gather stuff out.
 - We'll probably give guests a notecard explaining that a Threadfall might occur, and to get under cover.
 - We *might* have Thread destroy a Gather booth; would take some building and some scripting.
 - As many people don't get Notices, how can we tell out members about Pern Day? Maybe send a notecard to everyone who's been online in the past N days? Around 80 of our members have logged on to SL in the past week or so.

2013-03-16 PM

 - Homestead tier paid
 - Thuban returning
 - Wyn reworking the mall
 - Vee improving Fall scores
 - Our "Hi, visitor" message
 - Pern Day

Thuban, one of our 'lost' sims from long ago, is coming back. It was south of Shaula. Sylvia, who owned Al-Rami (an island south of Kuma) is letting us use it with her still owning it but Wyn as estate manager. So we'll be almost as large as we were five years ago.

Wyn will pay the tier at Thuban's grandfathered homestead rate, so donations are still appreciated.

Wyn's planning to rework Novi Peaks Mall. We might even try revealing its existence (as in advertising) and putting a TP to it in the Dome.

Vee's reworking the way Falls are logged; hopefully it'll be easier to get the Fall totals.

Talked about the message that our greeter gadgets send to non-members who show up on the island. It's very welcoming and points to the website and the Welcome Area.

Discussed Pern Day (Monday, April 1 - Anne's birthday - our major Gather and  dance celebration). Wyn will set out the gather stuff on Sunday so there is extra setup time available. We'll have the Fairports as DJs from 4 till 6 PM SLT, during which time there will probably be a totally unexpected fall, surprising everybody.

2013-03-10 AM

 - Pern Day planning

Pern Day is set for 4 PM SLT on Monday, April 1 - on the dance floor - with the Fairports as DJs. Some of Ludo's games will be moved from the Rest to a booth, leaving some in the Rest to catch visitors' attention. We'll have some IC merchandise for sale, such as Ludo's pouches and (non-playing) lutes (to which music and scripts might be added by the buyer). Other ideas welcome!

2013-03-09 PM

 - Pern Day is almost upon us
 - Tier for the 15th will be covered
April 1 = Anne's birthday = Pern Day, our annual celebration. It's during Easter break for some schools, which could be good or bad for attendance. We could have a Threadfall. We'll likely have the Fairports as DJs, so quickly memorize all Pern books in prep for their trivia contests! And we'll hold it in Gianfar. April 1 is a Monday, but we can't move her birthday. 4 PM SLT seems like a time that's not much too early for the West Coast and not much too late for Europe.

We cut the meeting short because DST starts tomorrow, making this a short night.

2013-03-03 AM

 - HUDs
 - Flamethrowers

The HUDs are staunchly resisting being debugged.
    I commented that the flamethrowers don't aim properly when the user has an AO active. That's fixable, some day.

2013-03-02 PM

 - Demo dragons
 - Full-sim tier has been paid
 - HUDs tomorrow?

John displayed a demo wyvern and dragon from [Manticore]. Very nicely done, mesh, good animation.
    Full-sim tier was paid Friday, so we're in great shape.
    Vee's IMs have been sent to her Email when she was offline (like most folks') and recently were being automatically filed with group notices. And she wasn't receiving them inworld. She just discovered them.
    The HUDs might be ready for a demo tomorrow.

2013-02-24 AM

 - Greeters are updated
 - Sci-Fi Con is June 27 to July 1
 - Other upcoming events
 - Recruiting!

Vee updated the greeters last night. All four sims now use the same greeter scripts (with minor variations).

Second Life Science Fiction Convention 5 website is
It's a benefit for, and the sims are hosted by, the American Cancer Society.

No news about SL10B. IoW Winter festival is going on now; we missed preparing for it because of the problems with tier. Their Spring or Summer festivals will come along.

To put in a good showing at all those events we need members, including trained dragons and riders... nothing attracts attention like a "real" fire-breathing dragon! So watch for chances to mention us to people who might be interested, being careful not to be seen as poaching on other RP groups' members.

2013-02-23 PM

 - Tier: good news
 - Greeter system being improved
 - News about the Sci-Fi con
 - No news about SL10B
 - NC about walking from Dome to meetings

Vee believes tier's covered for this month.
   She's updating the greeter system: it'll stop spamming her so much, it'll support the HUD system when that's released, and all four sims will be using the same greeter system. And, if it works, anyone not registered with the database but wearing a group tag will be asked if they want to register. Instead of having to go find the greeters.
   We also have a database table that remembers recent visitors, so that a non-member gets tapped on the shoulder by the greeters only once a day.
   Vee attended a meeting about the Sci-Fi con this summer (end of June?), in which we'll have a booth. This year is an anniversary for Dr Who, DS9, and Babylon 5.. Somehow the con is going to try covering that. And there'll be all sorts of sims & groups present, but the build around them will have aspects from all 3 shows. There'll also be space for groups to have demos... Vee instantly thought of Threadfall. The demo area might be about a quarter sim, about the size of the practice Fall zone on Tyl. So, no pressure, but a fighting wing ready by June would be awesome... and we have flamethrower givers for the ground crew.
   No news yet about plans for SL10B... maybe in May.
   Yesterday I wrote a Notecard showing how to walk from the Rift Dome to the Council Chamber, and pointing out places of interest along the way. Could be useful to new folks.


 - Improving looks of Weyr and Hold

Talked generally about making the old builds look better... spaces less rectangular, walls less smooth, textures more varied, generally more realistic.

2013-02-16 PM

 - Homestead tier got paid on schedule
 - Ideas to improve the Shaula & Kuma builds
 - Different GPoP titles?
 - Flamethrowers are a success
 - Usual Sunday schedule

Best news of the week, that first topic!
   Vee's been thinking about ways to make the builds more up to date... like replacing the ancient 10x10 prims. As she hasn't discussed this with Wyn, I'm giving no details.
   Discussed separating the GPoP list into the people who are around all the time (or would be if they could) and those who are seldom seen (at the moment). Didn't reach any conclusions.
   John reported that the new flamethrowers interested a lot of people.

2013-02-10 AM

 - Booth for Sci-Fi Con
 - Re-recruiting inactive members

Discussion brushed across planning a booth for the con next summer. We'll probably have around 30x30 meters; Wyn will build something but we need to decide what. We'll probably include a notecard giver for RP sites that aren't exhibiting.
   Talked about contacting people who've been members for years but haven't been seen in years. What would draw them back? Perhaps some kind of group event? Perhaps a quest of some sort, that might be aided by the guest HUD (like a GPS navigation system?) that Vee's developing.

2013-02-09 PM

 - No news about Soo except the Mysterious Boxes
 - Next tier payment is covered
 - RPC ad is renewed
 - Might be able to get another homestead sim
 - Seem to have lost access to the osgrid that John was using
 - Temp-rez flamethrowers
 - Sunday will run as usual

Our founder, Soo Novi, who hasn't been seen in a LONG time, has put "She's back from between" boxes in Shaula and Kuma. That's all we know at this point.
   Safe to say the next tier payment is covered (donations still welcome, of course).
   Vee has renewed our ad at the Role Play Center.
   We could again get a booth at the annual SL Sci-Fi con this summer. Basic booth is free, last year we sponsored one & got extra advertising.
   Sylvia, who owned Alrami (a homestead island sim south of Kuma), apparently might let us use it.
   The owner of the osgrid on which John was building parts of Gianfar seems to have become hostile to "children" (including young-looking adults) and maybe to furries - maybe to SL - so John's gone elsewhere.
   Temp-rez flamethrowers are available on the Runners' Rest porch.
   Usual Sunday schedule, with the chance to try the new flamethrowers on Thread.

2013-02-03 AM

 - Acting Weyrleader
 - Demo HUD
 - Songs about our history
 - Backup storage
 - Free basic clothes in the Welcome Center

   Clarification of yesterday's notes: M'thos is Acting Weyrleader.
   Vee is still working on the demo HUDs.
   Ludo is still looking for songs that we have, and that we need, about Gianfar's history. Each entry in the contest is to be a song (poem, with or without tune) and with each entry the IC source is listed. The eventual goal is to have an IC history of Gianfar in song, that we can use to teach newcomers and entertain ourselves.
   That morphed into a discussion of how to save data, as SL is tending to swallow notecards. Dropbox, Google Drive, Mozy, Evernote, and Springpad got about one 'vote' each.  
   There's a box of free basic clothing in the Welcome Center: a purple cube under the table. It would be helpful to collect a list of good places to get clothes suitable for us. Shanna suggested KnickKnack Mainstore - Medieval, and Dysfunctional Designs.

2013-02-02 PM

 - Tiers are paid
 - HUD scripts are coming along
 - Dancing dragons needed
 - New Weyrleader/dragon

   Full-sim tiers have been paid and there shouldn't be problems with the Homestead tiers in mid-month.  
   Vee may have a demo of the HUD guiding scripts ready soon.
   Saffia, from the Isles, is making a film and wants dancing dragons. They have the dances. Interested dragons should go to the Limbo region at 2 PM SLT; our contact is Skylarian Isachenko. The 24-hour dance will support "One Billion Rising in Second Life," which is part of a global "One Billion Rising" campaign to stop violence against women and girls.
   Had a long discussion of getting the Weyr reactivated. The new Weyrleader is John's alt Methos Menatep (M'thos), rider of bronze Ortath. Backstories being developed.

2013-01-27 AM

 - More on the route-finding HUD
 - Songs of Gianfar history
 - RP in Skype or the like?
 - Recruiting

   Vee has played with several variations of the route-finding & questing code, and thinks she's found something she likes which doesn't require extra prims or scripts outside the HUD. She can definitely arrange for visitors to be given challenges or questions to answer as they travel, too, in a way that's easy to maintain - because it'll be on the website.
   LONG term project: pathfinding and tunnelsnakes that would follow the unlucky explorer. Not even on the agenda, yet.
   Ludo will publish a list of what songs of Gianfar history she knows we have, and what she thinks we don't have, but she'd love to get suggestions from you activists about what else we don't have. For example, we have two songs about the double cross, but none IC about the great quake or great storm. Then she'll come up with rules, and either send them to the active members or pass them through Vee before announcing them.
   Skylarian brought in a question from a non-Gianfar friend: have we considered doing RP over Skype or similar connections? General reaction was that voice or text RP is possible but wouldn't be suitable for the immersive RP that we do.
   Once the HUDs are in place (and maybe flamethrower givers), Vee would like to blitz all the recruiting groups & locations we can hit. We could also finish setting up the mentor system that we discussed once: volunteers to help new folks merge into our RP, and a board in the Welcome Area showing what mentors are online. Possibly a box where the curious could drop questions; possibly notes about which mentors are in which activities, so that Harper questions could go to a Harper mentor and so forth.

2013-01-26 PM

 - Tiers paid
 - Navigation HUD for new folk
 - "Do not open until" script for gifts
 - Songs of Gianfar history
 - Standard schedule tomorrow

   Poseballs in the Council Chamber were still being strange.  
   Homestead tiers were paid, and looks as if the full-sim tiers will be paid on time.
   Vee has made the HUD that she thought about last week, that could guide people to places of interest. At the moment all it does is say how far it is from the Queen's Weyr, but the design's confirmed. And it detaches and deletes itself when the wearer leaves. ("Temp attach")
   Speculation ensued. The concept might extend to riding straps... a dragon/rider pair effectively having their own set of straps stored in the Weyr, ready for use but not needing to be stored in Inventory. The strap giver would create the straps at the push of a button, having remembered the specs for a dragon/rider pair. The straps would poof when removed.
   Orion's created a script that will hide gifts and release them at a certain time. Implements the "Do not open until Christmas" paper tags. And the recipient can't see what the gift is until The Time comes.
   Ludo realized she could almost teach a history of Gianfar, from all the songs she has. Perhaps we could have a Harper-sponsored quest to collect historical songs. They'd have to fit our story line, of course, and be approved by Vee (and absolutely not come within a dragon length of Anne's copyrights!).
   Standard schedule tomorrow.

2013-01-20 AM

 - Invisible poseballs
 - Recruiting, advertising
 - Tasks for newcomers
 - Signs marking rooms
 - Maps
 - Local dialects
 - HUDs and quests

   The poseballs in the Council Chamber have been rezzing very slowly lately, and not responding to Highlight Transparent for some folks. It happens in different viewers; walls and floors can also be invisible. Leaving a room and returning - forcing the viewer to redraw the scene - generally makes things appear. So did changing bodies, for Dezy.
   We discussed advertising (I've been sending group notices to Looking For RP without responses, but at least the folks in that group know we're here.
   We discussed creating tasks for newcomers to help them learn the terrain. The board next to the Hold Office mentions message carrying... "Take this to the MasterSmith." That would be a good assignment, and likely good for some "old members" too. (Do you know where the MasterSmith's office is? The Beastmaster's? The Master Weaver's?)
   That suggested that we might want to mark rooms with signs, as is done in Harper Hall and the Hold Office. That would be IC, as visitors wouldn't be expected to know where things are.
   And it would be good to have maps of the island, but they'd have to be easy to change. There are a few obsolete ones around. That would need someone who's good with graphics. It would also be good to have detailed maps of the Hold and the various Halls, but that would be tricky because of the many level changes.
   (Have you noticed all the gems in the mines on Tyl? One could use them for landmarks, and perhaps be able to find one's way out.)
   Talking about signs got us into talking about the level of literacy on Pern (probably most people can read or write at some level) and somehow got into the question of dialects. In a culture where most people can't travel for, but where the Harpers are trying to preserve the language, we can assume that there are regional accents. Vee remembers a mention of them in Dragondrums, especially in reference to Nabol.
   In conjunction with people finding their way around, Vee speculated about HUDs that could give info, or directions - at least, distance & direction of a 'target' to be reached. That's a project to be worked on some day.
   We could hold quests, as we were considering a year or so ago, where people had to go to place A to get a clue to place B and so forth, finally reaching the end and getting a prize. If we had the HUDs, we could have them keep score.

Title: Re: Colin's meeting notes (book 4)
Post by: Colin on March 31, 2013, 06:33:03 PM
(Continued in book 5)


 - K'tina is now riding Ortath
 - More publicity
 - New vineyard in Tyl
 - Mesh problems mostly resolved
 - Recruiting
John announced that K'tina is now riding Ortath and M'thos will slip into the background.
   But we need riders... have dragons flying holding patterns waiting.
   But Dramyn has a friend who's active in many RP groups and sims, and who's offered to spread word of our search for riders to his groups.
   But for that we need a good NC handout, aimed toward riders. Vee had one and gave it out.
   Could we come up with gifts to put in freebie sites? Need things that are uniquely 'us,' but need to avoid copyright infringements. Can't call something a Pern whatever (Anne's estate owns that word) or a Gianfar something (Soo Novi owns that one).
   Wyn reported that we have a new vineyard, and the mesh problems on Kuma's north shore are mostly resolved - one can get into the caverns now.
   We have idle dragons, what can we give them to do? Herdbeast or wherry avatars for them to chase? (Ludo made a wherry av.) Try planned early evening RP again? Runnerbeast races? The practice Threadfall areas? Everyone bring in a friend?
   We need things for both players and visitors to do.
   But we did have 14 people at the meeting, a healthier number than we've had till recently.
   Might start the RP in Shaula today... which means Fall would start at 3:00 rather than 3:20.


 - Rodney's back
 - Homestead tier is paid
 - No decision on use of IoW sim
 - Advertising

 Rodney's recovering from whatever happened, but needs to rest.
   We've picked up payments for a sim in Isle of Wyrms (see notes of 2013-07-07) but haven't done anything with it yet. Vee & Wyn need to talk with the owner of record.
   Nothing yet about the future of Thuban.  
   Cyne noticed that there's nothing about Pern in the RP area of the SL forums... except a query from five months ago asking if there was any Pern RP in SL. He's also got Notice-posting authority in a group for 1700-era style sites, which we more or less fit, so we may get some recruits from there.
   Discussed the Web-site registration that hasn't been allowed for years. It was stopped because of the number of spammers and the like. Vee is thinking she might open a Google Docs spreadsheet & form for website applicants.


 - Thuban terrain still pending
 - Still working on mesh in Kuma
 - Rodney's doing OK
 - Homestead tiers OK
 - Wingleader L'ron seeking riders

Varian is still hoping to get the raw file for Thuban from Soo.
   Wyn needs to get with the mesh maker to solve the inaccessibility problem in Kuma's north shore east of the river - tunnel mouths that can't be entered.
   Rodney's scheduled to be released from the hospital next week.
   Homestead tiers are due on the 15th, and they're covered. And Thuban is paid.
   Where have all the riders gone? L'ron has dragons who've been waiting for years for a rider. We need to actively recruit! Not just persuade former riders to take another look at us, but seek out new folks. Perhaps have Gathers with demo flights. Need an ad campaign; we have some money for that.
   We'll post a new Notice in the "Looking for RP" group.
   I'll collect names of places that will allow us to advertise our site. Like RP places, clothing shops, freebie places, etc. We can pay some rent for ad space.
   Invite people here to see a Threadfall, and ride one of our dragons if they're willing. L'ron and Vee will work on Demo Days and Meet-and-Greets.


 - Demo dragons?
 - Tier's paid

The Weyrleader suggested having 'demo' days to show prospective riders the training grounds, and a 'demo' dragon that prospective dragons could fly. Sounded very interesting and maybe possible.


 - Full-sim tier's being paid
 - Remote access to meetings?
 - Construction status
 - Copyrights

We discussed ways to let people attend meetings from elsewhere. Didn't come up with anything easy. A "Gianfar Meeting Chat" Group would work but would cost a Group slot that many of us can't spare. GPoP Chat would hit 170 people, many of whom are presumably not very interested  - and we don't want to give them a reason to block that Chat line. Vee was once working on a HUD for remote meetings.
   Recruiting came up as usual. John's been contacting folks. Mesh dragons and live automated Threadfall are rousing interest. Sounds like we have a lot of late night SL time folks; would be good to help them get something going here in the hours when SL's quiet.
   Wyn's continuing to work on Novi Peaks Mall.
   She's hitting some problems with the mesh rebuilding of Kuma near the new road tunnel.
   Vee's working on a 'crawl' animation for use in small tunnels.
   We discussed copyrights and movie studios again. Vee said we've let The Dragonriders of Pern, Ltd. know about our existence several times, so they can't use the 'we only just found out' line. But if things change - if a movie does actually get made, for instance - we may have to review. Soo had a copyright lawyer look at what we do when she was protecting the Gianfar name, so we should be safe. She was very careful to make sure we stay within the fan rules, and we have added the "not associated..." at the bottom of our ads. And Todd's said he wants to protect the fan RP's.


 - Novi Peaks Mall being rebuilt
 - Weyr leadership forming
 - Announcements from a Firefly group

Wyn has moved an enclosed mall building onto the Novi Peaks Mall floor and is arranging all the merchandise into it. Looks as if it'll be impressive.
   Acting Weyrleader M'thos is planning to step down in favor of L'ron and Bronze Cyneth. They'll be contacting everyone whom they know have expressed an interest in being rider or dragon. There will be a Dragonmeet. The possibility of getting real, working Gianfar dragons will be investigated again.
   Dezy is in a Firefly group that sometimes manage to get a great band, but not a crowd. He asked about announcing the events to Gianfar and got immediate approval.


 - Grendel's dragons
 - Tier paid
 - Better Threadfall?
 - Recruiting
 - Weyr is coming back!

Grendel's is advertising new dragon avatars with the possibility of having some Pernese characteristics.
   Tier has been paid for the Homestead sims (Tyl, Etamin, and Thuban).
   Vee's been playing with the Thread clumping algorithms... may have Fall looking more like the books. It might be ready for a test this afternoon.
   Discussed recruiting techniques like wearing one's Gianfar tag when shopping. Reminisced about the old days when we had eight dragon/rider pairs. Maybe we can contact inactive dragons and riders for a "meet and greet" party.
   Weyrfolk discussed advertising at length... the Weyr is awakening.


 - Laron has returned  
 - Cyneth is returning
 - Tier for Thuban is paid
 - We'll co-own Lethe

  The meeting table is filling up again, L'ron is back after a long time away. One more Rider in the Weyr!
  And Cyneth will be back soon. One more dragon in the Weyr!
  Lokiande is interested in becoming a Gianfar dragon... bet we can find a place for her!
  Lethe is an IoW sim that needed help; the owner needs only space & prims for her store, and it's grandfathered hence affordable. Plans are developing, stay tuned.


 - Welcoming Meynara
 - SL10B & SLSFC
 - Tier's been paid for the Full sims
 - Attracting people

Meynara Debbel is our newest member; she found us at SLSFC last weekend and attended the meeting. She'll be an apprentice Harper, if the harper masters approve of course.
   Skimmed over the shows, for which we had displays but not much staff or notecard givers.
   Discussed ways to draw people. Vee could put something in the Welcome Area saying that Threadfall would start [around X o'clock] if at least two members were in Shaula or Kuma and below 1000 meters. That might get visitors to come back to see the chaos. Anyone who's here, anytime, can invite other folk to RP, of course.


 - No meeting today
 - SL10B build is up
 - Kuma "landscaping" continues
 - RP storyline being discussed

SL10B opens today. The LM that Vee sent recently works, and the Gianfar site is reported to be looking good.
   Lots of construction work is going on, on the north side of Kuma.
   Had a discussion in the afternoon about an RP idea. Something might come of it.


 - Rory's poems on the Web
 - Songs on scrolls in Wordmaster's office
 - Performance classes
 - Fishing

Rory Kit has posted two poems  (more coming) on

In the Harper Wordmaster's office are scrolls with "SingEZ songs that we all know, and some that only harpers are supposed to know but they get around." A SingEZ is "A notecard reader that formats the songs in verses, one click, one 256 character verse with blank lines after, even." So anyone can perform anywhere by clicking on a HUD.

Ludo "will offer classes in performance to anyone who wants them at your convenience and mine before SL10B and the SciFi convention."

Rory is now apprenticed to Harper Learningmaster Tristin.

We speculated about publicizing Seven Seas fishing; there's a setup at Dolphin/Fishercraft Hall. Might attract people, especially if we could have some Pernese fish.


 - Work on Kuma continues
 - SL10B news
 - SLSFC news
 - Tier was paid on time, again
 - Meeting schedule change
Wyn and our mesh designer are continuing to landscape (rockscape?) Kuma.
   We claimed our SL10B space last week; Wyn will be working on our booths this week.
   Vee's working on an event for the Science Fiction Convention, June 22-23. VOLUNTEERS NEEDED! What she's planning is going to need dragons & riders, at least 1 pair. probably not room for more than 2. We'll have a Threadfall in a 64-meter square; yes, the dragons will have to learn to maneuver well! Once a Thread rezzer's adapted to that, it'll be useful for future demos. And we'll have ground crew to clean up what gets past the aerial forces.
   And the Sunday of SLSFC is also the 'birthday party' event at SL10B. VOLUNTEERS NEEDED there, too. And we're going to need recruiting/advertising material again..
   There's going to have to be a change to the meeting schedule for a few weeks, and Vee's classes will be cancelled or taken by Zavarra for a bit, too. She'll be out of town. There'll be meetings - but they won't be at the usual times, and possibly not usual days.


 - Construction continues
 - SL10B news tomorrow
 - SLSFC news
Wyn will be working on the north shore of Kuma. Ariel is in the planning stages of making a cliff.
   Discussed access to Dolphin and Fishers Halls; we might install a ferry to cross the river.
   Vee thinks we'll get news about our application for an SL10B site tomorrow.
   Vee might have to chair a panel at the SL Science Fiction Convention. With that and SL10B so close, we might have to use the same display at both.
   SL10B will probably have its usual 'taxi' service at ground level, while SLSFC6 will have a monorail, above the paths. They'll be held at almost the same time, so we need to design just one display for both. Because of the monorail, it'll have to look good from the second floor. Given SL10B's theme, of 'looking forward, looking back', maybe the SL10B ground floor should be a gallery of 'then and now' Gianfar pics and/or dragon pics while the SLSFC6 one should be more RP-themed.


 - Kuma road is coming along
 - Vee's working on the pathfinding HUDs
 - Rory's back
 - Meeting about SL sci-fi con

   Wyn reports that the road tunnel beside the Kuma Passage is almost finished... just needs to be... what's the opposite of "straightened out?"... to make the trip longer. She's saved the mine maze intact, presumably for use somewhere sometime. The sky's still full of floating mountains, dragons beware.
   Vee is continuing to work on a HUD to guide visitors (and returning members) around. Do you know where the Mastersmith's office is?
   Rory Petrovic is back after quite a while. She'll be a Harper. She has a blog - - and is thinking of adding one for Gianfar and Medieval-ish stuff.
   There's a meeting tonight about the IFT sci-fi con. It's for exhibitors, and also for potential volunteers - security guards, staff, guides, dancers... and that's all Vee knew at meeting time.


 - Tiers have been paid on time
 - Wyn's at work on the road
 - Possible trading post in IoW?
 - SL10B and SLSFC

Harpers' Hall and Runners' Rest have been moved eastward to make room for the Kuma north-south road. Watch out for floating mountains!
   Skylarian brought up the idea of some RP with IoW folks, perhaps a trading post somewhere off Gianfar. Sounded interesting.
   Awaiting response to our SL10B application; haven't heard anything from SL Science Fiction Convention.

2013-04-28 AM

 - Pre-meeting chat about SSB
 - Thread improvements
 - Kuma north-south road

Casually discussed latest viewers: Firestorm, Singularity, and Imprudence are working fine so far.
   Vee is considering Thread improvements "that might make Falls more interesting." For example:
 - an agenothree sprayer;
 - Thread susceptible to HNO3;
 - some grounded Thread burrowing and needing to be cleaned out with agenothree;
 - more clumping of falling Thread "so we can have that effect of a dragon burning the bottom of a cluster and seeing it flame all the way to the top."
 - random drops behind the leading edge;
 - possible effects of wind gusts;
and perhaps more later.
   Wyn's been planning a north-south road through Kuma - a project that Soo didn't get around to. Harpers, the Rest, and the stables would move east under the abandoned Smithcraft Hall. She'll try to contact everyone who owns objects in that area.

2013-04-27 PM

 - Saturday meetings dropped

Starting next weekend, there won't be a Saturday meeting (the decision was unanimous, all four of us at the meeting). Vee will have "office hours," scripting or working on other things if no one turns up.

2013-04-20 PM

Topics -
 - No recruits from IoW Spring Festival or Pern Day
 - Shaula improvements being done offline
 - Thuban planning continues
 - Grounded Thread now burns nicely

We don't seem to have attracted anyone from the IoW Festival... or they're still sitting and thinking about us.
   Nor from Pern Day.
   A friend of Varian's is working on modernizing Shaula (replacing 10x10 prims, for example). That's being done offline, we'll have a chance to review the work before it's 'delivered.'
   Thuban's future is still being pondered. If Soo can find the original 'raw' files, will they fit with the present shape of Shaula or will it be easier to terraform from scratch? What do we want to use Thuban for?
   The last batch of improvements to Thread scripts resulted in grounded Thread burning with a lovely cloud of black smoke when it's flamed. The ground crew now knows when they've scored a hit.

2013-04-14 AM

Topics -
 - Upcoming events
 - Thread bugs stomped

There was no formal meeting yesterday; Vee and Wyn had transportation problems, and the present release of RL doesn't support teleporting.
   A few of us chatted about the IoW Spring Festival, SL10B, and the SL Science Fiction Convention. The latter two overlap: SL10B runs until the end of June, SLSFC6 is at the end of June.
   Vee has fixed several problems with Threadfall, including one where the error included issuing the wrong error message.
   The scheduling conflict between SL10B and SLSFC6 will be slightly alleviated by both being in SL. And we can even link the two. We can have a 'gate' that TP's from one to the other - Vee thinks that's allowed by both events' rules, as long as the traveller is warned. At worst, we can give out LM's to both.

2013-04-07 AM

 - New dragon/rider pair
 - IoW Spring Festival
 - SL10B

Looks as if Heather and Teilyos will be coming in as adult dragon & rider. We don't have enough people to go through the full candidate / hatching / impression / training procedure.
   IoW Spring Festival is next weekend: theme is Celtic (Fae Dragons) and we have a booth. We can start setting up Monday and the festival is actually the 11th - 14th.
    Registration for booths at SL10B opens on the 15th. This year's theme is easy. - "Looking Forward, Looking Back" we spent some time remembering the Good(?) Old Days.

2013-04-06 PM

 - Pern Day wrapup
 - IoW Spring Festival next weekend
 - Thuban is here

Pern Day went pretty well. A guest is delighted with her green firelizard. We met a few other new folks and very old ones.
   All we know about Spring Festival is that it'll happen.
   Thuban is just bare sand now, but it's here and can be walked on and sailed around.

2013-03-31 AM

 - Severe lag in Kuma
 - Thuban is almost visible
 - Pern Day

Kuma suffered severe lag till John found and returned four high-script objects left by someone none of us knew. Wyn planned a sim restart after the meeting.
   Thuban emerges from the mists sometimes for some people. Vee contacted Soo, who's looking for the ".raw" files defining its landscape.
   We'll set up the Gather booths during RP time. We may have a booth destroyed by Thread.

2013-03-30 PM

 - Tier is paid
 - Thuban is back
 - Rebuilding Shaula
 - Pern Day

As of this morning, we're back to five sims! Thuban is south of Shaula. May not be visible from Kuma for a while... Concierge told Vee it can take 24 hours for all the updates to filter through. It's visible & accessible from Shaula.
   Vee: "Some of you may remember meeting my friend Ariel, a former RP sim owner herself, a couple of weeks ago. You may see her flying over Shaula from time to time, and sometimes rezzing objects. She has my permission, treat her as OOC. She's figuring out how to rebuild our weyr as mesh... If Ariel can do it, we'll have more realistic mountains that can change their look with the seasons."
   Vee may not be present for Pern Day, or might be here and working at the same time. We'll set up the Gather Ground during RP tomorrow. Firelizard hatching is set up. We've publicized the event, as you've no doubt noticed... also with postings in the "Looking for RP" group and at NCI. Vee has fixed some Thread, is working on some more.

Title: Re: Colin's meeting notes (book 5)
Post by: Colin on September 01, 2013, 08:04:10 PM
 - Homestead tiers are paid, Full tiers are due
 - Boulder Ball went well

All donations toward tier will be gratefully accepted.
   The Boulder Ball game last evening was fun. No spectators were trampled, and one of the dragons won.

 - Ortath has developed an RP HUD
 - Discussed defending against rogue builders
 - Tyl's tier is paid
 - Welcoming applicants
 - Boulder Ball for the dragons

Ortath's HUD provides hover text, chatting with multiple aliases for RP, and more.
    We've had more trouble with griefers and speculated on whether building could be restricted to "us." Vee had a solution that returns objects whose owners aren't on a whitelist of users and groups... but couldn't implement it while her cable connection was out.
    Vee reported that Tyl's tier is paid. No word about Etamin's.
    Discussed the material we give to applicants. We should have something for people who are new to Gianfar, and something more detailed after they've found an interest in Weyr, Craft, or Hold. We should have ways for potential riders and dragons to get together.
    Ortath's Boulder Ball game (soccer for dragons) is working. Next session: Saturday around 6:30 PM SLT.

 - Questions on Gianfar RP
 - Vee's available hours changing
 - Homestead tier is due
 - Boulder Ball
 - RP market?
 - Gianfar marks?
 - RP rules & Welcome Center notices
 - Impressions made last Sunday

John met someone from Japan last night; person had read all the books; gave John a notecard of questions... many of those are covered in my "How to RP in Gianfar" outline... I'll expand that into a handout... would like to get feedback from anyone who's interested, especially new members... thinking of holding some discussion / Q&A sessions for new folks.
   Vee's new job has her getting up early but she might be around in the evenings.
   We got past the tier for Shaula and Kuma, now need to finance Tyl and Etamin. Donations eagerly accepted!
   Ortath is considering organizing Boulder Ball games for the dragons - think soccer with very large players.
   Discussed having an RP market, as we had before losing Altais sim.
   Orion has an idea for making Marks to be used in RP. That aroused interest, so long as they're not in any way pay-to-play. But as long as 'marks' don't exchange for anything usable outside RP and don't confer any big advantage in RP... interesting.
   We've had a rash of people not paying attention to our RP rules. How do we encourage people to notice them? Perhaps IM'ing some of us when a visitor arrives, perhaps having an "is online" board in the Welcome Center to tell visitors who they could contact with questions.
   Notices of current events and news should be posted in the Welcome Center to show visitors that Gianfar is alive.
   Last Sunday's Hatching/Impression gave us three new rider/dragon pairs: S'ar/brown Ortath, T'dyr/green Angeleth, and S'ona/green Forfith. S'ona was reImpressing.

 - Tier is paid and Vee has a job
 - Hatching at 2 PM

The full sims are safe. Homestead tier will be due by next meeting. We should be able to relax.
   Hatching planning ran off the end of the meeting and continued in the Rest.

 - We'll appeal to LL for an extension on tier deadline
 - Tour dragon
 - Visitors dropping in & out
 - Threadfall hasn't been told about Standard Time

Breath is being held and bank accounts checked. Vee's job is still pending.
   Ortath displayed the tour dragon he'd bought. It remains to be programmed with a path and tested for its ability to cross Region boundaries.
   Talked about visitors, often new to SL, dropping in. One seemed to know his way around, though only two days old. Puzzling unless he was someone's alt. Newbies have also been seen using us as a changing room.
   Had a Threadfall during the meeting - Vee hadn't yet changed its clock - so we could sit back and watch it.

 - Homestead tier is paid
 - Full-sim tier is due tomorrow
 - Thuban & Lethe tier are due in a few days
 - Gianfar RP class?

Now we can start stressing about the full-sim tier that's due tomorrow ($390). And the tier for Thuban & Lethe will be due in the next few days (around $275, I think). We have a little cash on hand, nowhere near that much.
   Vee's employed again but hasn't been paid yet. She and Wyn are sharing a cold.
   The RP committee didn't meet last week.
   Discussed restarting Gianfar-specific RP classes.

 - Tier
 - Website upgraded
 - RP committee report
 - Wendy Foxchase has returned
 - Status of Thuban
 - Need rider candidates

Looks as if we may need only around US$25 to make tier for the homestead sims. Vee will notify us after checking with Wyn. Vee has a job possibility..
   Vee managed to upgrade the Website to the most current version of the forum software.
   The RP committee reported on use of the Website, how and whether scenarios ought to track IC time, forms for proposing a scenario, posting the progress of a scenario on the Website (especially important for multi-day RPs and for ones done partly in group chat), and ways to define, play, and maintain NPCs.
   Wendy Foxchase returned, to great welcoming.
   Discussed the state of Thuban. We don't know whether Soo still has the '.raw' file that defined its landscape. She did find the one for Tyl, and the present Tyl is based on that; it needed some tweaking to fit against the modified north side of Shaula. Thuban would need a good deal of tweaking from its original state, as the south side of Shaula has changed significantly.
   We have only one or maybe two rider candidates, and several dragons waiting for riders.

 - Tier
 - Dragon AO
 - Dragon modding
 - RP committee
 - Need new graphics for the Website
 - Mating flights and the like
 - New riders & dragons need to practice
 - Need riders
 - Invite friends to join

As far as Vee can tell all the month-end tier is paid. Homestead tier is due in 2 days (but we have a week to pay it). We need US$250; Novi Peaks has something over 60; not sure about the Paypal account. Vee will report to us.
   Vee's testing a new AO & straps on Varth, thinks it's nearly done. It *may* be possible to use the AO with other dragons, if they're moddable. She thinks she can write a script that will flip between a dragon's 'natural' AO and hers. And if *that* works, there's nothing stopping us using other dragon models in Fall.
   Talked about standards & techniques for dragon modding. There's a very old (but still usable) tutorial notecard somewhere.
   The RP committee gave a brief report. Generally, "What we are creating is roleplay seeds to encourage different RP times and activities and to make sure they are fairly consistent with each other so there is no confusion." One thing we (especially new members) need is a statement of how much the mainland knows about us; Vee will dig that out, update it, and provide it. The committee discussed kinds of RP, use of the website, and NPCs. They noted that there are RP rules on the website, and a lot of information in the region Covenants. Setting up an RP framework is not an event but an ongoing process.
   We need new graphics for the Website, as we have for years (hint).  
   We need to publish clarification to prospective and new members that we don't RP mating flights as in the books. Gianfar is a Moderate region; naughty conduct, if any, happens offstage and no details of such are mentioned - or, of course, reported in RP narrative. That applies to dragons, riders, and everyone else. New members need not worry about being pressured to RP such things.
   New members should read the Notecard requirements for the positions they are aiming for. In particular, dragon and rider candidates must realize that a good deal of training and practice is required.
   It's OK, and preferable, for dragon/rider  candidates to fly as NPCs before Impression, to get their training started.
   M'thos announced that he is here, usually, from around 1 till about 8 SLT - and if not, gets IMs quickly in his Email.
   We have dragons who need riders! Had 5 dragons in the air at a recent practice.
   Remember to invite your friends to join us. They don't need to have read all the books ((except to answer the Fairports' trivia questions)).

 - Financial status: OK for now
 - Flame, both dragon & flamethrower
 - New dragon AO
 - Suggestions for RP structure
 - Tour dragon

Tier status: Kuma & Thuban are paid up. Shaula's payment is up in the air. Lethe hasn't been paid and Vee hasn't seen Atea online to talk about it.
   At the start of the meeting, Novi Peaks had the equivalent of about US$50 of the 195 needed for Shaula, and probably another US$25 in the PayPal account. So we needed about US$120 by Monday afternoon. Several donors covered that during the meeting.
   Vee's scripting is backed up outside SL.
   Vee's done an update to dragon flame, but it has problems for some Firestorm users. She's also working on flamethrowers and "on a new dragon AO, for use with new straps. This should work with adult Etherworld, and - if you have access to the animations, or at least their UUIDs - with other dragon models. This means the next model of straps will work best with the AO, and, if Grif doesn't reappear, I'll have to instruct dragons on how to swap out scripts... there may be a way i can automate that a bit." She's also working on code for the "Menolly's Run" game.
   Discussed Ortath's suggestions for RP structure. Forming a committee (Ortath, Ludo, Colin, John, Rodney) to consider how to have more planned RP sessions, and when. Talked about NPCs: offstage, onstage as prim pets, onstage run by a player. Talked about how to get a range of times for RP, from western US time zones to European ones. Want to preserve spontaneous RP too.
   Discussed having a good enough looking dragon to give visitors a tour of the island. Ortath may have found a suitable one, moddable to make it Pernish.

 - Vee's still looking for a job
 - Website improvements
 - Possible Smithcraft student
 - Searching and Impression
 - Watch for nonmembers entering the sims

Vee has job interviews tomorrow, but tier on Shaula and our share of Lethe was due yesterday.  There have been some substantial contributions including a large donation made at the meeting which gave us enough to cover Kuma. We're probably close to US$295 short for Shaula and our share of Lethe. That's around L$75,000 allowing for the LL charges to convert L$ to US$. Discussed less immediate fundraisers including, perhaps, an OOC Hallowe'en party.
   Vee added a subforum for suggestions to the Website, and has already received a good idea. She has other changes in mind.
   We have a new member who's interested in Smithcraft... the first in a long time... and the Weyr. And we have several other prospects.
   Discussed the next Search and Impression now that we have at least two candidates.
   M'thos suggested that those of you who hang in the sims, make a habit of turning on your sim radar if you use FS or Singularity so if someone TP's in you don't recognize, or doesn't show in any of the group lists, IM them and ask if there's any questions you can answer.

 - Griefers again
 - HS tiers are paid
 - Vee is out of work again, for now at least
 - IoW is cutting back
 - John had to ban another griefer
 - Healers now has two apprentices
 - Sheppeth as watchdragon for Healers?
 - Emergency fundraiser?
 - More info about the TOS change
 - Documentation updates in the Weyr

Our uninvited guests with the aircraft carrier, from last week, showed up again. We were waiting to start the meeting, so several dragons and the Holder met them.
   Vee's out of work and Shaula's tier is due on the 28th... US$195 or about L$85,000.
   IoW is cutting back; 3 of their 5 sims will be changing hands (at best); and Wyrms leadership is to be restructured.
   Another griefer has been banned. Vee is testing a script that would return outsiders' prims. We're letting NCI Mousie and her friends build above Thuban so will have to exempt that from auto-return.
   Healers now have two apprentices, Star and Mor. Great cheering!
   Discussed having Sheppeth take the role of watchdragon for Healers; rider to be decided.
   Discussed having a very quick fundraiser to at least cover Shaula's tier - something related to Halloween?
   John reported that LL has *ahem* clarified the TOS change.
   News from the Weyr: M'thos has updated/added items to a Weyr welcome kit, removed the info that was sketchy. Loki has been updating the dragonet/firelizard info. Tim and Angeleth are approved, pending Hatching, and Tim would like to be Searched. We have two, maybe three, unpaired dragons.


 - Dragon/Healer pairing?
 - LL change broke dragons
 - Thuban as a private sandbox
 - Pern panels overcrowded at DragonCon
 - Greeters
 - Recent TOS change
 - New Healer apprentice
 - New dragon straps this week?
 - Possible "Menolly's Run" game/RP

We discussed whether we could rationalize a dragon/Healer pairing for Rodney. One possibility: Sheppeth as a dragon too injured to fight Thread, assigned to Healers as a watchdragon with an aging NPC rider.
   Skylarian reported that recent LL changes had broken dragons. A transparency bug was introduced in one of their code changes, and prims do not properly go alpha. There are two of everything on the newer dragons, and changing states does not bring all the prims into invisibility, so you have parts from flight show up when walking and vice versa. That could probably be scripted around, but both IoW and Gianfar are dependent on one dragon maker, until someone else learns how. We can RP in any (modded) dragon; we just can't fly Thread or a mating flight.
   John and Star dealt with someone who thought Thuban was a sandbox... wouldn't have been so bad, but the build was an aircraft carrier at sea level. (Yes, we considered the concept of a dragon carrier!)  We discussed how to allow only group members to build there; Wyn is letting NCI Mousie and a very few others have a sandbox there, above 1000 meters.
   Talked about social media as a way to publicize Gianfar. Of course, there's no site that all of us are on. Sky said that at DragonCon there were three times as many people waiting as could fit into the Pern panels.
   Talked about greeting folks at the Welcome Area. When will we have people on the island most of the time, so that visitors won't think the site is dead? Our members could play any part they liked, such as barkeeper, to "put a green dot on the map."
   Vee has made small changes to Thread; Kuma is now on the same version of Thread controller as Shaula. Dragonpairs should expect more Threads on Kuma, better clumped.
   Halloween event? Whole site OOC for a short time? Can't have ghosts  or religion or superstition IC, per Anne's rules, but could do scary stories and songs; do other things OOC. Maybe a Harper event?
   TOS change several weeks ago concentrated on LL's total rights to all User Content. John reported that it has the creator groups in a uproar. Vee said that "LL, under recent court rulings, need content creator's permissions to share images of content, as long as LL don't assert their legal right to your Intellectual property (which they can, btw. US law isn't written for users.) LL have always had the right to take & use any content in SL, by claiming it as 'theirs'. They explicitly don't do that. But they have to avoid getting caught up in frivolous lawsuits, especially as there's a very anti-virtual-worlds faction in Congress."  
   Healer Hall has a new apprentice, Mor Blackthorne.
   Vee may release new dragon straps this week, possibly accompanied by some instructions on how to mod a dragon AO.
   Vee's considering whether we could do a "Menolly's Run" RP in which dragons swoop down to rescue people who are running from Threadfall. One problem is how the person could grab a strap and get seated in next to no time, without RLV.


 - Things lost & found
 - Proper Pern dragon heads
 - Updated free/cheap clothing list
 - Hatching at ONE pm today

John chased off some outsiders today, who were building things high over Etamin. Vee removed a few hundred prims from Tyl yesterday, and Linden "friendship bears" from her Outer Fleet skybox over Shaula. She's working on a script that would.return prims to people not on a whitelist (members, officers, etc.) when they leave a sim.  
   That led into a discussion of lost & found items... riding straps, a wine bottle, a piece of parchment, a dragon (inside a sculptie in Shaula!), and so forth.
   A place called Dragon Lore is making Pern-style dragon heads for Seawolf dragons. Might be useful for those who aren't talented at modding.
   John's updated his list of places to find free/cheap Gianfar-style clothing; it's in the blue box on the Council table.
   Lokiande will be hatching during the 1 PM roleplay time slot today.
   NOTE, 1 PM, not 2.
Looks as if Rodney will officiate. Spent a while redeveloping something we hadn't done in quite a while. Gather finery would be appropriate garb for this event. Sim rules: everyone's invited, even non-members.


 - New & missing faces 'round the table
 - Tier is paid
 - Discussing use of Lethe sim in IoW
 - Script tweaks coming
 - New bridge over river
 - Impression coming soon
 - Notecard for free/cheap medieval clothing
 Weyrleader L'ron and Dramyn have left but we have more than a handful of interested people, returnees, and applicants. We had activity on the island at night - three dragons in the air for the 9 PM Threadfalls Friday and Saturday nights! At the moment we have several dragons needing riders. Dragon rides are a hit. Maybe we could have some kind of scripted greeter in the Welcome Center... maybe with an Eliza script that could answer a few standard questions?
   Tier on the full sims (Shaula and Kuma) is paid, as is rent on Thuban.
   Vee and Wyn have been discussing use of the Lethe sim, which we co-own with Atea of IoW, about what we might do with it.
   Vee has some scripting ideas - tweaking flame, straps, and the recorders... stay tuned.
   Wyn has modified the bridge between the Hold and the Gather Grounds... asked that folks try it.
   Robin Wood, noted artist (The People of Pern), is the featured person this week in the Drax Files (
   M'thos has a notecard listing sources of free or cheap medieval clothing.
   We'll have a one-pair Impression some time soon, maybe next weekend.

Title: Colin's meeting notes (book 6)
Post by: Colin on December 08, 2013, 07:52:47 PM
 - SL SF Con
 - SL11B
 - Tier
 - RP class will move to 1 PM

Met at the Con booth. Discussed the state of our booth, the horrible lag during performances, what displays and notecard givers should be put where, and had conversations with visitors including several Pern lovers. We have a tour dragon being used, rideable dolphins, hatching firelizards, and a greeting dragon. Also an infobot, free food in the Rest, and when time allows we hope to have a dragon bot flying over the booth.
    We have until June 18th to have our SL11B build done.
    Shaula tier is paid, we assume Kuna is.
    Vee's going to move her RP class back an hour - to 1pm - starting next Sunday, probably.

 - Pern Days & IoW April Fools Week
 - Chairs
 - Vee busy in RL this week
 - Griefer hit last night
 - Weyr leadership

Discussed preparations for Pern Days next Sat & Sun. Dolphin riding possible; boulder ball; dancing; an unexpected hatchie raid from IoW at 2 PM Sunday when we just happen to be baking cookies on the beach; maybe an OOC hatching; *maybe* a temp-attach flamer for guest dragons; fireworks by Gelgisith; music by XMarieX Fairport; merchants' booths with things for sale; Discussed how to advertise Pern Days, and to what groups; Vee will handle the spamming once we know what we'll be doing. Discussed scheduling; Blue will handle that.
    IoW will have a lot going on during the week, with a great deal of activity on Sunday 4/05. That will include a hunt; some prizes might be in Gianfar.
    Griped about the perennial poseball problem with the Council Chamber chairs. Vee has the chairs, Ludo could put animations in them.
    Vee will be apartment hunting this week.
    The Time Lord who keeps dropping in left a Tardis here last night and is now banned.
    Elaya, who's technically still Weyrleader, was here last night . She suggested coming back as Weyrwoman with Fire Saerwen, whom we met today, as senior queen. The Weyrleader would then be an RP lead role, held by an approved bronze rider, with 'real' mating flights. The Weyrwoman would be Weyr admin, the current Weyrleader would be an IC-only role. We discussed how to blend the change into our history.

 - Tier
 - Lethe
 - Anne's birthday
 - Problem with dragon flame?
 - UCSJ class postponed again
 - Class this afternoon, after 3 PM Threadfall

Tyl's tier is paid; Etamin's is paid or will be by tomorrow. Thuban's rent is up to date. Vee will be talking to Atea about Lethe soon.
    Vee expects to be offering rentals on Lethe.
    Anne McCaffrey's birthday, April 1, is a Tuesday this year. We decided to celebrate on the preceding Saturday, possibly in Lethe to involve IoW folks, and during the Sunday RP/dancing time. IoW's planning an April Fool's event with which we might connect. Ludo will contact Gertie and Snow from IoW to set a time.
    The latest release of flame breath works for two dragons, not for two others. Vee will investigate.
    The teacher from UC San Jose who was going to bring her class here to see real RP postponed the visit.
    This afternoon after Threadfall, Cynianne will teach an OOC/IC class on the differences between Gianfar and the mainland.

 - Tier status
 - Weyrwoman recruiting
 - Harpers are looking for teachers
 - Discussed OOC introductory classes
 - Recruiting

    Tier for Kuma and Shaula has been paid. Rent for Thuban is overdue but we should be able to cover it.
    We need a Weyrwoman and gold dragon. Ludo has talked with people who might take the Weyrwoman position. There was a long discussion, reaching no conclusion.
    Anyone who would like to (or might be willing to be talked into) teaching an IC class after Threadfall on a Sunday (or at other times) should discuss the idea with Ludo. "I wish someone would teach..." would also be welcome.
    Mentioned OOC "how to RP in Gianfar" classes, specializing what Vee teaches in "RP Basics" to what we do here.
    Star wrote a good recruiting Notecard, which Colin will post in a Notice to the "Looking for RP" group. Ortath has sent his "Gianfar DOP Weekend Events Magazine" to that group also. So we're known to a large number of people in the SL RP communities.

 - Getting people more active
 - Tier is OK
 - Vee's not going to be around much this coming week.
 Again discussed how to increase activity.
  - The Harper-sponsored classes have succeeded... the Wordmaster has needed to teach only one session of the four so far. We have one (first aid) scheduled for this afternoon and at least one more (colors and customs) being prepared.
 - Ortath's sponsored Friday evening and Saturday morning events.
 - We need Craftmasters who don't fade away. Harper Hall will be asking everyone to say what craft(s) they're affiliated with or interested in, if any, so that we can see where we need to recruit or try to regain Craftmasters. Then we can say that we have N people interested in X, and maybe others will jump in.
 - It would sure be nice to have more Weyr people - for example, a Weyrwoman and Queen Dragon. Perhaps temporarily to get some RP going? Someone's alt, perhaps? What backstory could we invent to rationalize always having had a Weyrwoman and Queen? Or suddenly having them? Perhaps a junior queen from long ago who inadvertently timed to our time? We'll discuss that whole topic next week.
 - Could we have a tunnel snake hunt, or a treasure hunt, in the mines? How would we handle what ought to be conflict between hunters and snake?
 - We'll advertise, in GPoP and the Role Play Center and elsewhere for dragons, riders, and craftspeople.
 - How about more staff for Runner's Rest? We could use a barkeep and others.
 - How about some people in the Hold? And dolphins?

Kuma & Thuban tier's been paid, Shaula's outstanding but should be paid by Friday..

Vee's new job's going well but she may have some travel coming up.

 - Tier for HS sims has been paid
 - Vee will be without Internet for a few days
 - IC & OOC classes
 - Historical artifacts

    A donation covered the mid-month tier with a little left over.
    Vee's awaiting broadband repair. However, she starts her new job tomorrow.
    Wordmaster Ludo would like to keep having IC classes after Sunday RP every week. Anyone who wants to teach something IC should talk to her about it. Anyone who'd like to see a class taught and doesn't have the knowledge or the time, tell her that too. The classes aren't just for or by Harpers; the more variety we have, the better. People could team up to do a class. Possible near-future classes include colors (as of insignia) and customs (such as forms of address); first aid (IC); RP, taught IC; and what would YOU like to teach or learn? IC or OOC?
    Does anyone have class notes from the original Gianfar RP classes? If you find any, please send them to John.
    John received a box of early Gianfar stuff from Ryu, whose spouse was our original Masterharper. It's "for sale" for L$0 from him or from most of the other folks who were at the meeting.

 - Financial stability is in sight
 - But not yet
 - So discussed fundraising
 - Riders needing dragons

Vee has landed a long-term job, so - in due time - we'll be in a sound position.
    However, homestead tiers are due today (US$125 each); and we're paying L$5800/week for Thuban; and the grace period on the full-sims' tier (US$195 each) will be over before her first paycheck.
    So how could we get enough money for at least one cycle of homestead and full tier, plus payments on Thuban? Advertise Novi Peaks Mall? Put a TP to the Mall in the Dome? Use a personal fundraising site on the Web? Move the Gianfar fundraising site, which still exists, to the Mall if there are enough prims available in Kuma? Set up a Classified ad in Search (would need funding and ad writing)?
    The Weyrleader's afoot again. Maybe Rory will come back as Rorth.

 - Gianfar history class
 - Threadfall schedule
 - NPC avatars
 - RP ideas requested
 - We have a Tanner ready to teach
 - Need Weavers and a Vintner

    Harper Wordmaster Ludo will teach a class on Gianfar history, immediately after Threadfall this afternoon. She'd like to collect memories from everyone.
    The new Threadfall schedule: Every two hours, about half past even-numbered hours on Shaula and about ten minutes before odd-numbered ones on Kuma. In each case it's triggered by the presence of at least two Gianfar residents in the Region, below 1000 meters.
    So the Gianfar history class will begin gathering around 3:15 today.
    Ludo brought up Ortath's idea of creating SL accounts for NPC avatars. This is what was done in the SL Shakespeare Company: all actors were such accounts, run by whatever player qualified to play that role. Someone would create the accounts; people would ask permission to play the characters; they'd get details about the character, and a password to the account.
    Ortath wants comments on his RP ideas, and other ideas.
    Star has a Tanner character who is ready to start teaching an apprentice. That role would fall under Leathercraft, a Hold craft. She's a leatherworker in RL, so well prepared to teach.
    We have a Weavercraft room in the Hold, and a vineyard in Tyl... just need people to take those roles.

 - Full-sim tier is covered though shivering
 - SL SF Con coming up
 - SL 11th Birthday also
 - "The Second Life Dragon Riders" group
 - Chance to help a college class
Had to cover tier for Shaula & Kuma by Tuesday, and a donor laid on a blanket of cash.
    The SL Science Fiction Con (SLSFC) is scheduled for May 30 - June 9. We've been able to get a spot there every year.
    SL Birthday 11 will probably occur in May.
    Ortath's group notice mentioned a group named The Second Life Dragon Riders. We discussed that and another group, The Dragon Riders of Second Life.
    snow Scarmon, of IoW, dropped in and discussed having Gianfar help with a San Jose State College class on virtual worlds. It's a Master's level course in library science on immersive education, using a virtual world as a learning platform. This semester the subject is Renaissance Florence. One of the lessons is to visit an RP sim, because "that is immersive at its finest." The students are to pick a character from that time in history and live the character. snow is hoping the class can visit groups that do that. We worked on setting up a session with them from 6 till 8 PM SLT on Thursday February 27.

 - Seacraft
 - Threadfall timing

We discussed Seacraft. The Master hasn't been seen for quite a while; reactivating the Craft would give us more RP possibilities. Plans are brewing.
    We noticed that the new Threadfall schedule causes a Fall at 11:00, during the meeting. We'll try adjusting RP time to 1:30.

 - Tier OK
 - Thuban's a-building
 - Departures from the Weyr
 - "Filming"
 - Boulder Ball and Hunt Game
 - Flamethrowers

Homestead tier is paid, including Thuban, so we're a 5-region island.  
    Wendy's started terraforming Thuban; it's very mountainous now. However, eventually the original terrain definition file will be put on it.
    The news last week was that Lokianth had left us; this week Forbith has gone too. And T'dyr has a job that keeps him away on weekend. We discussed how to make Gianfar more interesting.
    A fellow was making a machinima recording at the NCI RP class last weekend, without asking permission. We suspected that he was recording the meeting too. We discussed that and agreed that it's legal but rude to secretly 'film' activity.
    Ortath is suggesting a variation of Boulder Ball that would be canon: toy boats for dragons to snort around in the ocean. ("Dragonsong," pp. 102 & 104.) He also suggested enhancements to the hunt game.
    Flamethrowers in Shaula have been upgraded to the same software level as those in Kuma. Vee is almost ready to release version 4. We mentioned offering flamethrower training. Vee's thinking of putting out more greenery on Kuma.

 - Thuban
 - The Weyr: staffing up
 - Tunnel snakes
 - Dragon/rider cross-crafting
    Sylvia, a former member of Gianfar who owns Thuban, has put it up for sale to us and will sell it to someone else if we don't buy it. She moved the sim back to us and let it stay there so long as we paid her the tier. If we buy it, there'll be a transfer fee and the tier will go up from grandfathered to full homestead rate - which we can't afford. Homesteads can be owned only by someone who owns a full sim, so most of us couldn't buy it even if we could afford it. Perhaps we could make it an OpenSpace sim, which is basically just scenery., as we've never used it. Wendy Foxchase, recently returned to Gianfar, will try negotiating.
    M'thos is again a Weyrleader without a dragon; Loki has dropped out. The Weyr needs more dragons, more riders, more people who are familiar with how a Weyr works, Weyrfolk besides riders and dragons, more Threadfall and flight-course practice, RP scenarios separate from that of Hold and Halls.
    It'd be nice to have a tunnel snake av. We used a Dune sandworm from Grendel's once, but it's too big; and tunnel snakes have legs (six, as they're native to Pern).
    Discussed Vee's idea (see her post on the website) about dragon/rider cross-crafting: if we have two dragons who get on OK, then maybe one could sometimes be a rider for the other and vice versa. A person wouldn't have to create an alt to switch between dragon and rider. There seemed to be no objections to the principle, but possible problems with how many Gianfar-related groups a person would have to join to be both human and dragon. Riders in the Shaula Weyr group can get riding straps, dragons in the Dragons of Pern group can get flame, so someone who wanted to switch roles would have to be in both groups. We might find ways around that.

 - New members
 - Tier is OK
 - NCI will be using some of Lethe
 - First test of the hunt game
We discussed the new folks who are joining us - Harpers, Healers, dragons, a few riders.
   Tier on the full sims is covered; homestead tier is due on the 15th.
   NCI is losing a parcel on Beach but Wyn will be building for them on Lethe (the sim that IoW lost but for which we've been paying most of the tier to keep it alive).
   People tried the new hunt game yesterday and enjoyed it.

 - Tier should be OK; rent is due
 - Chase game available soon
 - Discussed the Turnover event, part 1
 - Planned for part 2

Tier for the full sims should be paid by the end of the week.
   Ortath is expecting to have a chase game (e.g., dragons and wherries) available next week. We discussed what a wherry should look like and how to mod something to look like that; and somehow tunnel snakes got into the thread too.
   Discussed what worked and what didn't quite work at last night's gather. Topics included organizing the Boulder Ball games so players knew which side they were on, and what medieval dance music we could find.
   Planned for part 2 of Turnover. We'll have at least one person wearing tags like "greeter."

 - SL behaving badly as usual
 - Tier for HSs & Lethe is covered
 - Table & chairs moved in Welcome Area
 - Turnover gather next weekend
 - Evening events?
 - Ortath is now a Guardian
 - No RP class today
 - Memorial for Anne at 1:30 PM today in the Bowl
 - Flamethrower practice sessions

Shaula rebooted Saturday night; some poseballs around the Council chamber had gone transparent; Vee had trouble logging in. As usual.
    Tyl, Etamin, and Lethe are paid; Thuban status unknown at this writing; Shaula and Kuma due next week.
    With Wyn's help, I've moved the round table in the Welcome Area out onto the floor, and put chairs around it. Folks can now sit around a table to chat with visitors.
    We'd like to have Orlith, of IoW, move the sample dragon from the middle of the Dome... but she's rarely available in-world. It'd be nice if arriving visitors didn't land in the middle of a dragon.
    We'll have a gathering in the Weyr Bowl for Turnover next weekend. We'll probably have some games. Decided to have two sessions, Saturday at 6 PM SLT and and Sunday at noon SLT, to accommodate  several timezones.
    Talked about having more events in the East Coast evenings. Just need people to run them (hint).
    Especially for evening events we'll need more Guardians. Ortath has been appointed to that group. Guardians have land management and ban powers.
    Vee won't be holding an RP class this weekend, and Zav will do next Sunday's.
    We'll hold a brief memorial for Anne in the Bowl at 1:30 SLT today.
    Discussed flamethrower training sessions. Vee might come up with a training range to put in front of the Rest.

 - Cross crafting
 - Dragon games
 - Dragon shuttle service
 - New map of Gianfar

   Discussed Vee's proposed rules for cross crafting. Wondered whether a cross-crafter who had done work that would qualify for Apprentice, Journeyman, or Master in the cross-craft might wear some sort of insignia to indicate that - as cross-crafters wouldn't be allowed to use the titles in the cross-craft. Touched on the possibility of getting new shoulder knots to replace the ancient pre-sculptie, pre-mesh, high-prim ones.
   There's now a dragon games rock in Shaula; it has only Boulder Ball now but will have more.
   Discussed the new dragon shuttle service. Thought we might rationalize it by having (dummy) riders on the dragons. That would fit with the new mainland custom of having rider/dragons assigned to Holds for transport purposes, so it'd be close to canon.  
   Discussed replacing the old map of Gianfar in the Welcome Center with an up-to-date one. Last week, Shanna put out a prim panel with the Map's view of Kuma; that would be a good start. John has terrain files of the four regions and (somewhere) a tool to make sculpties from such files.

 - Boulder Ball is succeeding
 - Riders wanted
 - Most tier has been paid
 - Gianfar map in Welcome Area
 - Discussed finicky flame

    Last night's Boulder Ball game drew three guests and one of our new members.
    We're still short of riders. New Weyrfolk are all dragons.
    We were about US$100 short of covering the tier for Shaula, but donations may have come in since the meeting. LL usually don't shut down a region if a partial payment has been made. We haven't paid our share of Lethe.
    We discussed the map in the Welcome Area, which is from before we acquired Tyl and Etamin and Thuban. We may well have the resources to create a modern map. Talked about many ways to create a map, even 3D models.
    Problems have shown up with flame lately; it seems to be failing in ways that "can't happen."

Title: Colin's meeting notes (book 7)
Post by: Colin on March 30, 2014, 07:09:38 PM
[Continued in book 8... seven 'books' of 20,000 words each so far!]

 - Classes in the 4-6 PM time slot weekdays?
 - 7Seas custom prize giver
 - Cleanup of lost items
 - Mating / Clutching / Search still pending
 - HS tiers are paid

We chatted about what might be done in Gianfar on weekdays during East Coast evenings. Perhaps some Harper classes could be taught.
    Mist is working on a custom 7Seas prize giver for us. We'll need to have our own game setup, as Wyvern didn't want to keep his here under LL's new laws about games of skill.
    John found and returned various lost items - poseballs that were inside the walls of Harpers Hall, riding straps all over the place. Vee is working on straps that will auto-delete when lost - note that straps don't work after being lost & returned.
    Fire is willing to do a mating flight alone if we can't find a time for both her and Elaya to be here.

 - Tier should be OK
 - Search and Hatching some time soon?

Tier on the HS's is due, but should be paid tomorrow.
    We have several rider/dragon pairs waiting for hatching. Began to discuss whether to RP a mating flight or go straight to Search and Impression.
    Discussed whether we could do a big Gather to draw folks for a Search, then combine a Hatching, which often attracts folks who had drifted away, with a Reunion gather where "old-timers" could meet again.
    Mist, M'thos, and S'ar will work on the planning of that/those event(s).

 - Tiers are up to date
 - LL's new rules on "skill gaming"
 - NCI RP classes move from noon to 1 PM
 - Clothing for NPCs

Discussed the new rule (see ) about games of skill. We'll return Wyvern's 7Seas fishing game, as he doesn't want to keep running it here, and set up one owned by one of us that will be allowed by the new rules.
    Vee has moved her RP class times to 1 PM, starting last week.
    The next mating flight / search / hatching / impression is still being planned.
    Star has developed new Pernish outfits for NPCs. We still have to come up with full-perm avatars and hair. This relates to the idea of having NPCs that anyone could play as needed.

 - Discussed SLSFC7 and SL11B a bit
 - Talked about people joining Crafts then going to the Weyr
 - All tiers are paid
 - 'Experience keys'
 - The new SL
 - Mating flight: a new way  
 - RP classes to be rescheduled to 1 PM

We have two new members from the summer shows - Epeth from SLSFC7 and Moira from SL11B. (I've likely missed others.) SL11B ended at midnight. The sims are closed to all but exhibitors, builders, and staff. Builders have two days to bulldoze their property; Vee is planning to dynamite Wyn's build tomorrow.
    Vigorously discussed the problem that we tend to have people entering Crafts only as a stepping stone to the Weyr. That starves the Crafts. Can we develop roles in the Weyr for people who are interested in becoming riders or dragons but aren't ready to start that training or don't yet have a flying partner? Can we build NPC avatars that can be used by various people as needed - that would need full-perm or at least mod-copy-no-trans shapes, skins, and clothing.
    All tiers are paid.
    LL have come out with this new idea called 'experience keys'. It's a one-time permissions grant. Vee's thinking of getting in one the beta testing. It would be interesting if Gianfar could get in on the ground floor of the new product. Reference:
    Be sure to read the Q&A with Firestorm & the Lindens. Lot of rubbish being talked about what the Lindens said. Vee suspects everything except scripts will be transferable. And she can handle scripting rewrites.  Animations may require converting, but the BVH format SL uses is a very old standard. SL's using a standard mesh format. Prims can be converted to mesh, or duplicated in mesh from their parameters, so even if it's an all-mesh or all-voxel world, we'll be ok. RAW maps can be converted to mesh or other landscape formats, we don't even need to lose terrain. Vee fully expects we'll transfer... when the time is right. And after trying it out. However, the whole thing is several years down the road.
    We'll be doing a mating flight soon (for some definition of "soon"), differently from all those before. All dragons will be allowed to participate, but only bronzes can 'win.' And no dragon or rider has to do anything they don't want to... for dragons & riders both, 'fade to black' is allowed. Riders can even exempt themselves from the Weyr - Anne herself wrote that rule. Dragons will be sitting on an object, based off the Straps scripts & appropriate to their colour. After the queen RP's blooding, the chase begins... and it'd better stay high - low-level flights tend to leave a lot of crashed dragons. If a bronze gets close enough, he can hit a button and try to catch the queen. But it's up to the queen to decide to get caught, and both have to be high enough up - maybe above 750m. Once 'caught', the pair will fall, at slightly less than gravity, until they're quite low, then be kicked off their flyers. How they, and the ground riders, RP this is entirely up to them. At the end of the flight, the 'winning' bronze rider will be Weyrleader. Which becomes an RP lead position, like any other bronze rider. OOC, the Weyrleader takes direction from the Weyrwoman, or - in extreme cases - Vee. IC, Weyrwoman & Weyrleader are equal, and senior to the Lord Holder in protocol. Which should make things interesting. Hold & Craft aren't invited to Flights... so we'll have to find an excuse to have other players in the Weyr at the time. And, the sims are *always* mature for flights. Anyone who wants to take advantage of this behind closed doors is welcome. But we're mature, not adult. The flight probably won't be done in GPoP chat; the flight prim isn't very stable, dragons will be too busy flying to talk.
    The meeting ran long as you might guess; RP class will be delayed to about 12:15, and will probably be scheduled for 1:00 from now on.

 - SL11B final week
 - Mating flight? Hatching? Impressions? Stay tuned

SL11B performances end today, site will be open thru next weekend. Without distractions, we might get more visitors. Vee said builders have an informal competition to see whose exhibit can be most spectacularly destroyed. We speculated about Threadfall...
    We have several possible hatchings that could happen... no specifics so far.

 - Tier status
 - SL11B
 - No RP class next week

Tier: Kuma, Shaula and Etamin are all paid up. Tyl, Vee's hoping, will be paid up in the next couple of days - it'll be late, but should be ok. Thuban rent is overdue.
    SL11B opened at noon. We could greet visitors... anyone who wants to be a dragon or dragon/rider pair could spend some time hovering overhead... tour the exhibits, talk to other rp'ers or potential rp'ers, see if we can find new ideas to use. We have room for dolphins, and one display one; not (yet) the active ones from SLSFC7. We can't have Threadfall or flamethrowers - no rezzers allowed - but there's a particle Fall overhead. We can't have anything for sale - or even advertise that something's for sale elsewhere.
    SLSFC7 brought us several new members. We had a much better response than in previous years.
    Vee will have to cancel the NCI RP class next week for RL reasons.

 - SL11B status
 - Lethe safe; new dragons coming
 - Dragon/rider pairs awaiting Hatching

Preparation of our SL11B site is awaiting the sim coordinator, who's needed to do more terraforming to make more room for Ortath's dolphins. Wyn's used our SLSFC7 booth, resized to fit. We won't be selling anything.
    The Lethe sim in Isle of Wyrms is funded now. People there are planning to build new dragons.
    We're picking up new members, and at least one old member (Y'sa) is planning to return. Three dragon/rider pairs will be awaiting a Hatching when they've completed the application process.

 - Tier was overdue
 - SL11B in 10 days
 - How to raise money?
 - How to expand to Australia and Europe?

Turned out we didn't have the money for the mortgage on the cow... uh, sim. We were short US$75 for Kuma, plus the rent on Thuban. But a mysterious stranger tossed us a bag of gold again.
    We have 10 days to get ready for SL11B. That plot has roads on all four sides. One neighbor is Caledon, another is Virtual Ability. We'll likely recycle the SLSFC7 build, compressing it slightly.
    Brainstormed about raising money for tier. We have people who could make clothing and furniture and maybe other things for sale. Perhaps we could turn the 7 Seas fishing site, at Dolphin Hall, into a pay game - perhaps moving it to an OOC area. Perhaps we could run some Gather-like yard-sale area where 'outsiders' could sell & buy... in Thuban skyboxes, perhaps? Maybe a book club, maybe focusing on the Pern books, accepting donations toward tier.
    Talked about having activity outside our "traditional" times. Maybe we could recruit in Australia (we have one new member there), the UK (one) and Scandinavia (one).

 - Tier & rent are OK
 - LL explains hardware/software problems
 - Harpers have new instruments for ensemble playing
 - Upcoming events
 - Classes last Sunday after Threadfall
 - Gathering tomorrow to build for SL SF Con

Tier for the full sims is due this week, and Vee believes it's covered. The rent on Thuban is due today, that's covered. So we're good for another few weeks.
    John pointed us to a Linden blog explaining the hardware and software problems that LL has had over the years, including last Tuesday's long login problems. For those who love to see behind the scenes:
    The harpers have a set of Mikki Miles ensemble instruments now so they can play for groups at gathers. Fascinating tech: people thousands of miles apart can play together despite lag.
    Our application for SL11B hasn't been accepted yet.
    SL SF Con starts soon: May 30 thru June 8, with an "end of the world party" June 9. (Thanks for the date correction, txep'ongokx!) We have a booth (105) but nothing to put in it yet. Link:
    Last Sunday, after the 3 PM Threadfall, there were impromptu class for Thread flying and flamethrower use.
    Wordmaster Ludo would like to get reports of all our activities; if there's no Harper present, anyone can be a Student Harper and report.
    Some of us may get together tomorrow to build something for the SF Con booth. Vee will put out a Notice when she'll be available.

 - Homestead tiers are paid
 - SL11B

Very light attendance at today's meeting; only the core of the hard-core members turned up.
    Vee applied for our SL11B spot, and expects to hear back on or after the 20th. We'll have a 32x32 parcel, can build as high as 100m... no skyboxes or sky platforms; overhanging 'Branches' at least 2m above the sidewalk are allowed.

 - Tier OK  
 - SL11B
 - Private spaces
 - New projects: kitchen, clothing, and more
 - Harper feast at 1:15 today
Thuban rent is paid and Homestead tiers are covered.
    Our application for an SL11B site has been submitted. We discussed what we could do in 60 minute performances.
    We had a visitor over in Shaula who was looking around and going into "private" areas. That started a discussion of lockable curtains (which renters may request from Wyn). Our rules say that one shouldn't go through locked curtains but that's hard to enforce on visitors. Defensive orbs are impractical in an "apartment house." So we have a continent-wide greeter that advises non-members of our rules, and if necessary we treat them as roleplayers from across the Rift.
    Kelly, our newest member, has built a Hold kitchen at the west end of the second floor below the Council Chamber floor. She's planning a line of clothing - starting with garb for new folk, expanding to clothing for all walks of life. Active members will receive clothes free, new members could get them for a very moderate fee; all proceeds going to tier. And more ideas next week.
    Could be that the Harpers are planning more than just a feast...

 - Flamethrower practice range is up
 - Tier is good
 - SL11B

The flamethrower range is open, above Tyl, but the 10-meter target isn't working yet.
    Full-sim tier is paid, and homesteads are covered. Lethe is lost to us.
    SL11B will be June 22-29, theme is "The empires of the future are the empires of the mind" - Churchill. Main blog is at ...We'd have 32x32 meters, no higher than 100 meters, 10x10 meter floors. Considered a Threadfall with a tour dragon letting guests ride & flame. Considered flamethrowers (short range, disconnecting when taken off the parcel, 'bullets' with a short life span, etc.). A discussion of how to answer the application question about how we'd fit into the event theme continued into group chat.

 - Tier is covered
 - Status of Lethe
 - Rezzing problem on Kuma last night
 - Planning for classes
 - Moving plants?

Tier for the full sims is covered and Vee is pretty sure next month's  Homestead tiers are covered. But the company she just started working for has folded.
    Therefore she wasn't able to go through with buying the Lethe sim from IoW. This explains Skylarian's notice that Lethe is now for rent rather than for sale;
    There was trouble with Threadfall in Kuma yesterday. A guest in a skybox had rezzed a house of >300 prims which pretty well shut down the Threadfall rezzers.
    No RP class today.
    Journeyman Harper Cynianne got the Harper class notes from Ludo but didn't have time to prep a class for today. She plans to start the Harper Hall series next week. Anyone in any Craft who would like to teach a class should contact her. She'll be installing a flamer practice range.
    We talked about having the Thread-target plants move (when no one was around) to make the ground crew's work more... interesting.

 - Tier situation is good
 - Cynianne will handle Harper classes
 - Flamethrower class at 2:00 this afternoon
 - Harpers, report!
 - SL11B will be June 22-29, SL SF Con soon after

HS tiers are all paid, so is Thuban's rent. FS tiers are due a week tomorrow, and should be covered. And Vee is finally moved in and wired up.
    Wordmaster Ludo is turning the Harper class organizing over to Journeyman Cynianne. Ludo's not going to do anything in SL after 2 PM SLT. Cyn will most definitely be asking other crafts to contribute to the classes. And she's seeking apprentices.
    Cyn will teach flamethrower use this afternoon, prior to Threadfall.
    Ludo has received no replies to her Notice asking people who wanted to earn rank in Harpers to speak up. She'll send at least one more. The post of Wordmaster is open for anyone who can do a better job than she can.
    SL11B exhibitor applications will open next week, Performer applications are open now. Vee's wondering if we can do a Fall demonstration or something. Theme: "The empires of the future are the empires of the mind." Vee thinks a bunch of RPers who live in a world of dragons can probably cope with that.

 - Harper events
 - Tunnel snakes
 - Proposition about NPCs

The Harper masters gathered last week and had a long interview with someone... they emerged seeming quite pleased... and the Hall is to hold a feast this afternoon, after the 3 PM Threadfall. Clearly something's planned.
    Watch for tunnel snakes all over the island!
    The quintet of Harper Masters was partly made up of NPCs and went very well. Ludo's picked up Ortath's idea that we create specifications for some NPCs who could be played by anyone. The NPCs could be someone's alt, with another player temporarily having the password to that account, or could be a body... or just clothing... worn by someone else. The NPC's detailed appearance wouldn't have to be perfectly consistent over time, different players could create similar bodies/clothing with the approval of the NPC's 'owner'. Ludo suggested that each NPC be 'controlled' by one player, creating the back-story and characteristics, possibly creating an account, possibly providing full-perm clothing, hair, etc.

 - Birthday event seemed to go well
 - He who was Pathfinder Linden will lecture in SL tomorrow
 - Vee out for a few days, moving; no RP class today
 - Discussed spreading Threadfall to other locations

 The event went well, from the memorial ceremony through the song and story circle and the dancing / trivia contest to Gelgisith's fireworks. We agreed that the hatchie raid last Sunday was... interesting. Also exhausting.
    John Lester, once Pathfinder Linden, will speak tomorrow, 6 PM SLT, on “Finding the Balance between Pedagogy and Technology.” See
    Vee is moving again and will be offline, possibly all week. But her new place has good Internet connections.
    We mentioned having Thread targets on more places, like the north side of Kuma, to give sweep riders tasks.

 - Birthday celebrations
 - Tier & rent are paid
 - Straps & flames

Discussed yesterday's very successful part one of the birthday celebration for Anne. Excellent song/story circle, dragon/rider practice, dolphin rodeo, hatchie scouts, boulder ball, fireworks, probably more. Weyrwoman Elaya arrived on gold dragon Miath, though after most folks had left.
    Discussed today's part two. Ceremony with Lady Varian, weyrling S'ar, Wordmaster Ludo. Hatchie raid expected; we'll be invited to IoW's April Fools week. Several new members.
    Tier and Thuban rent have been paid. We're back to financial security.
    Discussed riding straps and flame, with which several people have been having trouble for no known reason. Also discussed flamethrowers; some people have trouble with them, others don't. This is probably because, unless otherwise. We considered having a Google Docs form for bug reporting.

Title: Colin's meeting notes (book 8)
Post by: Colin on August 03, 2014, 07:28:43 PM
Continued in book 9...

Old Business ('T' marks tabled topics - nothing to report)

  - Agenda - update, finalize
  - Finances - State of the Union
    A donation allowed payment of full-sim tiers. Homesteads are due tomorrow. Vee still has many job prospects.
  - Calendar - update on upcoming events
    Part 3 of Ludo's Event-Story-Song class is coming up, then she'll be asking old-timers to tell stories of the Old Days in Gianfar. Hint: that graduation exercise meets two or three Harper promotion requirements. Discussed how to lure old-timers.
T - 7Seas Fishing - update on progress
T  - Ortath's Telepathy HUD Icon Contest - update - Mist offered to discuss/demo it after the meeting
  - Classes (RP & Admin)
    Ludo's class will be at 3:30 SLT Tuesday. No news on Star's, Cynianne's, or Vee's classes.
  - Fall Scripting - adjustments to Admin control
    Vee hopes to get an update to the scripting soon.

T  - River Quest - status check on new completers
    None last week. Colin offered to give hints after the meeting
T - Newcomer Location Quest - update on set up
  - e-Hide Droppers
    Back end for Web-based application 'dropper' is mostly done.

Vee reported that Wyn's feeling a lot better and would've been at the meeting if not for RL conflicts.

  - Craftmaster Reports
        - Harper Class times (see above)
        - Smithcraft Hall improvements
    Mist has added three raft rezzers, and has raised the Harper/Healer bridge to accommodate the rafts. One can now sail all around from Etamin Bay through Thuban Beach.
        - Fall Scripting - adjustments to thread
    Little progress until recruiters stop phoning Vee constantly

  - Mating Flight/Search/Impression - update
    Have two pairs waiting at the moment: Rhys/Kiykia and M'thos/Epeth. Discussed how to have events to attract people so that we could have events. Discussed problems with getting dragon animations working. May do the 'out of time' storyline which starts with a mysterious dragon dropping off a close-to-hatching egg - or two - at a location distant from the weyr. (The weyr has determined that the mystery dragons are timing it from the future, although we don't know when.) That approach takes care of these cases when we don't have enough pairs to do a full Mating Flight, clutching, Search, Hatching, and Impression.

New Business:
 - Documentation Brush up & Recruiting
    Mist and Moira will be leading this. How do we recruit people? How do we keep people?  Need to draft new notecards for the Welcome Center. There are ideas in the new-player task board beside the Hold Office. Can we make Novi Peaks Mall a more productive place? How about some short monthly events to attract people? Could we set up an SF/fantasy bar somewhere for people from all the genres to meet and talk and maybe be attracted to Pern? But we have to have a way to lead new people into being active members. RP stories starting in other areas than the Rest? Weyr RP sessions starting in Shaula? Continuing Thursday-6pm Weyr RP sessions? Posting RP status to the Forum so people can keep up with a storyline?
    Need to clean up group membership.

 - We now have a meeting agenda
 - Finances
 - Calendar
 - 7Seas Fishing
 - Ortath's Telepathy HUD Icon Contest
 - Basic RP Classes
 - River Quest
 - Newcomer Location Quest
 - New application to manage applications
 - Fall scripting

Thanks to "Mist Jaxxdottir" we have a meeting agenda!

Old Business

 - Agenda - update, finalize
 - Finances
    Finances are going to be bad for a while. The full sim tiers are past due, but LL seem to be willing to give us some breathing room. The 2 full sims are US$195/month each. The 2 HS's are $125/month each. And Thuban is L$5800/week. The NoviPeaks PayPal address, for those who'd like to make donations in US$, is
 - Calendar - update on accessibility and content
    We have a bunch of new events on the Calendar.
 - 7Seas Fishing - update on progress
    Mist has a donation of boots to put in the giver, and is working on making more prizes. She has fishing-raft vehicles almost ready and there will be real boats that are just nice seating areas NWof firelizard island. We need donations of prizes, and hosts who will run contests, before we consider adding fishing areas.
 - Ortath's Telepathy HUD Icon Contest - update
    Ortath's Notice from last night clarified the rules and changed the item descriptions.
 - Basic RP Classes with Harper Cyn and S'ar - update
    Cyn needed to reschedule her practice RP class.
    No news on Star's RP class.
    Vee might have her RP admin class ready for comments soon.
    Ludo's Event-Story-Song class was fun but lightly attended and interrupted by Threadfall. (See "Fall scripting" below) There was much discussion of class times; she may try 4:30 Tuesday and meet in Tyl to avoid Thread. One goal is to record some Gianfar early history by getting "old-timers" to sit around a campfire and tell stories of The Old Days.
 - Findability - discussion
     Skipped this topic.

 - River Quest - status check on new completers
    No one had 'bought' the 'prize' since last weekend.
 - Newcomer Location Quest - update on set up
    Ludo has come up with some wonderful rhymes for most of the locations. Some places need maintenance so we'll start with just a few. Questers will be encouraged to ask for help with the clues - the idea is for them to succeed, thus learning what's where. The existence of the quest could be put on the info card in the Welcome Area which talks about runners. We could have several quests, serial or parallel, after we see how the demo works out.
 - New application to manage applications
    Vee's working on an app to replace the hide droppers with a Web-based process, available only inside SL.

 - In the Old Days this section was for Craftmaster reports.

 - Mating Flight/Search/Impression - update
    Moira would like to be a Rider but is also interested in Harpers. Not having found a dragon, she's been working as a drudge in the Weyr. She's planning to go through Hatching without Impressing, then write some stories about making the transition to Harpers. This was approved by the Weyrleader, Wordmaster, and Lady Holder. (I'm recording this because someone else might like to follow this path some time. -Colin)
    The Flight will be held today if Vee can get a few bronzes and Fire together.
 - Fall scripting
    There will, coming up, be a new Thread hud which will count flamethrower fuel levels, or a dragon's breathing (and, in due course, firestone). Vee figured out why the reporting system was losing Threads - she hopes - and has scripted around it. Later on, there'll be a flamer for firelizards, too. More like a flamethrower. Shorter range, but they won't run out of firestone the way she's planning on making the dragons run out. There will be a way for admins to prevent automated Falls - that will probably come first. Grounded Thread will, she hopes, burn any Thread it touches once it's set on fire. She's still looking into Cyn's favourite annoyance, Thread growing inside prims. The new reporting system and new Flame, which affects both dragons and groundcrew, and a new version of Thread code, all need to roll out together; this is a major change. A new flamer will be delivered to the dragons. The flamethrowers will be updated at the same time. Old perm flamethrowers will still 'work', but poorly. Old Flamers, ditto.

 - River Quest
 - Searchability of Gianfar
 - Lag on Tyl boundaries
 - Clutching next Sunday
 - Adding items to the Calendar
 - Ortath's contest about dragon-telepath HUDs
 - Classes
 - Location Quest
 - Threadfall reporting issue

Mist, Moria, Ayla, and Cynianne have found the source of the Underground River.
    Received an anonymous complaint in Elaya's application dropper about how hard it is to find us. Discussed that. We've never been able to use "Pern" in the land description without Search classifying us as an Adult place; Vee's filed many Jira entries with no result. We should be able to put "McCaffrey" in our Group and Land descriptions. We'd have to pay L$30/week to be listed in Places... and for a group-owned location, every member of the owning group is billed that much. Novi Peaks is spread among several owners, for safety... but all three have been out of touch at the same time at least once. Estate Managers can restart sims; each of our sims has 10 EMs plus the owner.  We could add the "Kuma" name to the Group descriptions. We can't create a tiny parcel under the Welcome Center, giving it a Searchable name, because LL has a rather large minimum size for a Searchable parcel.
    John's observed a lot of lag on the borders of Tyl... "there are straps littered everywhere"... and the complainer said s/he had been kicked out of SL when the Tour Dragon crossed from Etamin to Tyl. Probably nothing we can do about it.
    Clutching next Sunday, could do Search the following week and Impression the week after.
    If you have an event, and a Gmail account, and have been added to Novi Peak's calendar list, send an invite to - it'll get added to the calendar automatically. Or, if you have a Google calendar, create an event and add Novi Peaks as a "guest."
    Ortath is running a contest for icons & messages for his dragon-telepath HUD. Needs graphics for the icons and suggestions for messages like "Thread sighted," "Need firestone," and "Injured." Riders and dragons should suggest messages they'd like to be able to send. Contact him for notecards.
    Cynianne's Basic RP classes would be scheduled during the week, once or twice a month, for people who can't attend Vee's class on Sundays. Cyn's available Tuesdays or Wednesdays, early afternoon SLT; Star could give the class at other times, perhaps evenings. Cyn suggested scheduling the class for an hour, expecting it to run over if there are many questions. Vee may slip her 'RP Admin' class in, in weeks when there's no Gianfar RP class. So, maybe the 'Basic RP' class first & third Tuesdays at 3 SLT and Vee's 'RP Admin' class in the other two weeks. We suggested that the classes be listed in the Gianfar events calendar (see above), in both the Web site and the Welcome Center. We could encourage a time for Craft classes, such as Ludo's Harper ones. Ludo might move those to Monday afternoons. We may be reaching the point where we need a class coordinator. but who would have the time?
    Mist volunteered to be agenda keeper for the meetings. If anyone has agenda items for next week, and gets them to Mist by Friday, we can post them to the group before the meeting. The old-timers remembered Jaxx Marjeta, once Hold Steward, who kept the meetings organized; Vee talked to Jaxx last week, she's recovering from shoulder surgery.
    Mist is working on a Locations Quest to help newcomers (and maybe not-so-new folks) learn where everything is. She's listed a dozen major locations so far, needs clues (perhaps poetic couplets) and prizes; and places to hide a prize in each location. Ran out of time, tune in again next week.
    Ortath reported an issue with Threadfall reports not registering Thread flamed yet registering threadscoring. As Vee is working on overhauling the whole of Thread, she's sure she'll find out just what the problem was.
    And we called a halt after 2-1/2 hours.

 - California earthquake
 - Tiers are paid
 - Classes
 - Dragons?
 - 7Seas fishing/quest
 - Firelizard hatching today
 - Cynianne will be away on Sundays

SL didn't seem to have been affected by the earthquake in Napa. No one at the meeting knew anyone who'd been hurt.
    Donations have helped pay the tier so far, but the payments for Shaula and Kuma are due this week.
    Ludo's class on poetry was enjoyed by the few students. Vee is working on an RP Admin class for NCI; it'll be in two parts, a general part about the theory & 'usual' practices, and a specific part for Gianfar. It will be for everyone, so players can find out what admins do, and what owners do. Cyn is also working on a Gianfar RP class, should be ready for a test run soon.
    There are no new dragon avatars yet, but Orion and others are working on them. We formed a committee (Hwyl and Myst) to contact avatar makers.
    7Seas fishing is running again in Etamin, thanks to Mist. Anyone who builds and is interested in making prizes for the fishing is welcome to do so. We'll have a fishing session after Threadfall this afternoon. Mist is putting out some boats. We're pretty sure that 7Seas is legal under the new LL rules about games with payouts. When someone buys fishing equipment from a 7Seas site, the site owner gets 20% of the price - so Novi Peaks will have a very irregular tiny income. More important, the game may draw visitors who might join us.
    Ayla's clutch will hatch today - three eggs.
    Cynianne will be starting a job. at the end of October, that will have her working full time on Sundays, for a few months at least.


 - Chatted about the Underground River
 - 7Seas fishing
 - Maintenance needed in Shaula
 - Another Quest
 - Classes
 - Cross-crafting

Mist found the River last week, at least one other person is searching.
    Discussed where & how to set up fishing without being too OOC... perhaps on rafts or small boats.
    John reported some things broken in the Shaula baths. This will be Looked Into.
    Mist is working on using the 7Seas fishing blueprint/salvage system in designing educational quests. The player would get a blueprint of salvage items that had to be found and loaded into the blueprint. Once fully loaded, the blueprint can be touched within 20m of a custom prize giver, to receive a prize - which would be Gianfar-related. This could be used as a teaching game, to give new folks a reason to explore the island - and just for fun.
    Star held a Character Background class last Thursday, which I'm told went well. Ludo's asking for suggestions for other classes folks might like to attend. "How to RP in Gianfar"? "History of Gianfar"?
    Discussed cross-crafting and the unofficial rank of 'student' in a craft. This was in the context of people joining a craft, or attending craft classes, while planning to be a rider or dragon. Vee's ruling: "Just so it's clear: until Search, potential Riders are just that, potential. They can be training on their 'own' time, but their primary is still their Craft or Hold. Weyr doesn't take over until they make candidate. Although I do expect Craftmasters to allow time for OOC weyr training."

 - Classes
 - Weyr clothing & objects
 - New strain of Thread?
 - Harper classes
 - Other topics

The classes on RP in Gianfar and on running bardic circles went well. There's some work being done on classes for drummers. Mist and M'thos are working on 'How to advance in the Weyr' like harpers and healers have.
    Weyr projects: candidates' robes. carryable glows (coverable, perhaps that dim until recharged), documentation of rules on dragon colors and dragon/player gender (Green & Gold are "girls;" Blue, Brown, & Bronze are "boys;" no restriction on players' genders). Long discussion about mesh clothing.
    There's a rumor, from reliable sources, that a new strain of Thread may show up - easier to hit when high, much harder near the ground. It'll be easier to be scored. Maybe it won't grow horizontally when it lands on a sloping surface - if SL can manage that.
    Ludo asked what kinds of Harper classes are popular. Responses: Bardic Circle, Joy of Song, Getting the Facts & Reporting the Facts, how to build a backstory for one's character (could be a class on Embellishing the Facts). Also, classes to teach new folk about our leaders, our history, and such.. and maybe a basic discussion on Pernese culture and such for the new folk. And a book discussion (OOC of course). And Gianfar history.
    There was much discussion of who can help with what, who has what roles, how to have a meeting of leaders when no two can be on at the same time, and related issues.
    Moira's been working on an NC of places around the Weyr. Perhaps we'll not be losing Weyrfolk who wander down a hall and never return.

 - Tier should be paid tomorrow
 - Quest in the Mines; getting lost in the Weyr  
 - Notecard givers in the Dome
 - Harper (& other) classes; Weyr advancement

Tier for Shaula and Kuma should be paid tomorrow.
    Colin's going to set up a Quest in the Mines, as a pastime. There's an underground river deep in the mines. He plans to put some kind of marker there that people can 'buy' for L$0 to prove they got there. Then they'll be honor-bound to get out of the mines without teleporting.
    That led into a long discussion of people getting lost in the Weyr... and making maps... and how to make dark passages and glowbaskets that would dim and fade after a while... and so forth.  
    The Notecard givers in the Dome are mostly empty or very outdated. There's a project to update them.
    John has started working on Weyr advancement.
    Wordmaster Ludo has received only one Notecard in response to her offer to organize some classes. With no more interest than that there's no incentive to hold the classes. But given interest, besides the ones that were listed in Ludo's Notice we could have classes on first aid, tanning, and other subjects.

Title: Colin's meeting notes (book 9)
Post by: Colin on September 28, 2014, 08:02:48 PM
(continued in book... 10 already?!)

(omitted tabled items to shorten report  -Colin)

 - State of the Union
    - Finances
       - Full sim tiers are paid; Thuban due next week; HS's due on the 15th.
       - Ad boards at RPC and NCI are paid up.
 - Documentation Brush up & Recruiting
    - Recruiting
       - Updated NCs for Harper Hall have been approved by Ludo.
       - New Player Checklist has been sent to recruiters.
 - OOC Classes (RP & Admin)
    - Starting the new rotation; Basic RP this Tuesday at 10 AM or 3:30 PM.
    - Getting set up to advertise on SL Events Calendar & with standard Notices in GPoP.
 - 7Seas Fall Fishing Expo
    - Not allowed to advertise non-fishing interests at the Expo; can have sign saying who we are & can advertise the fishing competitions for the Fall Gather.
    - Could sell fishing-related items to raise money. Could put out a donation bucket.
    - v1 fish flits done! They circle the wearer, have names, breathe flame, respond to imminent Threadfall, and more.
    - Need a fishing adv poster
 - Fall Gather - locations, times, etc.
    - Need a fall gather poster
    - Need a few Fall-specific prizes
    - Planning meeting time: Tuesday at 8 AM
    - Keen for Anne (Nov 21st)
    - Tithe (Nov 23rd - 2pm?)
    - Campfire Tales (Nov 23rd - after Tithe)
    - Dance (Nov 23rd - ?)
    - Fishing?
 - Sci-fi Con
    - We have a plot 35x35x86 high. It's on the sim edge, next to water, and we're free, even encouraged, to use off-sim builds... Plus... we can use space in the sky. We'll also be sponsoring an event with the Fairports hosting. And Vee's going to have another go at dropping Thread on the con... possibly at the same time, since Kiva knows what to expect.
    - The con theme is 'Future Santorini'. Details here:
    - When Vee suggested we might want a way for dolphins to get from the sea to our build, they got quite interested.
    - Perhaps the con will let us provide Ortath's dragon rides again this year.
    - Possible theme: recruitment center for the proposed PERN colony.
 - Sunday RP Discussion
    - Perhaps recovering a meteor from the sea floor in Etamin; that would need some building and planning, would likely involve dolphins and maybe dragons.
    - Perhaps we can get RP going at other times, which could attract more people allowing more RP.
    - Perhaps have a "Gianfar RP" group to allow RP in group chat without spamming everyone. To be discussed next week.
    - Send NCs of RP ideas to Mist, or drop them on the website.


(T is for Table.. either no news or no one to talk about it)

Old Business:

 - State of the Union
    - Finances - tier is covered!
T   - Where is?? - Soo, Wyn, Jax
T- Vee's Scripting Projects: tabled till she has time to work on them
    - e-Hide Droppers
    - Flame target on flying course
    - Fall Scripting - adjustments to thread, Admin control
    - Website

 - Documentation Brush up & Recruiting
    - Recruiting
       - Karo & Beli survived their Interviews
       - Hori would like to be a firelizard, Maia a Weyr kitchen drudge
    - Documentation Brush up!
       - Updated draft for New Player Checklist, addressing comments from website
       - Harper Hall scroll case still needs some updating
       - How much detail should be presented where? As a new member, Karo will help with this.
    - TOS Clarification
       Ludo found that the only way to get a clarification of the TOS rule about sharing chat logs is to snail-mail or fax the LL legal department. She'll draft a letter to offer to Vee and Wyn for their signatures.
    - SL Event Calender
       Karo & Beli will help get our events posted
 - Classes (RP & Admin)
    - Moira suggested doing the basic classes monthly, on a published schedule. Vee will set up a "Class" area in the website for class outlines.
    - There'll be a time slot on Tuesdays for Craft classes too.

 - Fall Gather
    - Keen for Anne (Fri Nov 21st)
       - Star is working on it. Would be run morning & afternoon to suit members from California to Scandinavia
       - John will do Gather & Keen posters
       - Might do a fishing contest
    - Gather (Sat Nov 22nd)
       - Moira, Star, others will plan
       - Discussed what time it is where; Germany is about 8 hours (depending on winter/summer times) from SLT so 9 AM SLT is a good time to start activities and hold meetings
    - Campfire Tales (Sun Nov 23rd) at 3:15
       Preceded by a Tithe RP at 2

T- Ortath's Telepathy HUD Icon Contest - update

T - River Quest - update and status check on new completers

 - Craftmaster Reports
    - Smithcraft Hall improvements
       - 7Seas Fishing - Expo build on Thuban, flaming flits & more prizes!
T      - Newcomer Location Quest - update on set up:

 - Weyr Baths semi-OOC club Tuesdays
    - Test run Tuesday went quite well
    - We'll see about recruiting a DJ and advertising

New Business:
 - Sunday RP Discussion
    - What can we do to make it more fun? Perhaps have themes like fishing, Healer work, Harpers, whatever
 - Sci-Fi Con
    - February this time, not adjacent to SL n'th Birthday. Theme appears to be Santorini, Greece. We'll find a way to fit in.


(T is for Table.. either no news or no one to talk about it)

Old Business:

 - Agenda - update, finalize
 - State of the Union
    - Finances
       - Thuban rent is paid, sims are covered.
    - Where is?? - Soo, Wyn, Jax
       - Some old members have been showing up, one who remembered Soo.
 - Vee's Scripting Projects:
T   - e-Hide Droppers
T   - Flame target on flying course
T   - Fall Scripting - adjustments to thread, Admin control
T   - Website
    - Realistic floating objects in Weyr baths (see Website)

 - Keen for Anne (November 21st)/Fall Gather/Tithe?
    - Hold it several times, for different time zones.
    - Star will organize it if we can find records of what we did in prior years.
    - Need to keep records of our events & doings.
    - Make it a LONG weekend: Friday the Keen; Saturday the Fall Gather Weekend; Sunday the Old-Timers' campfire tales.
    - And sometime, a formal Tithe from the Halls & Hold.
 - Documentation Brush up & Recruiting
    - Recruiting
       - Got three applicants yesterday, recruited by Ortath.
       - Discussed adding people to process applications. Star will join that team.
       - The improved notecards in the Dome should help a lot.
    - NC Brush up!
       - Moira's continuing to work on the Dome notecards. The Healers card is current.
T      - TOS Clarification
T      - SL Event Calender

 - Classes (RP & Admin)
    - Vee hasn't had time to work on the Admin class.
    - Colin did a "How to RP in Gianfar" class last week.
    - Moira will do "Gianfar is Different" Tuesday.
    - There are two threads on the Web site, under Gather Grounds: one listing classes and one for discussion about classes.
    - There's a scroll cabinet in the Harper Teachingmaster office for class outlines / teacher notes.
    - Want to be sure students don't think that reading a class outline without attending the class is enough.
 - Ortath's Telepathy HUD Icon Contest - update
    - Ludo offered the designs that she was working on, for others to finish. Star will hold them for her and give them as samples to anyone who'd like to work on them.

T - River Quest - update and status check on new completers

 - Craftmaster Reports
T   - Harper Hall Classes
    - Healer Hall
       - Tasha has been accepted as an Apprentice        
    - Smithcraft Hall improvements
       - 7Seas Fishing
          - 7Seas community Fishing Festival is Nov 14-17. Mist has the announcement NC. Applications to enter displays must be sbmitted by Nov 10. It's a tremendously well attended event. Good publicity for us if we could create a fishing site quickly.
T      - Newcomer Location Quest - update on set up:

 - Somehow, nothing came up.

New Business:

 - Weyr Baths semi-OOC club Tuesdays
    - (See Website: Forum / Prattle in the Peaks / Ideas & Projects / Games & RPs / Floating in the Baths) Vee's considering holding semi-OOC clothing-optional dancing there, after class time. Maybe with a DJ. Semi-OOC so we can have other-realm visitors, but be IC ourselves. Tuesdays because that doesn't compete with full-time clubs. Might do a trial run this Tuesday.
 - Ortath has a mesh dragon modded for Pern; needs animation, and work on rigging.

 - Calendar
    - OOC costume party in the Maze on Nov 3 in place of RP.
    - Turnover party around Christmas/New Year's time.
    - We need to recruit DJs quickly.

(T is for Table.. either no news or no one to talk about it)

Old Business:
 - Agenda - update, finalize
 - State of the Union
    - Finances
       Vee got paid! All tier is paid or covered, including HS's which are due on the 15th. So are upcoming bils for the website.
       Questions for Vee or Wyn can be sent to Mist on an NC with that in the title; and tell her it's coming as some NCs have strange names!
T   - Where is?? - Soo, Wyn, Jaxx
 - Vee's Scripting Projects:
T   - e-Hide Droppers
T   - Flame target on flying course
T   - Fall Scripting - adjustments to thread, Admin control
    - Vee modded the Dragonbreath flamer to make a Flitbreath flamer. This version doesn't burn anything (yet), it's just for show. It'll be installed in our custom prize flits.
    - Website maintenance
       Vee's list starts with changing the graphics
       No software change any time soon.
 - Documentation Brush up & Recruiting
    - NC Brush up!
        - Moira's Report
           "I am now moving on to reviewing the notecards in the Harper Hall scroll cabinet, and may be reaching out to various leads with questions, or to ask them to review the info regarding their area. I am hoping to be able to submit a set of notecards to Wordmaster Ludo to be installed in the scroll cabinet later this week." There was a suggestion that each official NC have the author's name & date written at the bottom, plus revision author/dates, to help with annual revisions.
           Ludo: "I have removed the scroll rack from the Harper Hall dining room and blocked the one in the Dragon Hall. When the new notecards come I'll put them in the scroll rack in the dragon hall. That way there's only one rack to update."  
        - Hold Task Lists
           Will be blocked until we have time to rewrite them. Good idea but not updated in 5 years or so.
T   - TOS Clarification
T   - SL Event Calender

 - Classes (RP & Admin) - Moira's Report
    - Star sent Moira what she has for some classes that she can do, and is writing up more.
    - There's a "How to RP in Gianfar" class outline that could be built up into a class. (see below)
    - We could use the 3:30 Tuesday time for RP classes if we have no IC classes ready.
    - Admin classes are still on hold.
T- Ortath's Telepathy HUD Icon Contest - update
      He needs three participants to hold a contest

T- River Quest - update and status check on new completers

 - Craftmaster Reports
    - Harper Hall Classes - Moira's Report
       "Just an informational item at this point, that I will be beginning research and then development of a new class series on the early history of Gianfar (based initially on the history buried in the web site, and supplemented with existing Harper Hall songs and other information gleaned from our elders)."
    - "Campfire Tales - November 23rd at 3:15 pm.
       I am particularly interested in any 'oral history' about our dragons, and in hearing about experiences of the first threadfall here after the long interval from a perspective of the weyr or other craft halls. If you have any names to suggest of people that would be good to interview for either of those areas, let me know so that we can encourage them to attend, or at least to submit their recollections on a notecard."
    - Perhaps we can build a display of our history so that we don't lose the information.
    - Ludo's new Bardic Circle
       Ludo found a circle with seats that have an applause animation. Very nice but no mod, no transfer. To be studied.
    - Smithcraft Hall improvements
       - 7Seas Fishing prizes - necklaces from Luna, flit flame from Vee. Everyone who donates prizes should also make up a NC to go with them with who the donor is and where their stores are and such.
    - Newcomer Location Quest
       - Mist has been working on hiding places for the Quest prizes.
       - We now have a Rift at the Welcome Center, a forge at Smithcraft.
       - Weavercraft furniture that was in a pile has been detangled.
       - Ludo and Luna have donated prizes. Mist is working on clothing for prizes.
    - Changes in the Weyr!
       S'ar is putting together a training program for weyrlings. We have one, she's adding detail.
    - Nude bathing in the weyr is 'canon' and fits SL Moderate rating. Soo's rule, from our earliest days: Nudity is permitted in the Weyr baths. Vee will discuss this with the Weyrwoman, whom someone hassled about the matter.

New Business:

 - Calendar
   - Keen for Anne (November 21st)/Fall
      Vee has found the script for last year's event. S'ar will develop a plan and clear it with Vee.
   - Upcoming events are on the Novi Peaks calendar.
   - Colin will do a class on "How to RP in Gianfar at 3:30 Tuesday.

T   - Gather/Tithe?
T   - Turnover

(T is for Table.. either no news or no one to talk about it)

Old Business:

 - State of the Union
    - Finances
       Thuban tier is paid for two weeks
    - Where is?? - Soo, Wyn, Jax
       No report
T- Vee's Scripting Projects:
    - e-Hide Droppers
    - Flame target on flying course
    - Fall Scripting - adjustments to thread, Admin control
 - Documentation Brush up & Recruiting
    - NC Brush up! - Welcome Center!
       New notecards are up. Welcome Center now has a sign pointing to Toureth. Application giver is now a scroll on the table and there's a scroll in the vase. Active notecard givers have hover text.
       There's now a thread on the Web site for the Welcome Center updates and for comments on the proposed new member check list.
       Discussed the perennial need to redesign the Web site.
       We now have a Tannercraft intro card; discussed whether it should go into the Welcome Center NC giver or the Harper Hall scroll case(s). Decided that only introductory NCs should be in the Welcome Center, specific ones like craft descriptions elsewhere such as the Harper Hall scroll case. Colin can update that object.
T   - TOS Clarification
T   - SL Event Calender

T  - Newcomer Location Quest - update on set up

T- Ortath's Telepathy HUD Icon Contest - update

  - River Quest - update and status check on new completers
     None. A fresh Notice to GPoP may be in order.

  - Craftmaster Reports
     - Classes? - blurbs needed!
        "Old timers' tales around a campfire" is postponed for a while. See below.
        Character Background class at 3:30 Tuesday, given by Star
        Mist needs blurbs to post, Star will provide one for the Background class. Mist also needs them about RP sessions, for the Events calendar.
        Discussed who's in charge of classes, now that Cynianne has a job that keeps her away a lot. Ludo will help anyone who wants to teach Harper classes.
  - Smithcraft Hall improvements
     - Haunted Maze!
        Maze is open. hunt prize is out, we're in the Hunt listing, Mist has seen a couple of folks up there. Maze has a TP to the center, and to the Welcome Center which has a TP to the maze.
     - Publicizing events
        Need to get quests into SL Events Calendar. Should have signs at entrances giving NCs describing quest.

  - Star would like to start a training class there. Weyrling training could be broken down into a series of classes.

New Business:

  - Calendar
    - OOC Halloween party Nov 2
    - Keen for Anne Nov 21, Star will "take point" on that. We usually have good attendance for that event.
    - Fall Gather maybe Sat Nov 22
    - Campfire tales Nov 23 3:15
    - Turnover

(T is for Table.. either no news or no one to talk about it)

Old Business:
 - State of the Union
    - Finances
       Tiers are paid.
    - Where is?? - Soo, Wyn, Jax
       No news.
 - Vee's Scripting Projects: (no updates)
    - e-Hide Droppers
    - Flame target on flying course
    - Fall Scripting - adjustments to thread, Admin control
 - Documentation Brush up & Recruiting
    - New application giver in Welcome Area
    - NC Brush up!
       - Proposed NCs at Welcome Center (Moira)
          How to Join
          Pern & Gianfar
          Roles Available
       - Proposed new member checklist
          Clothing (free in Welcome Center)
          Find some locations
          Scroll case in Harpers' Hall
          New Player Task List
          New Player Quest
          Interview with Vee
          Choose role
       - Those will be discussed in a new thread in the Web site
    - TOS Clarification (skipped)
    - SL Event Calendar
       - All our sims can be advertised on the calendar; now we need ads to post
       - For any event, write a blurb and toss it to the Herald on duty (currently Mist). She needs the help of writing those blurbs for the SL Events Calendar; anyone who has the time and capacity is welcome to donate both

T- Newcomer Location Quest - update on set up

 - Classes (RP & Admin)
    - Practice "Oldtimer Tales" session Tuesday 9/30 3:30 SLT
    - Star's RP class 10/7

T- Ortath's Telepathy HUD Icon Contest - update

T- River Quest - no new completers

  - Craftmaster Reports
     - Harper Hall Classes
        Remember the "Oldtimer Tales" event
        No Harper classes scheduled after that
        Moira has been documenting the classes so that someone else could teach them
     - Other possible classes: Healers (first aid, treating Threadscore, etc), other crafts
  - Smithcraft Hall improvements
     - 7Seas Fishing - more balloons! All colors of dragons, and a dolphin

 - Hatching occurred; needs to be written up for Web site
 - S'ar and Ortath were promoted

New Business:

 - Calendar
    - SL's Top Haunted Tour/OOC Halloween party
       Links to info & instructions are in Agenda notice for this meeting
       We don't believe in supernatural things... but this is OOC
       Mist has built a maze, 2500 m over Thuban... could have an OOC Halloween party there
       Will register that for the Tour    
    - Keen for Anne (November 21st)/Fall Gather/Tithe?
    - Turnover
    - Other ideas, please!, to Mist or to a meeting
    - How to shorten the meetings?
       Should we have committee meetings?
       Is 10 AM Sunday the best time for the general meeting?
       Do we need to have more than one general meeting?

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Title: Colin's meeting notes - book 10
Post by: Colin on November 09, 2014, 09:14:19 PM
[continued in book 11]


Apologies for absence: Mist is out sick, will probably be off for a few days, and when she comes back will have to cut back her time for a while.
 - State of the Union
    - Finances: Tier is covered.
    - The renter for Wyn's extra sim got back and has paid tier on it, so that sim will remain with the renter for now. The Lethe project is shelved.

 - OOC Classes (RP & Admin): "How to RP in Gianfar" Tuesday at 10 and 3:30 if we have teachers.  

 - Turn Over (Rukbatstice): The Weyr dining hall is all decorated, thanks to Kiy and company. DJ Selene will be coming. And that's the site for this afternoon's 2 PM RP.

 - Craftmaster Reports
    - Farmcraft Hall: We'll move the orchard and possibly the vineyards to Thuban. The vineyards would be on the slopes of the former volcano, "ideal vine-growing soil I'm told." Vee & Wyn have other plans for the mountains. Healers will remain on Kuma, and if we ever get Acuban back, Dolphinhold will remain on Kuma as well - although we might add a shipyard at Acuban.

 - Congratulations to new Weyrleader S'ar, Ortath's rider!
 - No word from Nekome about when that egg will hatch.
 - Weyr Baths semi-OOC club Tuesdays: We could have a DJ if folks turned up regularly. In any case, it's a good chance for relaxing.

New Business:
 - Let it Snow... Wyn & Vee will be coating the island today. But once the sims are wintered, do we want to turn off Fall? That's up to the Weyr. There'll be no Fall during the Turnover feast; IC, it'll be just a little too cold. But "live" Thread's a great draw for Pern fans, so we'll leave it running in Kuma. We could decide at the time whether to play it as Thread or dust (with possible lung congestion).


 - Hatching & Impression
    - Congratulations to Weyrlings Karo and Belith!

 - State of the Union
    - Finances
       - Next week's HS tier is covered, and Thuban's rent will be paid.
       - And we may have an extra sim. Wyn's been renting a HS sim, for cost, to a friend. Looks like the friend doesn't need it any more. So we're thinking of asking Wyrms if they'd like an HS version of Lethe. We couldn't save Lethe when we had the chance... and part of the logic behind Lethe was having a place outside Gianfar where we could play with other folks.

 - Housekeeping
    - Recruiting
       - One new applicant, Ian, who's read the books and has RP experience. He'll likely want to stay in the background for a while.

 - Turn Over
    - Scheduled for next Sunday, 2 PM, in the Weyr dining area. Selene has already said she would love to DJ for us.

 - OOC class this week: "Gianfar is Different"
 - Craftmaster Reports
    - Healer Hall
       - Rodney will be developing an ic/ooc class on dragon and flit care that Star can teach, though he plans to start it off.

 - Congratulations to Star and Rod on their promotions to Journeyman Weyr Healer and Master Dragon Healer.
 - Dragon Mealer's cave: the Weyr infirmary isn't big enough for a dragon, so the Dragon Healer asked for a large enough cave adjacent to it. Vee commented that "By design, the various RP venues all have excess space we can make over to other things. In this case, the cave next to the Infirmary was one." So S'ar has built a dragon infirmary there.
 - Nekometh may hatch an egg later this week.

New Business:
 - Pern Drinks
    - Ms. Kitty of KittyCat Creations, the infamous and long lived rp drink tray maker, was kind enough to rebuild the old Pern drink tray giver that Wyn had put out for us for the Gather into a new mesh: one prim, very nice. She would like to remove the book names from the drinks in the tray and make a new giver. She has asked us to come up with replacement names... some of them she already has on the list (attached to the Pre-Meeting Agenda notice) for examples. We can use our location names, characters here... whatever works for us... and she will make a new tray, use our names, and give us a copy for free as a thank you. Name suggestions should be notecarded to Mist by next weekend.  "Southern" can be used as a name. Vee thinks any common name can be used... we can't use Gianfar itself, but any Gianfar sim name, current or past, can be used.


News from the past week...
    Last week, Skylarian reported the loss of Lethe, the second sim of Isle of Wyrms, our parent group. "Just as Lyre was the birth of the Dragons of Pern group, so too, was Lethe, the birth of many of the original dragon riders, dragons and those that developed the presence of Pern in SL."
    On Sunday, a feast was held in front of Harper Hall. Rider S'ar was promoted to Journeyman Healer. She had been a Healer before she was Searched, and continued healing and teaching. Her Rider role comes first but she is entitled to have the Journeyman Healer shoulder knot. She was proclaimed Weyr Healer. Also, Master Rodney ("the man all dragons love") will be spending more time at the Weyr as Dragonhealer.
    During the feast a solemn toast was made in memory of K'tlyn, who went between in October.


Old Business:
 - State of the Union
    - Finances: Tier is covered. December's should be covered too.

 - Housekeeping
    - Documentation Brush up!
       - Suggested changes to New Player Checklist: more locations, whether people should have to find them on foot or boat, more flexibility about attending classes. Moira will be the contact, for now, for people who want to attend classes but can't fit into the regular schedule.
       - How about a Pern Book Club, with periodic discussions? Most of us love to talk about the books, and discussing them could help get new members involved. If someone's interested in hosting such a thing, contact Mist. Would be nice to have meetings in "American" and "European" time zones.  
    - Flit avi gift for folks to fly with? Ludo showed up as a wherry, an old av that could be the basis for one that visitors could wear if they wanted to fly, to see the place quickly and/or hover to take photos. It's based on the Library dragon, hence free. Could also be used by new members who didn't want to be human while waiting to qualify as dragons.

 - Fall Gather - debrief
    - Was much enjoyed. Definitely caused an uptick in visitors, post-Gather.
    - Could do two categories of "horse racing": one with everyone riding equivalent "horses" so that riding skill mattered most; one with a competition between horse makers, perhaps being evaluated on handling, appearance, ease of use - not just speed.
    - Could alternate runner racing with dragon racing, maybe in alternate months.
    - Maybe "do something, not *necessarily* on the same scale, in January."
    = Maybe do a First Harvest Gather, maybe around May Day.
 - Turnover
    - Dec 14 in the Weyr dining room; feast and DJ.
    - Mist will handle the change of seasons, Moira will handle the event.
 - Sci-fi Con
    - We're "bronze sponsors," get extra prims & space, have the tallest booth in the Red region. Also have some space in, well, space, if we'd like to replicate a Dawn Sister or something. And Vee's been volunteered for the transport commission, because of Ortath's dragons.
    - List of known exhibitors with website links (and yes ours is listed) here:
    - We have an event booked, too, on the Thursday evening. The Fairports will DJ, at their request. All Vee's promised is 'Pern, and dragons'. There might be a little Threadfall in there somewhere, we'll have to see.
    - We have plenty of time to work out the details. Apart from the Midnight Cabaret, we were the first event booked.
    - Mist and Vee joined the Milkyway Cabaret's chorus line. Anyone else who feels like entertaining drunken Klingons and Ewoks by jumping on a poseball is welcome to apply...
    - The theme of the con this year is like planets and destinations... they spun off a 5th Element luxe cruise ship kinda image.
    - They are also doing some low prim lounge areas this year that are themed to anniversaries in the genre that are happening this year.
    - Our tour dragons were a minor hit last year. This year, we'll have them integrated into the build from the beginning.
    - We're also down to participate in the sim-wide hunt.

 - Craftmaster Reports
    - Healer Hall: Two advancements to be celebrated in the afternoon RP session. No Threadfall. Dance afterward, with DJ, on the Gather square.      
    - Vee's Scripting Projects: She's adapting the dragoncourse so two dragons can race side by side.

 - Hatching! Next weekend; early because Beli can't be on after 2 PM SLT; so a single-egg Impression at 10 and a short meeting at 11:30.
 - Expect some unplanned multiday events to crop up. Elaya has dusted off some of the old events that were planned but never executed because the RP mix wasn't right. We'll get group wide notecards explaining what's going on and then people participate as they feel their characters would. There will also be some rebuilding and improvements.
 - Star has finished the weyrling training tasks and passed them to Elaya.
 - John has just retired M'thos from the Weyr. We've already picked a new Weyrleader... who will, Vee hopes, be the last one picked instead of RP'd by mating flight into the role... and we'll make it part of an RP in the very near future. Like, next day or so. But it may need to be done OOV - to be discussed later.


(No formal meeting. Notes from conversation about Gather:)

Gather was going well so far.

The keen for Anne were held three times to accommodate people in time zones from California to Scandinavia. It was a double keen, also for rider K'tlyn who died in RL last month.

Got good crowds for dancing and for 7Seas fishing competition which was well attended, though no one from Gianfar won.

The runner races were enough fun that we discussed keeping a race course marked in Tyl, perhaps with a temp-rezzer for runners, maybe a route that puts a premium on maneuvering.

One of our early players is back... name not disclosed in the meeting.

Discussed the tithing train RP, including the possibility that some of the common people could be ambivalent or hostile about it, not really understanding why they have to support the riders. At 2 PM today we'll see whether anyone takes up that idea.

"Campfire tales" is scheduled for 3 PM; some of us who've been around "forever" will share stories from the earlier days.

We need to document our history. Not everyone knows how we formed from Isle of Wyrms. Talarus Luan, co-creator of the original Thread (with Ryu Darragh), was at the runner races and not recognized.

Dragon racing will continue until 4 PM today, awards to be given out during closing dance - probably around 5 pm.

Planning for Turnover (winter Rukbat-stice) should start soon.

We should have a hatching soon, too; we have at least one rider/dragon pair waiting.

Old Business:

 - State of the Union
    - Finances: all good.
    - Where is??
       - Former Healer Kaitlyn Odigaunt passed Between last month, according to sources in the Isle of Wyrms. IoW's holding a memorial for her today: their Gameday today at noon -  Isle of Gazoo (201,211,42) - is in honour of Kait. They have a candle memorial at the cathedral which you can leave her a message. Sometime saturday for honor guard. If the Isles send notices, we can copy them here - to both GPoP and DoP which is technically the Isles affiliate group.

 - Documentation Brush up & Recruiting
    - Recruiting (no applicants this week)
    - Documentation Brush up!
    - The scroll rack in Harper Hall, Dragon Room is updated.
    - TOS Clarification: Ludo gave Vee the address of the LL lawyer who handles such questions.

 - Fall Gather - update
    - Ludo's been teaching people the ((Mikki Miles New Ensemble)) instruments: violin, lute, drums. She'll keep teaching people as she catches them so we can give impromptu performances at the gather.
    - Planning meeting time: Monday night and Tues morning, times to be announced.

 - Sci-fi Con
    - Fairports party: Red sim, Space Park venue, Thursday 26 Feb. Currently scheduled for 6pm, may get moved back to 8. Also, the Milky Way Cabaret is recruiting for dancers for its shows - which last year were original, fun, and involved some audience participation. If you know any other sims interested in joining (it's free), tell them to apply soon. Over 80% of the booths are signed up. They'd love to have more fantasy sims, they're a bit overloaded with sci-fi. The Pandoran sims will be there, maybe including a German Pandora. We'll be offering Ortath's dragon tours again.

 - Craftmaster Reports
    - Harper Hall
       - Ludo held a class Wednesday at 11 am but hadn't sent out the notice until Tuesday night because of illness, so attendance was low. She'll do it again next week.
       - It would help if apprentices would report once a week by notecard as they are supposed to.

New Business:
 - Dragon avis: Orlith & Ortath have been working on some from Dreamcrawlers. Vee really liked the one Orlith modded to near-Gianfar standard in about 5 mins while she watched. They have a long saurian neck like the art does. The best is, the legs and wings move smoothly, and the neck bends. Orlith added our prim horns and some prim eyes, and one of our hide textures, tinted green. The bad news is that they cost L$5000! But the kit comes with a lot of other items and scripting for an applier for other custom textures he makes & sells. Plus his own flamer. So Vee will ask him how much for just the body, and enough info to make straps work. And he can keep all the profits - Gianfar *can't* take a cut of dragon sales, or we become pay-to-play, which is explicitly against Anne's licence.
 - 7Seas fishing Festival runs thru tomorrow. Mist's build has had very nice comments from folks at the booth. Maybe we can find a way to keep it in Gianfar.
 - This week Mist will be building on the sims for the Fall Gather. The beach south of the Rest is gonna be a little bit of a mess.

The meeting officially ended at 11:52.

SL will be having many restarts this week. Server maintenance. Watch the Grid Status Reports and be ready to evacuate any sim on five minutes' notice.


(Tabled items omitted to save space)

Old Business:
 - State of the Union
    - Finances
       - All tiers are paid.
       - Homestead tiers due on the 15th are covered.
    - Where is?? - Soo, Wyn, Jax
       - Vee talked with BlueAgate last week.
 - Documentation Brush up & Recruiting
    - Monitors/Guides/on-line indicators for newcomers in the Welcome Center
       - Vee's working on that.

 - OOC Classes (RP & Admin)
    - Vee's resumed work on the RP Admin class again. (For those who tuned in late, this would be a class like her "RP Basics" but for would-be administrators of RP sites.)
 - 7Seas Fall Fishing Expo - Sheltered Docks and Welcome Center spruce up, build nears completion, prizes in cpg
    - Expo will open Thursday if enough people are set up by Wednesday night; official opening is Friday; runs through Monday.
    - Our booth is above Thuban; anyone may hang out there, fishers or not. There are dragon landing pads on the roof.
    - If it all works, there will even be threadfall.
    - Posters for the Expo are in Welcome Center & Sheltered Docks (under Seacraft Hall); there are teleports both ways between those places.
    - Vee provided "MiniThread," a version that can trigger nearby flits.

 - Fall Gather - locations, times, etc.
    - Planning meeting summary is attached to the Agenda NC.
    - Fairports are booked for 4-6 PM Sunday.
    - Vee's talking with Hwyl about kidnapping her Dolphin Club DJs and hosts for the weekend evenings: Fri-Sat 6 PM-midnight.  We'll still have daytime dancing here; hoping to get Karo's Australian friend for that.
    - Report from last week's planning meeting was attached to the Agenda.
    - Next planning meeting will be Monday, 9 AM, in S'ar's weyr.
    - Will discuss where to hold the Gather, perhaps in Tyl with visitors able to TP to Kuma to watch a Threadfall.
 - Groups Review and Discussion
    - We'd talked about stimulating RP on the island by having a group specifically for RP chat. Long discussion continued. We won't have new groups but might have a Subscribe-o-Matic type setup that would let people get notices or RP chat without using a Group slot.
    - The Dragons of Pern group predates not only Gianfar but even Soo, and is our official link to Isle of Wyrms. It gives the dragons the ability to speak telepathically. In the beginning, there was DoP, a subgroup of IoW, using IoW dragons to fly our old 'calamari' thread, with dummy riders. Then came Soo, Who bought the first sims and founded GPoP as the land- & RP-group. Then, Vee and the other owner(s) pruned us back to DoP, GPoP, GCoP, and added Novi Peaks (for renters). Later still, Elaya & Vee added Shaula Weyr group & moved the riders out, specifically so dragons & riders and other weyrfolk wouldn't be in the same group. Which is where we are today.
 - Further discussion about Groups will be pushed off to the Website.

 - Craftmaster Reports
    - Harper Hall
       - Ludo offered to run bardic circles occasionally, but not on weekends and not in the U.S. evening. Decided on 11 AM SLT Wednesdays.
 - Weyr Baths semi-OOC club Tuesdays
    - Looks as if we'll be installing dive poseballs.
    - If enough people turn up, Vee will get us a DJ.

New Business:

 - Calendar
    - Turnover (possibly to be nicknamed "Rukbatstice" as it couldn't be "Solstice"... just kidding)

 - John has five boxes of free animations. IM him if you want them.

Title: Re: Colin's meeting notes, this is book 11
Post by: Colin on December 21, 2014, 09:05:32 PM
[continued in book 12]

2015-02-01 (OOC)

Old Business:

 - State of the Union
    - Finances
       - Vee is between jobs again but with lots of interviews lined up.

    - Organizational Improvements
       - More Meetings?
          - Idea is to hold the OOC and RP meetings at more times so more people can get there.
          - Evenings are good for some.
          - Need not attend both Sunday-morning and evening sessions.
          - Few people are here weekday evenings except for Bath Night; maybe combine it with an OOC meeting? For anyone wanting to attend the meeting but not be in the baths, Vee will set up a repeater; or we could do it in group chat. Someone ought to take notes, as Colin's not likely to attend.
       - Marketing Brush up!
          - Calendar folks? The folks who were maintaining the calendar won't be in SL till March, so we need new volunteers. They'd need a group slot for Novi Peaks if they don't have it already. They'd work with whoever is doing classes or organizing RP to get notices out and to get events on the SL Events Calendar. They don't have to be on sim. We need to have someone who can make ads with the details - a bit of tech writing there. Moira will take the job, and we should have someone else as backup.
          - Proper notification of events; listings and notices guidelines: Our classes and stuff need to have notices going out at least one week in advance on our routine items, and if we can, more like two weeks in advance on our special events that are open to the public. This means they should be on the Google calendar, the SL Events Calendar (when that's appropriate) and they should ideally have a group notice that goes out like 15 - 10 mins prior then again at the start. A week or so ahead, and on the morning of the event, would be good... not essential, but good. We should maybe try advertising our events in other groups that allow it - IFT, RPC, Medi-Fantasy, etc - but that's another matter. We have to communicate things clearly and in a timely manner. (Case in point, today's event.) We could also really use a listing in the SL community RPs; Nekome may help with that.
       - Build plans & future developments
          - Suggestions: new builds having less wood, more glass & stone; skybroom trees; fewer open spaces.
          - John found an OpenSim "dragon tree" that looks a lot like skybroom.
       - Recruiting
          - New Recruits: voxcorvi and Ryland. And Sylvia applied during the meeting.

    - Sci-fi Con
       - Wyn's mostly done with her part. The ground level is complete depending on terraforming and land impact.... whether we can afford dolphins and flits. And she's just got the Red Star texture to add to the surround for the Yokohama and it will be complete other then sizing it to fit.
       - Do we want to be part of the Con hunt? It's on behalf of Relay for Life. Let Mist know if you'd like to coordinate making prizes for the Hunt or items for RFL sales.
       - The Milky Way Cabaret still needs dancers.

 - Craftmaster Reports
    - Smithcraft Hall
       - Mist is making new chairs for the Council table: one prim and multiple poses.

 - In Elaya's absence, Nekome is now deputy Weyr admin, OOC.
 - A brief reminder about ranks from Vee: "Pern's a surprisingly hierarchical society. Rank is important. And the Weyrleader, IC, outranks everyone. Including Craftmasters and the Lord Holder. Doesn't mean she can give them orders but she does get to go through doors first and suchlike. Holder comes next, Craftmasters third. This can get confusing with cross-crafting, and OOC ranks being different. But anyway, while we don't do the whole kowtowing & 'which fork do we use next' protocol stuff, do be aware of the rank of whoever you're talking to. The books make it clear there is an order of precedence - I think it's even stated in Dragonquest somewhere. Or Dragonsinger. The Oldtimers are very stuck on it.
 - On following the books: We'll make changes where appropriate for SL or our situation, like combining Smith & Miner crafts... as far as reasonable, though, let's stick to the 9th Pass books."

Today in RP (2 PM as usual):
 - Earthquake
    - Weyrleader S'ar reported that: at this time, because of the quakes, the Weyr has begun evacuations. Herd beasts have been moved (RP'd during the week) and they are down to essentials at this time. OOC, rental spaces can remain as is.
    - "The Weyr will be rebuilt, but this RP event isn't part of that. The rebuild may or may not affect rentals. The interior passages are definitely scheduled for a revamp, if not total replacement, and the mountaintops are probably the oldest 'temporary' build we've ever had. We'll never ask renters to pack up, unless we actually need to rebuild weyrs - and we'll give lots of notice in that event. The individual weyrs are way down the to-do list. Only the public weyrs - Queen's, Weyrleader's, Hatching Grounds - are on the potential rebuild list for now. Passageways are a priority, and other things may get moved around."
 - More Hatching
    - Because of the eggs on the sands and how they have hardened, hatching is imminent, At this time Weyrfolk are gathered at the Hatching Grounds waiting to be evacuated. They notice the eggs moving... looks as if hatching will take place unexpectedly.

2015-01-25 (RP)

Ortath showed a model of the Yokohama. The model's prim interior is 45x45, too large for our 35x35 Con parcel; if anyone has suggestions for cool space interiors - especially a more efficient interior less than 50 prims with cool features - for a sphere please let him know.

We discussed the shipwreck RP. The Weyr and Sea Craft were involved, with help from the dolphins to check below the water line of the wrecked ship. Survivors were treated by the Weyr's Healers; the ship's supplies were recovered as best they could be, and stored.

The flaming wine at Runner's Rest provided an excuse (or maybe it was a coincidence) to replace the tables with nice new ones.

We brainstormed ways to continue the shipwreck RP. Why was the ship there? Smugglers? People (perhaps renegades who stole a ship, perhaps loaded with rare wood and other valuable cargo) trying to escape from one mainland coast to another, and bumping into unexpected land? Perhaps carrying some sickness?

Ayla made a suggestion that blossomed. How about a volcanic eruption, preceded by  earthquakes? Perhaps triggered by the Red Star? If it occurred offshore it might raise new land. It could spread ash that could make parts of the island less inhabitable.
   We couldn't do a mass evacuation - the Hold alone has one to two thousand inhabitants, and most people live "out in the country." So we'd best limit the worst damage to one area. There are presumably outlying islands, probably lightly inhabited, where some people could find refuge.
   Coping with ash would be a major problem - it's very dangerous to breathe, airborne ash could block sunlight and hamper food growth, ash in the water would make it undrinkable for humans and unbreathable for fish. On the other hand, eventually it makes good fertilizer.
   The dolphins might well bring word of strange things happening in the ocean. Many of them left for warmer waters but we can assume that a few would be around to notice that the water around 'here' was strangely warm.
   We'll probably set up a Forum thread to plan this; and have tremors starting this week.

2015-01-18 (OOC)

Old Business:

 - Agenda Schedule (every other week OOC/RP topics and other innovations)
    - Weekday OOC meetings too? To be planned.
    - First RP Meeting
       - [Note: I hardly ever put exact quotations in this summary, but it seemed important to do so in this case. -Colin]
       - Vee's boundaries: "The RP meeting is for discussing current or planned RP. Which is a fuzzy area, but doesn't include rebooting the sims. That's a discussion for this meeting. And on that topic... I'm open to discussing a reboot, but there's a few preconditions: any rebuild must take less than a month, we must have new dragons first, and - the biggie - both the members and the owners have to agree. Until we have new dragons, and a few other build fixes, I won't be discussing it. I've had the reboot conversation before. Also, Wyn's less open to a reboot than I am. I'm not ruling it out - I just don't think we're anywhere near ready for that discussion yet." The discussion we're ready for is "what we need in new dragons. And, how to fix the build we have so it looks better. And how to keep people here and interested."
       - Ortath and Mist have prepared a wish list for specs for new dragons. Anyone who "does anything dragon" may IM Mist for a copy of the survey form. Ideas about firelizards should be included.
 - State of the Union
    - Finances
       - Homestead tiers have been paid, and full-sim tiers should be covered in two weeks.

 - Sci-fi Con
    - Ortath's dragon that will shuttle people to the Yokohama is available to test. We'll need to upload or invent a model of the ship.
    - Wyn's working on the ground end of the booth, which is going to be quite low prim.

 - Craftmaster Reports
    - Harper Hall
       - Classes are again being held on Tuesdays (having been skipped during the holidays).
    - Smithcraft Hall
       - New tables! Without pose balls! And sit poses for ladies in mesh dresses. Watch for them to show up in the Rest and anywhere else they're needed.
       - Vee will take a look at the Rest doors, which have been broken for a long time.
       - Walls and doors for the Harper Archivist's office are on Wyn's to-do list.
 - Snow & Fall?
    - Threadfall has resumed. Snowstorms have been turned off, at least on Shaula and Kuma.

New Business - none this week.

2015-01-11 (RP)

This was the first biweekly RP planning meeting.

The purposes of this meeting were to discuss our RP in both the topical sense, like the ship wreck and such, but also to start with, in a more general broad sense of.. what are we doing? and larger questions.

Attendees included Raziel, our newest recruit and builder, and Nekome, one of the founders and builders of Gianfar. Mist managed to keep the discussion from diverting to building.

Ortath is still waiting for people to make icons for his dragon-telepath HUD.

He has a working test of a tour dragon going between to a ship (for the Sci-Fi Convention) if anyone wants to ride it and comment.

He also has a dinosaur flyer avatar to use as a prey to attract dragon flyers to chase it.

He has the parts to make a version of snow that can be melted by dragon flame.

He reported that DreamCrawler hasn't been online so Ortath doesn't know when he will work more on this dragon. Whichever mesh dragon maker comes up with a saddle first will probably be of great interest to us.

The Dolphins have left for the cold season and will return when it warms.

The Weyr has been occupied with the snow removal and the shipwreck RP. They have two weyrlings, who have been given the complete training box to work on.

There's been an egg on the Sands for several weeks.

John discussed the question of separating administration from RP leadership; we tabled it for discussion when Vee is present.

Nekome brainstormed resetting the RP to just before the first Threadfall of this Pass, and having considerable separation between Hold and Weyr... parallel development of independent RP.

There was a LONG complex discussion of what we should do to appeal to Pern fans; for example, to bar female characters from being bronze riders or weyrleaders. There was a question of how far we could diverge from Soo's backstory and still call ourselves Gianfar (as she legally owns the name).

We came down to expressing informal opinions about three alternatives: keeping on with what we have now in terms of physical structure and organization; reset the RP, still in the 9th Pass, and continue; or reset and start from scratch.

Mist will confer with Vee, who will presumably be present for the next RP meeting in two weeks.


Old Business:

 - Meeting Schedule (CHANGED)
    - OOC & RP topics on alternate weeks starting next week.
    - OOC meetings on 1st & 3rd Sundays, RP on 2nd & 4th, Gathers on the 5th (March, May, August, November).
 - State of the Union
    - Finances
       - Full-sim tiers are paid
       - Thuban rent is due today and is covered
       - Homestead tiers are due on the 15th
    - Where is??
       - Wyn was right here

 - Housekeeping
    - Recruiting
       - Ian McDonald has joined
       - Raziel Starfall was recruited by Elaya as a consultant, to look over our build. (See below)

 - Sci-fi Con
    - Ground-level build will be a Weyr bowl, with a dragon in the bowl that takes visitors between and into the Yokohama (Ortath's adapted the tour dragons for that). The Red Star will be off-sim in the distance.
    - We might have a dragon flight course, and Threadfall, and a mountain.
    - The Pandoran sim will be visible from our parcel and will be very impressive. All parcels on that sim have been taken by Pandoran groups.

 - Pern Drinks
    - No new suggestions; Colin will go through chat logs and collect the suggestions made so far.

 - Craftmaster Reports
    - Harper Hall
       - Ludo will be away from SL for another month.
       - There will be music rehearsals Tuesday at 10 am, if we don't have anyone new show up for the RP class.
    - Smithcraft Hall
       - Vee's Scripting Projects:
          - Monitors/Guides/on-line indicators for newcomers in the Welcome Center: maybe this week.
          - Dragon course rescripting is in progress, and may be accompanied by new dragonstraps - which won't be required for the course.
 - Snow & Fall?
    - How long do we want to be snowed in? We'll probably have  snow this month and next with occasional thaws.
    - How much Fall should we have during this period? We are about the same latitude as Fort, but not continental so winters should not be so severe. Thread could easily fall in winter.
    - Technically, Thread shouldn't be viable while there's snow on the ground.  But we can overlook that if people want to keep flying Thread.
    - The Weyr has been RP'ing firestone training to help keep the main paths clear, and issuing shovels to the weyrlings.

New Business:
 - Build plans & future developments (MAJOR TOPIC)
    - We're building a new layer of Gianfar, "offshore" islands, at 3500m above the four sims.
    - All OOC functions including merchants and the maze will be up there.
    - We will all need to do a lot of prim clean-up at ground level.
    - Novi Peaks Mall will be rebuilt and advertised. There will be Gatcha booths and yard sale rentals.
    - There'll be an area for Gianfar-related fundraising stuff.
    - The Kuma build will include an event venue.


No formal agenda this week.
No meeting next week.
Possibly none the week after that, as Vee may be moving to her next contract. [although at the end of this meeting we planned one for Jan 4th]

Tiers are covered.

Mist is back, getting better.

Weyrleader S'ar will be here to RP with those who want to be here. After the Holidays, she will have a more formal schedule for the Weyr training and all.

Discussed the offer from Kitty, a long respected creator of things for RP sims, to make a drink tray with drinks named for Pern, such as Shaula Ale. She might like to make food trays too. We came up with some names after Turnover and are resuming the naming project. Perhaps we'll name some after founding members of Gianfar, as we did with Novi Peaks.

Mist is also interested in making other RP objects such as a draped animal that dragons could carry in their mouths... herdbeast food... and the like.

Fall Gather was generally agreed to have been the best event we've had in some time. Discussed making guidelines for event creators, based on what went right and wrong.

The website has a gallery where we could store pictures of our events. We'd need a way to organize them.

We spent some time rejoicing about how good a year it's been and how many good people have joined us, hitting the ground running. It's looking as if we could continue the growth spiral next year.

We need to work on getting more RP going and coming up with multi-week scenarios involving numbers of people and more parts of the island; and on getting Weyr applicants processed and active.

And speaking of projects, SciFiCon is coming at the end of February. We'll need to get going on that right after the holidays. We'll have more space (35x35 footprint) and the possibility of going 'into space' about 1200 meters... maybe a lounge in one of the Dawn Sisters! Maybe reached by a 'tour dragon' going Between, pausing inside a black sphere for that effect. So many ideas... but a 280-prim limit.

Vee and Mist would like to get Novi Peaks Mall active again. Wyn may be able to spend more time in SL.

Considered having the Sunday meetings move around as they used to, to acquaint people with different parts of the island. Considered having business meetings (open to all) and RP planning meetings (open to leads and RP admins) on alternate weeks. Decided to try that, with the first January meeting being open/OOC/business. We'll again try to keep more on topic to shorten the meetings.

A Pern movie's being discussed again. Still quite far down the road, no telling how or if it will develop. If it did, it would make us much more visible... to people who might have a very wrong idea of the stories. So we need to clean up the island, improve our socialization process, get ready for people who "know" how everything works.

We might also see if there are some long-dormant members who'd like to reactivate.

And so we wrapped up what was called 2014 in the Old Earth calendar.

Title: Colin's meeting notes - book 12
Post by: Colin on February 08, 2015, 08:22:00 PM
[Continued in book 13]

2015-04-05 (n/a)
No meeting: too many people expected to be absent for Easter.

2015-03-29 (OOC)

Finances: Tiers for the full sims just came due and are covered. HS and Thuban tiers should be covered, too.

Bad news:
 - Rhys is gone for a while, probably a long while.
 - Star (along with several others) is having RL conflicts and Internet issues.

Gather week:
 - Today
    - RP the Gather at or after 2:00
    - Looks as if the Holder will have to give a speech.
    - Party, IC, at 4:00 (we have a DJ) (and possible Threadfall)
    - Kyridel's birthday

 - Pern Day
    - Party will be OOC, sims will be General for the day.
    - We're planning to invite IoW and Pandora.
    - Maybe we can have DJs for 'early' and 'late' times.
    - Any day next week, Vee can only be sure of getting here after 6pm, 75% of the time.

 - Easter
    - Assuming that attendance will be low, we'll just leave games out, let folks make their own entertainment. No formal meeting.

 - RP after Easter: to be decided. Spring cleaning? Checking walls & boundaries, also looking for lost or drifted prims?

2015-03-22 (RP)

 - Mist will be out of RP for a bit.
 - Rhys will be out for a while, maybe in once a week.
 - Kykia will be around less for a while.
 - Cynianne ditto.
 - But Y'sa is back, with her dragon Tajalth.
 - Tried to sort out which dragon was paired with which rider at the moment.
 - Vee should be around from 6 pm most weekdays, CalTrain willing.
  - Saarith has about the same times, and will switch avs to fit whatever group is RP'ing.
 - Ryland comes in a lot, finds no one around.
 - Posting Notices about RP, as Y'sa and A'dri did last week, is a good idea.
 - M'ira and Saarith are now old enough to ask others into RP. They've developed quickly, which is how we do things - can't wait years as in the books.
 - HS tiers are paid; fulls are due next week.

RP planning:
 - Weyrleader S'ar has tasked Ryland with finding & blocking an underground spring that's flooding the lower caverns. He'll be working on that later today if anyone wants to join in. He was given several drudges and a watchwher to help with the excavation needed to shore up that leak.
 - In future, let's label IC notices as [IC] or something. With a note about who would see it, and where - like, posted on the Weyr notice board. And, if anyone wants to post RP logs (suitably cleaned up, please), mark those posts as [RP].
 - Rosie and Kyridel will be dragon & rider when they're ready. For now she's a Weyr drudge and he's a herder.
 - Ryland would like to set up a smithy. Wyn said there used to be one in Smithcraft Hall and could be again.
 - Ryland knows a lot about G&S, a system that involves collecting things that can be used to make things to use in RP: like tending fields to raise grain to feed beasts to be butchered for food and leather to make clothing. Vee has looked at such systems but they were specialized for other RP places. This is likely to get more attention here. A reference for the G&S system:
 - Nekome (Saarith) led an RP exercise: set up a scene, gave everyone 2 minutes to invent a character to act in it, then 10 minutes of RP. Theme was the Bar at the End of the Universe, from Hitchhiker's Guide. Much fun was had. We might do something like that in each RP meeting.
 - This afternoon's RP will be in the lower caverns of the Weyr, looking for and trying to stanch that spring.

Gather planning:
 - Looks as if we might have a birthday party after RP next Sunday, kicking off the Spring Gather.
 - Note that next Sunday is Palm Sunday so we may be missing some folks.
 - For the Gather, Vee will be setting out the latest iteration of the Egg Hunt, our contribution to Easter. Wyn will put out the Gather setting. What events? Runner races Wednesday, some time between 4 and 6 PM, and Sunday. Dragon course races.
 - It'd be nice to bring folk from Isle of Wyrms in on Pern Day, which was originally an IoW idea.

2015-03-15 (OOC)

This short meeting continued the discussion from last week.

Vee: "One thing I want to make clear... no matter what, these sims stay here. Oh, and tiers are up to date."

Focused first on leadership. Many of our leaders don't show up often, for one reason or another. Those who do aren't sure how much authority they have. That results in aimlessness, which causes new members to drift away. Thus we don't have people who might want to move into leadership positions... craftmasters and the like. And the spiral continues.

We need a good story; and planning for Pern Day is a good time to discuss that.

There are other Pern groups, one of which doesn't have a place to RP; we'll see if they'd be interested in joining us.

2015-03-08 (RP)

Threadfall has been adjusted for Daylight Saving Time.


Discussed the RP that was suggested before the SF Con - raiding the mainland for food for the Weyr. It needs further discussion.

The last of the snow and sea ice is melting. The seafolk from the wrecked ship are probably in the Hold, or in Dolphinhold, now that roads are open. The dolphins could start returning from warmer waters.

The Weyr is still short on supplies and still wet, ground is muddy from snowmelt. Weyrfolk are moving out of tents as the lower levels are cleaned out, and we'll probably have no natural disasters for a while.

Goal Statement:

Why are we here? What are we trying to do?

We could be a video game sim, dragons vs. Thread.

We could push the residences & rentals, to fund the sims, but then there'd be no RP.

We could be just a book club.

What we inherited from Soo is a sim intended to roleplay life on Pern in the early years of the Ninth Pass - the most popular books. Vee's goal has always been a functioning, believable, livable Pern roleplay. But what we were or have been is not what we are, and may not be what we want to be. We haven't enough people to maintain a functional structure.

What does "immersive" mean to us?
 - "I want to walk into the sims and 'be' on Pern... keep the OOC to a minimum, and try not to prescribe more boundaries than we have to."
 - "To me it is that we have a build and story that are contiguous.. self containing.. and that we don't have a lot of distracting white noise and dust bunnies."
 - "Mine is full rp, no OOC in any rp areas. a way of life story that carries itself with minor pushes from leadership in a setting that is all story oriented."
 - "Can't quite get away with no OOC, imo, RL has an annoying way of asserting itself... and if I was being technical I'd argue that immersive doesn't have to have a story, some of the best immersive RPs are freeform with no storyline - but we *are* a story sim, following a book story..."
 - "We're following a book story at a distance, living 'beside' it rather than violating copyright by living 'in' it. We're making our own stories in Anne's world."
 - "When I say "story" in my statement.. I mean Lore.. we have to have a backstory that is cohesive in itself and also congruent with the build. Right now we effectively have no back story and no lore. We direct folks to a web site that is horrible and almost impossible to use or find things on. We have lost so many players that the ones who *actually come to rp* have no idea what the story is, who we are and where we have been. Then we tell them to go talk to folks who never are on sim in order to make progress. None of this is functional."

We need to have people to make decisions, not leaders who haven't been here in a year. We need assurance that we can plan and do things without a leader suddenly reappearing and vetoing the work.

Do we want to 'reboot' with a new storyline, maybe a new build? Would that save or destroy the RP?

What do we do about dragons / saddles / flight scripts / Thread?

A rebuild takes very careful planning if it's to be done quickly.

The meeting ended in profound disagreements.

2015-03-01 (OOC)

Old Business:

 - State of the Union
    - Finances: Vee starts new job tomorrow; sims should be safe.

 - Sci-fi Con
    - RFL Sales (4450L +); dancing raised nearly L$4k; hoping to hit L$10k by end of Con.
    - Dragons were showing several hundred rides. Ortath's dragon tour of the Con keeps getting praised,
    - The cake that Mist, randy, Varth, Wyn, and Vee did for the Con competition is on the other side of the booth due west of ours. It won second prize despite randy/Varth having crashed three times while gathering the ingredients.

New Business:
 - Dragons
    - Griffyn is back, and has the models. they are all up in the mall to be looked at. Saarith has Gryffyn's list of what still needs to be done to get the new dragons out. Saarith is working with IOW for an animation set. But will need some help on scripting for the new hud, and someone to help with specific textures. (Ortath, if he has time, Vee, and Mist can help.)
    - These dragons will not be mesh, but they will be an improvement. Wyn told Vee that it's 'easy' to turn sculpted components into mesh and connect them. Mist says it's easy if you own the right gizmo. Vee has no idea about rigged mesh, which is where we'll need to end up Ariel's looking into it - but, one step at a time!
    - Animations are the big thing right now. Kiykia knows an animator who allegedly loves challenges. Vee has already asked if he can do a better flamethrower-holding animation. We will need to pay him and have clear rights to resale. We do need an animator. Everything else, we have on staff, or know people who can help. Including texturers.
 - New members
    - Rosie's been a Weyr drudge for a month. Kyridel is an Apprentice in Beastcraft.

Calendar Items
 - March 8th  - Daylight Savings Time, we lose an hour's sleep.
 - March 17th - St. Patrick's Day
 - March 29th - Gather Sunday, 5th Sunday of the quarter
 - April 1st  - Pern Day, Anne's birthday, we traditionally do something with IoW as it was their idea originally.
 - April 5th  - Easter Sunday

Since we have gather, Pern Day and Easter so close together, Vee suggests rolling them into one long event like Fall Gather.
 - Might have a firelizard egg hunt around the sims; Vee has the scripts from a couple of years ago. She gave a few people eggs to put out wherever they liked. Eggs were coded to wait a random time, go visible, and poof a random number of hours later... first person to touch a visible egg got their egg 'counted'. Because all the eggs poofed within a day or so, the game cleaned up after itself. Might give wearable firelizards as prizes. If there are prizes, must keep the egg hiders' identity and the time of hiding secret so that people can't follow the hiders around and camp on the egg locations.
 - We'll likely do runner races again as they were much enjoyed last fall.
 - Need to clean up skybox builds to have enough prim count. Kuma can't handle a Threadfall just now.
 - Mist will make a birthday cake for Anne. She's looking for a texture that would do for flit footprints around the cake, and bite marks of course.

Mist has to have uninterrupted time for building; can't do admin or RP and concentrate on building. She and Raz will set their autoresponders; please, if the response is "We're building," don't keep IM'ing them. If you need an admin and Mist is busy, ping Vee... until she appoints a Hold Headwoman, anyway. Her IM's go to Email and she can usually answer pretty quickly. If she's on autorespond she's usually either scripting or AFK, and will reply when she sees the IM.

Today in RP:
 - We'll be at the Con herding hatchies, possibly shooting some. There's a "Redshirts v. Stormtroopers" event. We're going to take it over (planned with the Con organizer) with hatchies as redshirts, trying to save one of their own who's been captured by the Empire. Once Lylia gets released - or all the hatchies are dead, whichever - we'll go party in the Space Park. The hatchies will assemble at 2pm on Limbo - that's a Wyrms sandbox sim - and head over to the con shortly thereafter. Vee thought we could best help truth, justice and the hatchie way by helping keep them in line and maybe volunteering as stormtroopers if necessary... plus, any excuse to get dragons to the con. :) We should be humans for the "shooty part," but have lots of dragons at the Con. We're the only dragon sim there, every dragon helps boost our visibility. There are other dragon sims, but as long as we're the only one there... we'll represent all of them. And maybe get our own sims better known.

2015-02-22 (RP)

The meeting was held in the SS Yokohama.

It looks as if Vee will have a job starting soon if all goes well, so the sims should be safe.

Vee wanted to bring up one other non-RP matter, just for thinking about... Mist's suggestion... would there be any interest in Gianfar having its own dance company and theatre, maybe using a Dawn Star set? It'd be one more way to get our name out.

Vee, Mist, and Wyn will be dancing in the cabaret at 6 pm. It's a high-lag area, leave your scripts home.

The Firefly Companions Guild was running a Space Cake Race at 1 PM today.

Apparently there wasn't much RP about the Weyr flooding. The Weyrleader reported that the Weyr is drying out and cracks are being patched up. The water system might have to be reworked. Other reconstruction ideas will come up at the OOC meeting.

RP suggestion for the Weyr: Raiding the mainland for food once (leaving a pouch of gems in exchange) might be workable. It would have to be done early in a morning and the raiders must not be detected (because they weren't, or Anne would have written about the strange incident). Also, individual dragon/rider trips could be made to Southern for whatever could be collected there.

SLSFC exhibit was getting good attention, maybe some recruits.

2015-02-15 (OOC)

Old Business:
 - State of the Union
    - Finances
       - Full sim tiers were paid yesterday. Homesteads will be billed today or tomorrow. Vee has more job interviews coming.

 - Sci-fi Con
    - "Sims are up. We grabbed our booth, which is now officially our 'exhibit', yesterday: Gianfar Peaks of Pern, Pern Sound (182, 255, 23).  For reference, 'space' level is 1000 to 1200, and there should be a build platform at 1100 left by the con builders."
    - Wyn has been setting up the ground level. She found an off sim rock reef that looks really good. Also she got the terraforming done. She also ran into an off-sim "moon" that could make a good Red Star. She'll be playing with that this afternoon. Vee and Mist - and possibly Wyn - will be dancing in the cabaret.
    - RFL sales
       - Mist is working on an RFL vendor for her collection of flits. They'll be in various non-Pern colors.
    - The dates will be put in the calendar.

New Business:
 - There are now grid teleport pads in all our OOC event locations. If folks land at Kuma Landing, there is a sign for the dance tonight and a TP pad to take them to it. Thanks to Raz & Mist for that. It also goes to the Harper classroom, the course on Etamin, Council Chambers, Welcome Center and Bath night.
 - And the party pier is now set up with 2 games! There is a pocket Greedy game (one need not sit at a table to play) and Cards Against Humanity in table form, 'cause that's how that comes. "Cards is fun :) Requires a warped mind... no, 3 warped minds." There are pool toys out up there too; couples' seating; the dance balls are there now; rings and mattresses and heart shaped couples floaties. And a rubber duckie and a dolphin, made during the meeting.
 - Vee's going to write up a notecard to plug our sims with. She'll stick it in a group notice and on the website for comments/suggestions.
 - We need to announce RP so that people can be thinking about it in advance. Could we create a Crier (like the Greeter that watches for non-members in the RP areas) to make current-events announcements to anyone who arrives in any of the sims? That would ensure that people wouldn't think the place is dead just because no one was around. The announcements should be dated so that people know they're getting "live" news.
 - Splitting the OOC and RP meetings, then repeating the OOC meeting, is making the meetings shorter as we'd hoped.

Today in RP:
 - The Thaw: all the snow at the lower elevations will melt, including some of the sea ice. The lower caves in the Weyr will flood, right after folk have moved back in! The lower caverns in the Hold will flood, and the Hold's food is stored down there! Ruined supplies will make for RP lssues later.

2015-02-08 (RP)

Did a post-mortem on the earthquake / hatching RP.
 - Stressful.  
 - Hard to get started.
 - Awesome!
 - A lot of fun.
 - "Too many thought they were there for a hatching rather than an evacuation... probably needed a seed plan of certain key players and what they will do."
 - Discussed how to recognize people for exemplary RP. We'll discuss that in detail next week.

What didn't work?
 - There was a lot of chaos at the beginning.
 - The transition between the earthquake and the hatching was difficult. So was getting people to pay attention to the earthquake.
 - "it worked out fine, but I do feel everyone should probably review proper RP technique, People who were "waiting in the hatching ground" were all using OOC info IC."
 - "Also, godmoding & auto-ing... we need to watch that. No telling other characters what to do."
 - "Both hatchlings did a great RP with the confusion of dealing with the evacuation. The blue's hatching was very suspenseful too."
 - Vee had to intervene at one point.
 - "The method of transport on an evacuation RP should be prearranged (as in just give coordinates or carry them) so we know how to RP it."

We need to be more afraid of dragons, especially hatchlings. "RP isn't about tea parties." "Pern was never a happy, sunny, green and flowers place. which is apparently an easy mode to fall into."
 - Do we need to add criminals and jails to make RP more exciting? What kind of punishment? For example, drudge work (the Weyr needs a lot of cleaning!).

So what will we do this week? Starting in the Thuban caves, Weyrfolk will clean up ash and fallen rock, and move back into the Weyr.

Next week, perhaps a sudden thaw resulting in flash floods.

There'll be a Valentine's Day dance on the 15th. It'll be an OOC event on one of the sky levels.

Still looking for a dragon we can use for fall/mating flights *and* RP.

Title: Colin's meeting notes - book 13
Post by: Colin on April 12, 2015, 07:36:02 PM
[continued in book 14]

2015-05-10 (OOC/RP)

Two RP meetings in a row will return us to our original plan of OOC on 1st and 3rd Sundays, RP on 2nd and 4th, Gather on the 5th (conveniently there's one of those each quarter).


Finances: HS tiers are due on the 15th and are covered.

"Sister sim" idea: Should come to a consensus what each sim expects - sharing events traffic and notices for events, and stuff like that. RP notices, probably; RP chat, definitely not. Some sort of prefix on Notice titles would be a good idea. We could prepare a notecard describing Gianfar and saying that Vee can post Notices to the other group.

 Star, Mist, and Vee are considering building a theater, to have a try at our own dance performance, along the lines of some of the acts at the Milky Way cabaret at the SL SF Con this year. Something dragon-related, and they thought about using a modified, possibly enlarged Yokohama as a theatre. Probably on the Shaula/Kuma border, definitely high up, and totally OOC. Jade has the basic stage given out at the first SL SF Con meeting - we could always customize that. The cabaret would definitely fall under the cross-sim notices category.

SL12B is asking for performances & demonstrations. We can do a Fall demo, but it'd hardly fill a 1-hour slot. What if we got together with other sims and organised a cycle of three or four demos? Could we get someone to animate dragons dancing? IoW's aren't participating directly but we could ask if some of their members would like to do a show of dancing dragons. If we can come up with ideas for a full hour, Vee will be happy to turn in an application. Because, surely a bunch of RPers can think up something that fills an hour with drama. Dance troupes actually have to cut their performances down to not overrun an hour. Vee doesn't think anyone's tried what she's proposing, not recently, except (iirc) when Antiquity did a demo pirate battle a few years back. Vee can't remember if they filled an hour or not but does remember it took a lot of setting up. Setup and teardown are part of the hour, 'cos you can't keep the next act waiting.

Teleports: Before the Valentine's dance, Vee suggested to Mist & Raz that we should have intersim teleports, specifically to get people up to the Shaula 3500 level from Kuma. She even scripted one of her own, but Raz found a commercially-available package we can modify. Rules for tp, dragon rides, etc, haven't changed: except for leaving the IC zone, players shouldn't use them without an RP reason. These are for visitors. We left the tps in place to see how long it'd be before anyone noticed... and we'd actually forgotten about them when Cyn noticed them and objected because they don't fit the decor. We do need teleporters for ooc events and the like, and they need to fit decor and be recognizable. She has built a monolith for that purpose. It's sculpt and prim, mod and easily resizable for the location. We need to somehow make them seem IC. Vee thought of calling them 'waypoints' and claiming they were some kind of markers the settlers put down during the first Interval, or something. Runners' routes? The 'fact' that some of them don't mark an obvious path just means we've moved things in two millennia. Vee wondered about putting the Weyr logo on the one or two that will be on Shaula, and/or Craft logos where appropriate... Fisher and/or Smith seem the likely candidates. The tp's were placed for places we might want visitors to go - except the one in the Council Chamber, which was here to see who noticed. So, classrooms, hatching grounds, elsewhere. And 3500, of course. Eventually, the mall, ballroom, etc. Landing and the Dome because they are where visitors land. They were laid out in a rush, mind, so suggestions for adding or removing places are welcome. But Vee stresses - they're for visitors, *except* for when we go OOC to, say, visit Wyn's Mall or have a party on 3500. Most players will have landmarks.

3500: Vee had an idea about getting there when that area's in use IC or semi-IC: she thinks she can script a boat to TP passengers to the docks.

Today is Vee's Rez Day! And several of the folks at the meeting have Rez Days this month or next. Possible party time.


We do want to rotate RP meetings; this should be the last one in the Council Chamber.

Two weeks ago, RP was at Harpers; one week ago, in the Weyr. We'll play in Healers this week, Mines next week (seeking firestone), then Fisher/Dolphin.

Mine RP: Zircon was an Apprentice Miner before she was Searched, so would be a good guide to the Mines if we can figure how to get her and her wheelchair up there. There must be a way to get heavy loads in and out of the Smithcraft/Minecraft hall, and the Mines. We might decide that there's "always been" some kind of freight elevator, powered by beasts of some sort, with major block and tackle. To be discussed further.

Next business meeting next week in the Council Chamber, next RP meeting week after next in Dolphin Hall.

2015-05-03 (RP)

Nekome is now available Fridays and Saturdays, but not Sundays. If you need her for RP, leave her a message, and suggest a time. She can't hang out here like she wants to, but she can get here by arrangement.

Karo and Belli will be back with us next week.

Jade is now authorized to announce Pandoran events in GPoP Notices, and once SL behaves Vee will be able to announce ours in their Notices. We'll see if we can make similar arrangements will other SF groups.

Wyn will be starting on the SL12B build 'soon.' Volunteer helpers welcome, of course.

Last Sunday, M'ira was promoted to Journeyman Harper, Cynianne to Master Harper, and Master Ludo relinquished the post of Wordmaster to Master Cynianne.

Suggestions for RP -
 - Rotate RP sites each week - Hold, Hall, Weyr - if we can come up with plots.
 - Develop more non-flying dragon/rider RP at the Weyr during threadfalls - coordinating firestone deliveries, checking for injured, ground crew stuff, etc. We'll try that this afternoon.
 - Develop NPC dragon Wings for sweep riders and watch dragons.
 - Rotate the RP meetings among Hold, Hall, and Weyr - perhaps in conjunction with rotating RP sessions. Let's put together a list of venues and locations for meetings. See if anyone has any suggestions. Then we can start a rota. We can always vary it for a good idea or a particular RP, doesn't need to be set in stone.
 - Having a firestone RP to replenish the Weyr's supply. We will set that up in today's RP: growing concern about the firestone supply, then next week collecting more. The earthquake may have revealed some firestone veins in the mines, and may have destroyed a firestone bunker in the Weyr: a problem and a matching opportunity.

Saarith and M'ira hope to be out at the Weyr Friday morning, around 7:30 am SLT. Others might drop in too.

2015-04-26 (OOC)

We've submitted our application for SL12B, which will occur June 21-28. The theme this year is "What Dreams May Come." We're hoping to have an island for dolphins and flits and dragons. About this time next month we'll learn whether our application was accepted; but we have to start building ASAP.

Parcel size is 32x32x75, including bounding boxes. No skyboxes, no floating signs - floating objects 'integral to the build' are ok', and, for the first time, none of the plywood skyscrapers we've all come to know & hate... And, 269 prims, no exceptions, must include temps in your count. Windlight allowed. Oh, and for us, the usual special rule: anything that says Gianfar or Pern anywhere on it had better include a disclaimer. All rights reserved, no infringement intended, refer to Anne's licence, etc...

Vee also asked for permission to have a dragon able to take a short flight between, since we can't do the Yokohama (no skyboxes, and out of our timeline). That flight Between was voted "favorite thing to do" at SL SF Con, and it would be nice to be able to have a dragon go somewhere (IoW? NCI?) and back. However, the SLB folks don't want teleporting so we're not likely to be able to do it.

There's to be a Harper ceremony during the 2 PM roleplay time; a Notice was published during the meeting.

Vee reported that "Full-sim tiers are due this week and are covered. Thuban's up to date."

We discussed the teleporters that were installed in February because the party was to be held at 3500 meters. We have them because we want people to visit 3500, the mall, and other areas (as they're completed). They need to be in theme, but obvious to visitors. The 'watch dragons' that shuttle between Hold, Harpers, and Weyr need to be moved but not removed; and no one should use them IC. This topic is to be revisited later.

We discussed having more interaction with other RP sites: attending one another's OOC events, perhaps working up to RP exchanges or people having characters in both sites. Not poaching but cooperative exchanges.

We have mesh builds at 3500 meters above all five sims (though there's land over Shaula only right now): "A whole extra archipelago to RP in - except, not usually for Gianfar RP. If we wanted to do cross-sim RP here, we can use that as a stage." It might be a good site for the Summer Gather on May 31. The build is intended to be handicapped-accessible; Zircon's been asked to check that in her wheelchair. The builds will be discussed further at the next OOC meeting.

2015-04-19 (RP)

Harpers are preparing for a table-walking.

All tiers are up to date.

No RP class today. Vee announced that she "may be less than usually available all this week, in fact, but IMs that scroll to my email will still be answered as quickly as I can manage."

Nekome/Saarith won't be around as much as usual; available evenings with advance notice.

Discussed what long-term RP plots we might create. Nothing generated excitement among the few people at the meeting. (Some people had RL commitments.)

Discussed what role Zircon might take, and whether that would be an RP topic. What could an ex-Miner, Searched but injured in the Impression earthquake, do?

Chatted about the less familiar stories and books, including "The Smallest Dragonboy" and "Ever the Twain."

Discussed what role Azdra might take; she's interested in dolphins.

Discovered some interest in Friday and Friday evening RP.

2015-04-12 (OOC)

New members today: Zircon, Delinny, and Azdra - all with considerable knowledge of Pern and RP experience.

Zircon, an apprentice miner, was Searched but didn't Impress; chose to stay in the Weyr; then was injured and uses a wheelchair.

Azdra has read most of the books, hasn't designed a character for Gianfar yet, might be interested in Dolphincraft.

Del proposes to be a jack-of-all-trades in the Weyr, having been born there (about 20 Turns ago) but not yet having settled on any one craft to follow.

Finances: FS tiers are paid, Thuban is paid, and HS tiers, due this week, are covered.

Banning: Discussed an incident that happened during last week's RP session. The person wasn't a griefer as such, but refused to leave and wasn't interested in joining.

Wyn found a site for flying gear that's not terribly expensive and has no zippers; she has LMs for both men's and women's versions. She also provided this link:
...but added, "But don't go nuts in the store as I'll be sending Novi to buy a bunch of stuff for the sim."

Upcoming events: Next SL Birthday party may be announced in the coming week.

Title: Colin's meeting notes, book 14
Post by: Colin on May 17, 2015, 08:35:37 PM
2015-06-14 (RP)

This meeting was held in front of Beastcraft Hall.

  Are good. Paid a month's rent for Thuban (usually we only pay 2 weeks).

  There's a beautiful pic of our site on the "front page" of our website!;sa=view;id=86
That used one of the viewer's filters; and our parcel's Windlight which looks much better than SL12B's; and "old" lighting, as "advanced" lighting lagged the viewer too much for pics.
  Vee's planning to finish up the scripting today, then she and Wyn will spend the next few days tweaking. The only missing bit is the dolphin ride... we have the dolphin, just have to script the ride.
  It'd be nice to have a short movie to stream at SL12B... anyone any good at machinima? We can always stream Orlith's production of a few years ago; we don't think it's been used since then. John might be able to help.

John's news:
  He worked a little bit on a website last week.

Weyr news:
  Nekome is advancing M'ira & Saarith to full adult, "and she dropped about <counts on fingers> a few thousand notecards Moira's been writing" on Vee.

Ademith's news:
  She and her brother have entered a castle in a contest. She'd like us to check it out. She'll post an LM tomorrow when the contest officially opens. There's a kiosk for voting. RFL donations are solicited. She'll be DJ'ing from the castle, 3-5 pm SLT Wednesday, with all tips going to RFL.

  Playing in Beastcraft area today, possibly a theme of some sickness spreading through the herds. Perhaps a variant of Moreta's Plague, brought up from Southern when the dragons went there to feed after the quake/flood. Our beasts could have lost any immunity they had to it in the hundreds of Turns since then, and the Plague might have mutated.
  Next week, in the Hold (perhaps that Hold, Crafts and Weyr are negotiating tithe, in the wake of whatever happens to the herds today).
  Week after next, in Shaula prepping for our SL12B performance. Maybe a Tithing Train event.

  Jaxx Marjeta was spotted inworld last week, might be coming back to SL. Old-timers will remember her as Lady Varian's steward and maker of meeting agendas.

2015-06-07 (OOC)

Finances: HS tier is due a week on Monday and is covered. Full sims tier for next month is covered. And Thuban tier should be covered.

    Booth: Pandora will be on the sim next to ours, with a gorgeous build which is almost fully installed. Our booth is about 2/3 done. Vee gave particular thanks to Ortath for getting the dragon to work just so. What we have so far is an island with a cave through it, and a dragon sitting outside. Visitors can ride the dragon (Rimeth), which takes off, flames some falling Thread, goes between (we have an oversize Red Star overhead doing double duty as hyperspace) and drops you off on top of the island. What we're working on now is a dive into the water and a dolphin-related installation, hopefully a dolphin ride. Also some skybroom trees and a stand of bamboo on one corner of the plot. We've yet to find a cliff diving animation so Vee is planning on messing with the dive poseball. Divers may hit the water a bit faster. There's a sign to guide them down to where the cliff hangs out far enough to make sure they land in the water. There should be enough room for dolphin avis to swim through the cave but not all the way around it.
    (One of the exhibitors Vee checked in for SL12B makes sounds, so she finally has the sound Thread makes.)
    Performance: Vee has figured out the camera control part. We can control the horizontal and the vertical. [A moment's pause for the wave of TV nostalgia to pass...] She's thinking a basic construction in 2 parts. A dragon-sized phantom sphere up in the dome, and a path-cut hollow cylinder at ground level, to project background. The booth Thread and Dragonfire will, with a slight change, work perfectly both for flaming the audience and for the flying Fall segment. We can project the Weyr and Pandora onto the ground screen. She even has a solution for the particle problem: there are so many particles around SL12B, that viewers may not rezz them properly. But we can back-project the actual flaming, so 'missing' flame particles won't be as obvious. Should work because we control the audience's cams.
    We didn't get our first choice of time and day. We got noon on the second Sunday, the 28th. And Vee's sure we can volunteer some Gianfarians to be Na'vi for ten minutes if Pandora is short-handed at that time. All our avatars will be on movers - poseballs that move. The movers will handle movement & animation, and keep us all synchronised... we'll just need to handle chat.
    And we have basically 2 weeks to get this straight.

Recruitment & advertising: ...join some of the RP metagroups and start trying to recruit players. Put out regular notices, that kind of thing. What normal RP sims do... And we need a common spiel - a notice and/or notecard that defines us to other RPers. And we should overhaul our welcome area and website. So Vee's looking for suggestions for groups to join; ideas or text for a notecard and/or notices; volunteers to help spread the word; ideas for the welcome area; ideas for the website (moving to Wordpress?); suggestions on how we can improve our application process.

Today's RP: This week, it's the Weyr's turn. We're short a number of Weyr people, but we do have one dragon joining us. That dragon needs to hatch, but will Impress an existing rider. So, maybe the "egg out of time" plot? Then we could have a solo Impression today. We could find the egg on the hatching grounds just about ready to hatch at the beginning of the RP. A mystery dragon could be sighted diving into & out of the hatching grounds while the Weyr is occupied with Fall. The mystery dragon could come in and leave during the Shaula Fall, and then the discovery and hatching could follow. We have all the weyrlings from the last hatching who are now taking turns at watch, so they might miss an experienced dragon sneaking in. And we know, OOC, that the 'timing dragons' know the Weyr very well. The Queen would probably not be threatened by the new egg: it s on HER hatching ground, therefore... it MUST be hers... maybe she's very protective, especially as it's ready to hatch? And dragons, even queens, are generally protective of all eggs.

2015-05-31 (OOC)

This being the 5th Sunday of the month, Ancient Tradition (months old!) decreed that we'd have a Gather. We had a short business meeting on the Gather square (in front of Harper Hall) while Wyn was setting up; no one was injured by flying booths.

Finances: Full sim tiers were paid on schedule. Some people owe Vee rent. HS tiers are due on the 15th.

SL12B: Starts on Sunday, June 21st. We have a booth, and Vee will get our parcel Monday. And we have a performance slot: noon on June 28th. Vee will want vict- err, volunteers for 7pm on June 26th (Friday)... teaching her class in the Auditorium. And last night she scripted the first stage of the camera controls we'll need for the performance. It works. :)

June 27th is John & Rodney's anniversary.

Gather planning: Kuma Threadfall will be disabled, Shaula will run normally. John discovered a poster announcing our Grand Opening Gather, years 'n years ago (september '08?); Cynianne captured a copy for the archives.

There were lots of SL (and Web in general) problems today.

Announcement from Mousie Ballyhoo (mouseplay): "NOTICE: to all who have made sit animations for petites and petite based avatars, please be aware that they [LL] have broken them, they "fixed" the petite sitting wrong <sadly> they made the issue worse, so if you are one of the unfortunate people forced to go fix multiple builds let me know please first; we got to figure out how." The problem is in the 'sit' position, which wasn't  designed to allow for petites;  It's putting the avatar at the proper height now, but because of the shorter legs, the legs fall through the seat.

2015-05-24 (RP)

This meeting was held under water in Etamin, to the delight of the dolphins and mers.

Tiers are paid. Next week's full tiers are covered.

And a business notice. Wyn & Vee have banned one SeanCarlucci7 for building 5 houses here at 2600m - one on each sim. One of the houses was 2100 prims total.

Party at 4 PM today for everyone with a birthday in May, including Demon Vee and John.

RP in Etamin at 2 PM, dolphin avs welcome. We might explore a wrecked ship; there's one on the ocean floor at the meeting site and one on the Firelizard Island beach. ("Just a reminder, like firelizards, dolphin characters are considered NPC and can be played by anyone who has a dolphin avatar. You can NPC a dolphin whatever craft your main is in. or whether your main is human or dragon. Full-time dolphins are expected to be in Fisher, but we haven't had one for a while.") We noted that Grendel's has a good dolphin av but that there are no realistic controls for swimming. Zircon tested an inexpensive dolphin av from the Marketplace. She reported that it didn't move well, "We need a vehicle type animation."  

Triggered by Azdra's Notice and NC, "A Day in Dolphin Hall," we discussed Healer / dolphin interactions. Do we define a Dolphinhealer role? Probably not as a specialty, as they know more about their bodies than we do. But there could be other interactions... see "Dolphins of Pern," remembering that unlike the mainlanders we didn't forget dolphins.

Upcoming meetings:
5/31: Gather (in the Council Room before Gather starts)
6/07: Business meeting (in the Weyr)
6/14: RP meeting (in Beastcraft)

2015-05-17 (OOC)

This meeting was held on the sandbar in front of Dolphin Hall. There is now a raft rezzer there, as well as ones beside Harpers and on the north shore of Etamin near the Tyl border, so one can go to and from Dolphin Hall with dry feet. .

   "HS tiers were paid last week, Thuban's up to date. Even the NCI and RPC ads are paid up. And full sim tier in 2 weeks should be covered."

Cross-sim RP:
   This would come under the semi-IC rules, btw, so as not to break Anne's rules.
   Azdra has been talking "with one of the Star Trek ship Captains and with Lady Varian (with Azdra as the go between) for rp between the groups. The thought and idea was brought up for them to visit here, playing guests on the ground...undercover but exploring...during Threadfall and/or 'flying the Gather Flags' and have them as guests." Cordova Marabana, their Colony Administrator, is a Pern fan.
   Vee: "*We* know about the Dawn Sisters. The North doesn't. We remember the history, we know we're colonists. That doesn't mean every drudge can name the ships or anything... but certainly the Harpers, the Hold and the Weyr leadership should know or have access to records about them. Also, older folk may remember we used to have a telescope in the top of the Dome."
   We'll have to be very careful to stay within Anne's limit of "no spaceships arriving." Which means the shuttles are out of sight and not mentioned, which plays into the Prime Directive.
   Be helpful if the away team has studied the mainland and doesn't realise Gianfar is different.    
   Do they know about Thread? If they're in orbit more than 6 hours, they'll *see* Thread. Didn't say they'd know what Thread is, just that they'd know we're being hit... and they'd see dragons in a scan for lifeforms, but maybe not *as* dragons or firebreathers... but as life forms of various sizes. Or sentient telepathic betweeners? (There is one race in the Federation that is fully telepathic/telekinetic, but there are only 4 people playing it.)
   If they land in the middle of a Fall, in a deserted area, dragons could rescue them... (if we have enough dragons at the time). Or if they land during a fall among the ground crews, we could curse then soundly while chasing them off.
   The firelizards would come as a surprise. :)
   In Star Trek TOS the away team lands at one village and assumes that's all there is.
   If they wanted to continue to play here they should be "us." And we have to stick to Anne's rules for our 'main' RP.
   Azdra will pass all that info along to Cordova.
   They like to RP at 2pm on Sundays, coincidentally.
SL12B performance
   Vee has "this image of a performance, something like a dance crossed with an RP. Opens with the audience getting flamed, then following a dragon & rider into a Fall. Flaming thread. Dragon gets injured, goes between (invisible sphere goes black), arrives in weyr. is inspected by healers, who direct dragon to healer hall. Dragon launches, goes between... but somehow misses, and arrives on Pandora. Dragon & rider pass out of story (such as it is), and something Pandoran ensues - a dance, a hunt... which in due course is interrupted by the arrival of an Away team. Also lost. Away team may beam back to ship or explore the planet, but finally they transport away, only something goes wrong, and we finish with away team and na'vi appearing before a surprised dragon & dolphin. I know, this makes no logical sense - these universes don't intersect and the timelines are centuries apart, technically :) But, was thinking it might give an audience a feel for the variety of RP in SL." ... "And how people of different sections of fantasy/sci fi lore can interact."
   Vee can script something to control viewer cam positions, much like what the Milky Way cabaret theatre in SL SF Con uses. And has figured out how to choreograph Thread.
   "The Pandoran section, and the Trek section, can be whatever their people feel is most dramatic & works best. The aim is to blow the audience's minds."
   "I think, technically, we can do this. But I'll need to put in an application by tomorrow to get a spot at SL12B. Doc let me have a preview tour of the auditorium there... We'd have a circular space 40m across and 30m high. On a sim boundary, it runs through the stage. Audience is 2 rows of seats on 2 levels, in an arc on one side. There's also a 'backstage' area on each 'wing'."
   "But, we have to propose 3 times & dates we should be able to perform on." Azdra's ST group and we think Pandora do their RP at 2 PM Sunday, conveniently. The Sundays in SL12B are June 21 & 28. Performing at 3 PM would give us time to gather.
   We ought to expect that no more than half the cast will show up for any rehearsal or performance... especially rehearsals. So, we'll plan it so no one performer is the key to anything. And, if we do it dance style, poseballs moved by scripts, we both keep lag down and make it easy for anyone with the right 'costume' to step in... ie. anyone with a dragon can be the dragon.
   "Na'vi are, well, big. If we could petite the humans a bit, this might actually come across. And, incidentally, bring us closer to the real scale of human to dragon." "In PHT humans have to be reduced in size, as the Pandoran's are not." "Anyway, that's just a thought, not essential. If we control cam position & direction, we can achieve a lot through illusion anyway. I'm thinking a temp hud rezzer for the audience." "A simple shape change to reduce height for us shouldn't be difficult, providing all of us have moddable shapes."

SL12B build
   Vee: "We'll hear soon if we get a booth - I'm hopeful we will. We've asked for a water parcel this time, the plan being a prim or mesh island with water caves under (for dolphins). But I spoke to Diana at SLB and also let them know we'd be OK with a land parcel, if we can get it terraformed. So, we need to start planning the thing.
   They won't give us any skybox space, so a between ride like we had at Sci-Fi Con is out.
   Wyn will be wanting volunteers to help. And it will all depend on if we're a water or land parcel. The build will probably be done on Thuban, so it needs to be ready for Wyn to move it to the site. But then we have 2 weeks to mess with it, according to where our plot is.
   Vee: "We should know next weekend. When I talked to Doc, they still hadn't got enough valid applications for all the land parcels, so I'm hopeful."

Rezday party
   Vee's rezday was last Sunday, and she "kinda missed it... so I've booked the Fairports for next Sunday, for a rezday party for any Gianfarian with a rezdate in May. (John and Shanna, for two.) Theme Demon... can't think why... I'm thinking to use 3500, and hold the party at 4, right after the 2pm RP."

   Azdra sponsors an RFL fundraising concert once a month. She has a weekly DJ gig, too. Both can be advertised in Gianfar notices.
   We've had a rule permitting notices about members' events or shops for a long time now, we should make more use of it. And these sims have a long history of supporting RFL - from before we went live, in fact, before Vee was even in SL.

   Wyn has cleaning up planned for Novi Peaks Mall this afternoon.
   There are out of date decor prims all over, stuff left out from past events on all levels. For example, Christmas decorations in the weyr dining room. Cyn proposed that if these things are copyable that they be returned, and if not, the owner be notified to pick them up or they will be returned by a specified date. (Obviously not legacy stuff.) And that this be part of all decorated events, known in advance. Plus just every day "oops forgot to take that when we left" stuff. We've been a little (actually a lot) lazy about cleaning up after an event. It would be good if those with land rights be observant on all levels. It's polite to send a note to inactive players and maybe more than one notice before returning something that is not copyable. But for the rest of us, a couple days notice would work. And helpful *links* to where the prims are would go a looong way. Some of us have hundreds of items out and not knowing where stuff is.
   Legacy items are a huge problem; almost the entire Weyr baths aren't deeded to Novi Peaks. Returning legacy items would mean huge rebuilding in some cases.
   Returning all our own stuff and putting back what ought to be back is a quick cleanup and gets lost items.
   In related news, Vee discovered someone has been camping out in the Weyr infirmary & using it as their personal dressing room - without cleaning up.
   Vee doesn't consider folk rezzing the odd prim to be a major issue - and most of our dressing-room types clean up after themselves. John: "It's the people rezzing houses in the middle of flight course that is the issue." Vee still remembers the intergalactic stargate that was rezzed on Shaula soon after she bought it.
   So a politely worded note with coordinates that says pick up your stuff you litterbug.
   When they belong to members Wyn usually sends them an IM telling them "I returned the lost in the mountains stuff" and what it was. Then she returns it.

TP monoliths
   Cyn presented the latest version of her teleporter-concealing monolith. It will be on the sand bar in front of Dolphin Hall for a while. It's full perm so people can do as they wish with it (or ask Cyn to) except to pass it full-perm.

   This afternoon, gathering firestone from a collapsed mine (with a class on making and texturing sculpties).
   Next Sunday, at Dolphins... followed by the rezday party.

Title: Colin's meeting notes (book 15)
Post by: Colin on June 28, 2015, 09:43:48 PM
2015-09-20 (business)

   Tier is paid up, ad boards are paid up, full tiers are due on the 28th and are covered.

   Star has returned after a sojourn in RL. She's planning to finish the story that she started in "Bronze Wall" in today's RP.

2015-09-13 (unofficial)

Vee cancelled the meeting (RL distraction) so attendance was low.

We've received two applications, an SL mother and daughter who'd eventually like to be rider and green dragon respectively.

2015-09-06 (OOC)

Finances: Tiers are paid on schedule.

Vee will be very busy in RL through at least next weekend.

Wyn has cleared Novi Peaks Mall from the skybox, leaving just Mousie's Family Store.

Weyr: Rodney has appointed Danny as his steward for the time being.


    HS tiers were paid on time, Full tiers will be due end of this week and are covered, Thuban is paid for, Vee will be paying the NCI adboards today, and we're also contributing to NCI's invite bot. We're surprisingly healthy, on paper.

    Star will be offline for a while... RL stuff.
    We won't be participating in next year's SL Science Fiction Convention.
    Pandora will be celebrating their fourth anniversary, and IoW their 10th, next summer.

    Wyn has decided to close the mall and move Griff's store to the building on the north shore of Kuma. That can be a gathering place for market RP (that we used to have) that could include real products. The other Novi Mall sellers have other stores elsewhere.

    Star asked Rodney to watch over the Weyr while she's on a secret mission to get info about meteorites, probably on the mainland. He intends to get started today with an RP that we can Notecard and hand to her when she returns. We'll need everyone to help out.

    Vee: "Thanks to scheduling, and our historically low core active membership, RP is pretty much grinding to a halt - again. Now, what Wyn and I have always said, stands. These sims remain, as long as we can pay for them. Unlike most other RP sims, we won't close if no-one comes - we'll wait it out, like the last, idk, half-dozen times. But... I'm thinking it might be time to try a big recruiting event. Also, need someone to test this, but... one of my alts, not adult-verified, was able to search for Pern and find us. Hoping that means we can post events & stuff with Pern in the description. But haven't dared try it yet. So, my question or request... what can we do to stage an event, some sort of open day, say? Something that might attract visitors, and hopefully players?"  Rodney will try to oil the RP gears. maybe an idea for open house will come from that.

    Vee just did a cleanup on all the sims Friday; someone had rezzed a bunch of swing sets on Tyl. And Wyn went over there during the meeting to check on visitors and return a house (in pieces).

New member:
    Our latest applicant is Viola (Roxi Rembrandt), an experienced roleplayer from the Australian time zone. We had a couple of members from that area a few years ago, if they're still reading our news perhaps we could get something going.

2015-08-16 (OOC)

NCI has gained a sim, but had a really major griefing incident and may be disrupted for some time. Most of the meeting was spent waiting for news flashes. No Gianfar business discussed.

2015-08-09 (RP)

txep'ongokx (Jade) attended the meeting, so those who were worried by John's Notice can stand down from yellow alert.

Apprentice Miner Zircon showed a meteorite that Smithcraft had sliced in two and polished to show the interior structure.  

Only Vee, Jade, Zircon, and Colin attended the meeting. With John, Nekome, and Ortath unable to attend, and Moira only every other week, it may be time to reschedule.

Vee reported that our finances continue fine. She starts her new job Monday week and probably won't be around much until then, and maybe for a week or so after.

We discussed how to shorten business meetings, at least, by keeping the discussion on topic and perhaps limiting the time allowed for each topic. RP meetings may or may not benefit from more structure but need to be kept on whatever the topic is.

As four people were far from a quorum, we decided to use this afternoon's RP time to discuss, and maybe do some,  RP planning.

2015-08-02 (OOC)

   Full sims were paid on time last week, Thuban was paid today, HS tiers for the 15th are covered. Rents are due. And all the ad boards are up to date.

Vee's news:
   Changing jobs again, later this month. Working for the same consultancy at a different client.

OOC admin stuff:
   Wyn and Vee have an open-build policy on Gianfar, deliberately. They also have a don't-ban-unless-you have-to, and expect to be told if people are banned. A couple of times recently, that hasn't happened. People were banned for building where they shouldn't, without being warned and, in at least one case, without letting Wyn and Vee know. So Vee's going to put the Guardian rules down on a notecard, and on the website, in public.
   Regarding applications, the idea here is that an applicant drops a notecard in the hide dropper, and a recruiter (usually Colin!) reviews it & adds them to group. But we've had a few cases of people being added to GPoP without dropping notecards. And Vee realised that's because all the GPoP guardians have 'Add' abilities. So, after consulting with Wyn, she's revoked that power. Only Recruiters can now add new members. (Guardians can be Recruiters, of course.)
   But having said that, it occurred to Vee that sometimes a potential applicant might turn into a convert if they could 'listen in' for a while, and get to know us. Since Vee can download our member lists, it's actually not hard to keep track of who's been added recently and who hasn't. ("OK, for a coding geek, it's not hard.") "So I'm wondering... if I throw something together for tracking new additions, how about we add interested players, and if they don't drop an app in, say, 2 weeks, we drop them? I'd still want the Recruiters to be the only group with add member abilities, mind. But there'd then be 2 sorts of Recruiter - those with the Add power, and those who can read the notecards in the dropper. OK, not that we have a huge membership, but I want to write the code and let everyone have a chance to comment before moving on that."

Breakfast club:
   Helping Haven (another learning center in SL; if Zircon remembers correctly it is/was one of the approved mentor groups) posts a notice every Sunday about the breakfast club. It's two hours every Sunday morning from 8 am - 10 am SLT. And it's a traveling breakfast; they visit places where they've been invited. Today's was well attended - maybe 12 or 14 persons. They had singers, who brought their own instruments, but dance balls may have been provided by the venue. So possibly an entertainer would need build abilities.
   Might we invite them here? Vee's heard of them. She has no objection beyond, '8am'. We have the space - the Weyr or 3500. Wyn's usually up & inworld then, she has her amazing dance HUD. (Vee checked and Wyn approved.) Jade gave Vee the invitation she'd received to this morning's breakfast. It will expose us to visitors (a.k.a. potential members). Jade suggested that at least one regular member of the group be present, to answer questions if visitors have them; Star would be glad to help if the event's in the Weyr. If it's held in the Weyr or in the Gather grounds (dance floor) in Kuma, it'd be interrupted by Threadfall - perhaps an added attraction. We might put out an information kiosk for visitors who were curious but didn't want to ask.

Wayfarer's stones:
   Jade found some stone pillars in her Inventory that could make good landmarks. They have several shapes, with a hole in the top - looking like a needle.

Additional RP times:
   John, Ademith, M'thos and R'iss have been scheduling some RP times. They might join the Saturday morning RPs. John's days off are Thursday and Friday, but he doesn't start work till 10 AM SLT. So he expects to be here Thursday evenings, Friday mornings, and early Saturday mornings.

Meteor rocks:
Vee created something in Etamin which drops randomly sized & rotated meteor rocks around the sim. As it stands now, you touch the rocks and they tell you you found them if you're close enough, but that's about all... but she was working on a HUD dolphins could use to 'scan' for rocks. They just tell you if the rock is near or far, and ahead, left, right or behind ...and make the rocks glow for a few seconds. And thinking, well, the rocks could be made to temp-attach to whoever 'finds' them. So they could be 'dropped' on a pile, which could count how many rocks were found by who(m), possibly by volume of rock. Using Zircon's sculpties, btw. Thanks. :) Of course, anyone could cheat by doing an area search or having a dolphin carry a rock or something. This is for roleplay, not competition, as it stands.

Today's and next week's RP:
   Several bags of rocks were gathered and the big one has been delivered. Presently we're waiting to know the results of the Smithcraft's analyses of the rocks,  maybe doing some infighting on the split and how. Some of the divers and gatherers did a little "high grading" (filtching).

2015/07/26 (RP)

This week, we met in the Smithcraft classroom high in the mountains of Tyl.

   FS tier is due Friday and is covered. Thuban is up to date. Vee checked our ad boards this morning and they're good for 2 weeks. So all's well.

People notes:
   John now has a good job, but the work hours - noon to 8:30 PM Central time Sat thru Wed - will keep him from attending RP and meetings.
   M'ira will be out of town the next two Sundays.

IoW Festival:
   Looks as if we and Avilion will be helping out with the next Isle of Wyrms 10th anniversary festival, mid-November. (The anniversary is actually in February.) As IoW is a non-roleplaying dragon-loving group, they'd like to have dragon races, dragon jousts, and Threadfall. We can do dragon races, might have a jousting system in Novi's inventory. Their Limbo sim is a sandbox, so setting up a Threadfall there should be fairly easy.
   Noted in passing: We can't have dragons wearing riding straps so that the riders could just get on. LL doesn't allow one to sit on an attachment; that was used for griefing in early SL. Saddles are basically vehicles, not wearables. The closest you can do to a sittable wearable is a worn follower - an attachment that tries to follow another avatar. But they're always jerky. But newer prim followers are using keyframes because they're smoother; maybe Vee can do something with that. It's actually the sim that causes the jerkiness - it ends up getting dozens of updates from the object and has to recalculate the position of the avatar, then hand it off to the viewers, who have to recalculate the animation effects. It's amazing that 'following' can work at all, says this non-scripter.
   Noted in passing: Vee has no problem with advertising Novi Mall shops - or any player-owned business, incidentally - in our groups. As long as we don't get spammy, and as long as it doesn't interfere with the RP or lag Thread. And anything that brings in more income for the sims is good.

Coming events:
   August has 5 Sundays so we'll have our quarterly Gather on the 5th one. Anne's memorial will be Saturday, Nov 21, the weekend after the planned IoW festival.

   Zircon has provided some meteorite-textured rocks. Textures are no-copy.
   Last week we recovered not only handfuls of small meteorites, but also - thanks to a dolphin, two dragons, and Vee's breath-holding HUD - raised a largish one and got it to Smithcraft. Now what? Once we know what's in them, we can have a fully-informed squabble over who gets what percent of the finds. Maybe Vee could make something that randomly rezzes meteorites on the seafloor, and there could be a non-RP game of scoring by finding and touching them. Zircon, our Apprentice Miner (and RL rockhound), can assay them. We might discover fragments of earlier falls with different composition.
      Today's RP: People gathering smaller rocks; maybe getting caught in a Threadfall; Smiths assaying samples; Hold, Hall, and Weyr arguing over who gets what and what Tithe means in this context. We'll start at the Four Corners area of Etamin.

2015-07-19 (OOC)

This week we met on the sea floor in Etamin, site of last week's RP of a meteorite shower.

   HS tiers were paid on time. FS tiers are due in a week and are covered. And Thuban is paid through the end of the month.

   Vee: "Apart from congratulating our wonderful builders - and totally agreeing with Jade! [that it was fun and inspiring] - we seem to have received a certain amount of attention on blogs and newsletters. One was 'see this before SLB closes!', one was a tour of SLB that said nice things about our ride, iirc...I think that's a first for us... I'd like to document it. So, if you happen to spot a blog or anything that mentions us at SL12B - good or bad - please either drop a nc on me or post it on the website..."
   Jade: "[Pandora] got two new members this week as a direcct result of our exhibit."

Meeting times, calendar
   Our Google calendar doesn't actually reflect what we're doing.
   Vee would like to give this meeting a second timeslot.
   Vee: "A few weeks ago, folk stopped turning up to bath night, and for the last couple of weeks, even I haven't turned up for it. I think, if nobody's that interested in it, I'll turn that into some sort of office hours crossed with RP for anyone who feels like it." She might move that around, in or out of Gianfar, from week to week.
   We have a calendar entry for a Weyr meeting on Thursday night, but it's not being held so Vee will drop it from the calendar. We'll try scheduling Weyr RP for 7 AM SLT Fridays.
   Anyone can add something to the calendar (if you have a Google or other calendar), just send an invite to

   Moira hasn't been able to teach classes for a while, due to RL pressure. We have someone interested in becoming a Harper but Cynianne is tied up in RL; GrannyZo will mentor Harpers, including M'ira who may want to work toward Mastery. (Vee: "A weyrwoman who is also a master Harper... has possibilities...") Zircon and Liriel are active contacts for Harpers.
   Star has a class on drum code (Morse Code) if anyone would like to teach it. We still have the drum-code translators, it would be interesting to use them in RP. Harpers wearing the translators would receive the drum messages. others would only hear the drums (if they had Sound turned on).
   Scheduled classes have had little attendance; perhaps we should hold them on request.

Meteor rocks
   Zircon is working on a texture.
   Weyrfolk have been collecting meteor fragments in the shallows. Dolphins would find many of the fragments in deeper water. Fishers will need to provide boats, lines, and nets for retrieval from there. The Smiths will have to smelt the ore (if they can, at our technology level), figure out what's in it, and discover what they can do with it. Healers would need to deal with problems like exhaustion and cut hands. Traders would find a market for small metal objects like buckles. Harpers would be keeping records of everything. How could divers stay down long enough to attach nets to large pieces? Could we make anything like air masks and hoses? Stay tuned...

Breath HUD
   The HUD that Vee distributed last week is an RP tool - it shows you that you've run out of air, how you react is for you to play.

2015-07-12 (RP)

We discussed how to generate RP ideas. At the end of last week's RP session, Mishla had suggested a number of topics. We agreed that assembling a full NC of ideas might help, so long as we didn't feel limited to using just those ideas.

"We could start a thread on the forums, for now. Somewhere for people to drop ideas. Then filter out the ideas we like into a shared notecard or something."

S'ar and M'ira will collect ideas and compile them into a Notecard which could then be posted to the website.

Something like this: a meteorite falls into the sea. We need to find it (fishers for boats, dolphins to help search), examine it (dolphin sonar saying it's not rock), figure how to get it to shore (fishers' cables and nets, dolphins to help attach them, dragons to lift/drag). Then smithcraft to examine it, find it's nickel-iron, great joy all around. A miner (Zircon) could show the dolphins a meteor sample to say that "this is the kind of rock we'd really love to find."

We discussed how many of us are how familiar with dolphins' speech. Seemed probable that the Fishercraft would be experienced 'tuning their ears' to it.

We discussed how we'd react to a meteor shower. There'd likely be more of them dragged along with the Red Star. Firelizards on their island in Etamin would likely be startled when something exploded in the sky and showered hot fragments across the bay. All 'our' firelizards would pick up on that alarm, and the dragons that hadn't been flying at the time would catch that along with thoughts from whoever'd been flying Sweep. Dragons have short memories so this might be new to them; miners would know about strange pieces of metal falling from the sky.

2015-07-05 (OOC)

No official meeting, as Vee and Wyn were both absent.

Discussed the Russian folks who keep showing up in our sims and sometimes leaving objects that have to be returned. John tried sending the current bunch a "this is not a public sandbox" message in Russian. They ignored that. M'thos ejected them from Shaula, they moved to Thuban. Guardians can ban from Regions; I banned today's three from Thuban, found no one below 4086m anywhere but in Kuma at the meeting. By the end of the meeting three more Russians (alts?) were found in Tyl.

Discussed the SL12B show: "It happened, and folks actually seemed to enjoy it," Kudos to the Starfleet and Pandoran groups for exceptional off-the-cuff RP.

Tried to come up with an RP plot for the afternoon. We'd thought of doing a scene in the Hold, as part of the program to play in every site on the island, but no one could come up with a theme. It was a day for being disorganized.

2015-06-28 (RP)

    Lacking time to finish preparing our planned presentation, we decided to do "some sort of short crossover RP between our 3 groups, and then morph into a 'meet the communities' chat about roleplay."
    Members of Gianfar, Starfleet, and Pandora kicked ideas around.
    How would we end up in the same place/time? Starfleet could have a holodeck malfunction, Pernese a Rift accident or dragon confusion, "na'vi can just assume it's a weird tree thing."
    What would we do? Pernese and Starfleet wondering where we were... Pernese and Pandorans surely wondering why these uniformed strangers were talking into little boxes... some Pandorans ready to shoot first and not bother asking questions. Beyond that it was classic "drop your character into a situation and act accordingly."

Regions full... massive lag... stage setup slow... audience maybe a dozen... "could have been worse." We did have three RP groups from different universes playing together.

Title: Colin's meeting notes (book 16)
Post by: Colin on October 18, 2015, 07:32:01 PM
2015-12-27 (unofficial business)

Several of us gathered, and the discussion got around to doing a Turnover event next weekend. It'll be during the RP time slot (2-4 PM) next Sunday. We'll have dancing (possibly a DJ), socializing, probably Harper songs, whatever else anyone comes up with; and the race course will be available in Tyl for foot or runner races. Friends from outside Gianfar will be welcome, under the Visitor rules posted on our Web site.

This afternoon, after the 3 PM Threadfall, Teachmaster Simile plans to hold a class on using the SingEZ HUD to sing / lecture / read stories / whatever.

2015-12-20 (RP)

This was an unofficial meeting but it gathered more people that our official ones, largely because of the sudden influx of new members. The afternoon's RP session may focus on everyone getting to know everyone else. Here are the most recent members:

Lofty is a Web designer, game designer, and builder (especially of furniture). I mentioned our long-standing gripes about the chairs in the Council Chamber, and ten minutes later she'd created a "Functionally Identical Chair" with a 'sit' script and no poseball. I've put a copy at the hallway end of the conference table for folks to examine. It has just the default 'sit' pose but of course could have a menu of poses. Her available times during the work week are roughly 6 PM to 3 AM SLT. She's read three of the books, some years ago.

Bodkin was referred to us by someone from IoW. Plays a dragon in Uhre and a whale elsewhere. "Work hours are nuts" (how well we know about that!) so may be an occasional visitor.

Suzie is about to start reading the books. She's done a lot of RP both before and in SL. She lives in GMT so may have trouble fitting to our time (but might join with Dezy and R'iss to be a European contingent?). She's like to start in a humble role, perhaps fishing or apprentice in Healing, and see what she fits into.

Fayleen has read all the books many times. She's RP'd frequently. She originally applied last year but was grabbed by RL and is just coming back. She's not sure what role she'd prefer - holder, harper, dragon rider, and so forth.

Ian is Fayleen's SL partner, has read some of the books, has some RP experience, might be interested in Harper or Smith roles.

2015-12-13 (business)

   Are still good, tier on the 15th will be covered.

   Star will be missing for a while; dead PC and moving. Vesi's likely to be off until after Christmas. Jayce will be visiting family for Christmas week and may not have much SL access. John will be here more, for personal reasons.
   Vee has "been messing with Tyl's greeter again. Very soon, those who try to build houses there will be in for a nasty surprise." And there was rejoicing.

   New members Fayleen and Ian are looking for people to RP with, weekdays 3-6 PM SLT.

SL SF Con:
   News from Vee: "
This Sim (18,96,469)
- this is where the sci-fi con's convention map is... off to the side is a 'chalet' with an Xmas tree. Look around the tree for presents, a new one every day. The tree is kinda interesting, too. ;)"

2015-12-06 (RP)

   ... are good, Vee paid up our ads at NCI, RPC and WoRP last week. Next sim tier is the HS's on the 15th, still covered. And Vee has interviewS tomorrow.

New member:
   Fayleen Bellios joined Friday. She's read all the books many times, has RP experience, hasn't settled on a role.

   We seem to have settled on January 3, which is also Rodney's rezday, subject to seeing how everyone's doing.

Possible classes:
   Jayce created a good looking green dragon, and might be "volunteered" to teach a class about how she did it.
   Harper Teachmaster Simile asked about interest in an instruments class, Mikki Miles Ensemble. She can loan the instruments.

Unwelcome visitors:
   Vee returned a bunch of Russian prims this week. and banned one guy. The "Tyl Experience" seems to have reduced their numbers, although some just moved to Etamin.

2015-11-29 (business)

   Full-sim tiers and Thuban's rent are paid; Homestead-sim tiers, due on the 15th, are covered. But Vee's still between jobs.

Memorial service for Anne:
   Our remembrance yesterday gathered a few people, human and dragon.

General discussion:
   Discussed RP themes, and events, and recruiting, and publicity. Speculated about putting something up in one of the social media groups.
   M'thos had done some updates to the website, putting in GPoP specific info.
   Caledon has started a basic RP class.

Afternoon schedule:
   Vee's RP class at 1, off-the-cuff RP at 2.

2015-11-22 (RP)

   ...are ok, full tiers are due on the 28th, and our domains got renewed.

Experiences, per Vee:
   Agreeing to an Experience grants permission to scripts on the sim or land that have been set to use that 'experience'. But the experience request persists - once you've granted it once, it doesn't go away unless you go into your viewer menu and un-grant it.
   And scripts can check if you've accepted an 'experience', and boot you if you haven't. The Tyl script is just checking, for now, but I might add a teleport home later. And then auto-attach a temp hud or something, which might be used to advertise the sims, and tp anyone who rezzes something while not in one of our groups to some space upstairs... Anyone who rezzes a few hundred prims can have everything returned and be sent home & banned *without* asking for permissions.
   Anyway, still working on all that. Need to make sure no-one in our security database and with experience accepted can be booted. But curious if just getting that big permissions window will deter some of our Russian friends.  
   [how does it work for those that have 'rez in land group' enabled in viewer?] No difference. Scripts can't return anything rezzed in the land group, and anyone with landgroup rights should be in the greeter database anyway. (Once I fix the broken greeters in Kuma & Shaula.) That's one reason I'm using Tyl - its greeter is working properly, just doesn't have the 'add user' functionality of the full sim greeters.
   My intention is to keep avoiding land perms... I want people able to rezz, but set a limit on how much & return stuff that's left behind when visitors - not players - leave. And keep shopping bags out of the RP area.
   [People who have prims in Gianfar but have left the Groups] are still in the database, their stuff is still in the groups. Objects rezzed in a group don't lose that group just because you give it up.. coding that would be a nightmare for LL, and cause a lot of complaints.

   Yesterday was the anniversary of Anne's going between, which we normally mark with a small ceremony. But we missed it this year. We'll do a ceremony next Saturday, 2pm SLT, which is 5pm ET, 10pm BST, 11pm CET.  

   Decided to be informal today, just pick-up RP, as it didn't appear that many would be around.

2015-11-15 (business)

   HS tiers and adboards are paid. Vee added an adboard at World of RP.
   Vee has a few good job leads for this week.

Other business:
   SL SF Con: Vee went to a planning meeting yesterday, and grabbed a booth - in her own name, not Gianfar's; we and Pandora are skipping the con this year. But the Con supports RFL so she wants to participate and would welcome help, especially for building.
   Question about the greeter: Is the registration box (under the table in the Dome) working? When Liriel tried to register, it kept saying "Fail."
   John's schedule: he can make meetings now, but not RP. He's off work on Fridays and Saturdays, and should be able to be online about 5ish the other days; also 3-5 SLT Fridays.

   Vee and Vesi plan to get through how Vee "steals her from the Lower caverns so she can waste her time in the Hold. <giggles>" They're thinking of starting in the Rest, at 2 or soon after Vee's class gets out. Weyrleader S'ar will try to shame the Lord Holder into a deal.
   The Weyrleader has been visiting Harper Hall more often, also flying with a few Riders to the northern part of the Island more often. There is a reason, to be discovered.  

2015-11-08 (RP)

    Tiers are up to date, HS tier due on the 15th is covered, we're up to date on renters. Vee's still job hunting.

   Colin invited a lady who was in the fields of Tyl to take her prims with her when she left. When he returned later, she was gone but he had to Return a particle generator and a pose stand. Today he reminded two Russian(?) furries who were 2500m above Kuma not to leave any prims here; and they didn't. Discussed what we could do about the increasing frequency of folks using us for a sandbox. We can't auto-return prims from non-members because many parts of Gianfar were made by people who left long ago. Vee and Wyn will discuss the matter.

   Cynianne, who's been gone for several months, has left our Groups and isn't planning to return. Ayla will choose Rodney as her human.
   Vesi's asked for a transfer to the Hold, and we're planning on roleplaying her being added to the Lady's personal staff, today. There was much speculation about building some RP around political intrigue.
   Jade (txep'ongokx) is interested in doing some weaving and might move into the Weaver room across from the Council Chamber, or elsewhere in the Hold. Vesi and maybe Zircon displayed interest.

   Last chance to see Wyn's Halloween build: it will be taken down today.
   Dezy is on a long recovery from surgery, hoping to avoid going back to hospital.

2015-11-01 (business)

Convened with grouches about the transition to Standard Time, and the fact that the U.S. flipped a week after the U.K., garbling schedules as usual. The Threadfall rezzers have been updated (Kuma) or will be updated by noon (Shaula).

   Full sim tiers are paid, none of the triple-billing from last time. HS tiers are covered. Vee will renew our ads today.

   Vee *may* be updating Thread and the tipjars this week, depending on time, interviews, and stuff.
   We have Harper applicants, Bryi and Ardrhys.
   Wyn built a Halloween site; Vee will send an LM via group Notice. We'll have a DJ or streaming music.

2015-10-25 (RP)

LL problems:
   While Vee was clearing some visitors out of Tyl's sky, and taking care of the houses they'd built, we talked about other problems: LL claiming that "There was a problem charging your payment method." (easy enough to correct once one knows how), and LL not allowing someone to log on at all despite the account being OK (cause unknown so far).

   Vee's between jobs again but tier is OK for now and she already has interviews lined up.

   We're not joining the LL event, not enough time to prepare. We'll still have a party next Sunday, details tba.

New(er) members:
   Ardrhys, new alt of Taliesin, is intended to be an apprentice Harper.
   Looks as if Bel and Phoenix are pairing up as dragon and rider.

   Wordmaster Ludo's been gone for a few months, up in the hills researching (exchanging songs and stories with) Colin's "cousins." Can we build something from that?

2015-10-18 (business)

   Up to date, all tiers paid. Full-sim payments are due on the 28th as usual.

   LL is publicizing a "Creepy Crawl 2015" on Dec 30th. We might get in on that.
   Our Halloween party is set for Nov 1st; Wyn is working on a build for it. Halloween with Threadfall?? We're recruiting a Threadproof DJ.

2015-10-11 (RP)

Finances continue sound.

And we had some bad news - Moira's going to be around a lot less, her RL is getting gnarly. And Nekome could really use some folks to RP with, if anyone can get on on Friday mornings, or even Friday daytimes (SLT). If she's not insim, feel free to ping her through the group.

Taliesin compiled a Notecard of landmarks around the island. That led to a discussion of what's where and what used to be where. The need for boats to reach Dolphin / Seacraft Hall led to a discussion of where we ought to have boat rezzers. Zircon will offer copies of the lateen skiff that Ludo made long ago, after beating the permissions into shape.

Star proposed setting up a classroom in the Weyr. We discussed the best place for it.

Vee suggested that we go through all the LM's on Tal's list, visit each one and check them out. We could list details such as the rooms in Healers', Harpers', Smithcraft, and the Weyr. We started that project, to be continued next week.

2015-10-04 (business)

   Full sim tiers were paid last week. Twice, thanks to a glitch in LL's bookkeeping, but they did refund Vee's overpayment. Thuban's rent, and the Homestead tiers, and the next full-sim tier are covered... assuming LL get their software straightened out.

   We went around the table introducing ourselves to Vesi and Taliesin, our newest members. Had a very social meeting. Speculated on finding some Pern music to add to our medieval stream.

   Katrine and her daughter are recovering from the auto accident that put them in the hospital a couple of months ago.
   As we discussed acquainting new (and perhaps older) members with places on the island, I doodled a list in the margin of my scroll. I'd be happy to send the resulting Notecard to anyone who asks for it.
   The group sponsoring the SL SF Con has changed name, not membership, to "Sci-Fi alliance." Next year's Con is still to be almost entirely on space stations, so Gianfar and Pandora aren't planning to participate.

   Discussed a Halloween event. As the RL event will be on a Saturday, we could have a Gather in the RP zone and a Halloween scene on a skybox.

2018-09-27 (RP)

   Thuban tier is paid up, so are our ads. Full sim tier is due tomorrow and is covered. So we'll be here for another month.

RP themes:
   Weyrleader S'ar is still recovering from her injuries and won't be able to fly Thread until Healer Rodney releases her for duty. We'll probably use that as a theme for the afternoon's RP session.

Title: Colin's meeting notes (book 17)
Post by: Colin on January 03, 2016, 09:26:03 PM
[continued in book 18[

2016-02-14 (business)

We opened with chatting as usual, and welcomed our newest member Foeronia [who later decided to make a new character for Gianfar: Tzipipaz].

   HS tiers are due tomorrow and covered. Thuban rent is up to date. Ads are up to date. Full-sim tier is due at the end of the month... keep fingers crossed.

   Vee plans to update all the tip jars this week. In future, tip jars on all sims should display a running total for all donations to all jars. The jars will forward donation data to the Web site.
   Vee's planning to activate the new greeter code on Thuban soon. It'll send unwanted visitors and their prims home, and put them in the land-ban list for 30 minutes. But for testing, it'll just tell Vee what it would do if it were allowed to.

   Our "Dragons for a Cure" team needs to have at least 5 members, and it'd be nice for them to be different "players" rather than alts. If you want to join the team, you need to sign up on the RFL website and look for the Dragons for A Cure team. The team page is

Valentine's Gather after RP:
   Discussed decorating the "3500" skybox for a Valentine's Day Gather to be held at 4pm SLT.

Weyrling classes:
   Weyrlingmaster R'iss plans to be here every Sunday for the foreseeable future so people can IM her if they want her for anything specific. Otherwise she will be available to do a class in RP mode. She'll post notices in the Shaula Weyr and Dragons of Pern groups.

RP practice:
   We got into a discussion of the practice RP sessions that were held in the early days of Gianfar. The idea was for people to be somewhat randomly assigned roles to play, and a situation would be set up for them to deal with. The sessions wouldn't be connected with the main RP. We may well try that this afternoon, on Thuban; watch for a Notice. Thuban has a bamboo forest at the moment, we'll likely be exploring that.

2016-02-07 (RP)

   ... are still good, HS tiers are due in a week and are covered.

Russian "invasion":
   No one had seen Russian furries in Gianfar in the past week.  

SL SF Con:
   Vee received a supportive message from the Companions' Guild about the Con, with the hope that we'd participate. Summarizing: Gianfar and Pandora had been very active in the Cons for several years. This year we were told that we weren't science fiction because we aren't on space stations. We decided not to participate as groups, and have stood by that decision. Ironically, Gianfar was originally invited because we're a bridge between the medi-fantasy sims and the sci-fi sims.
   Vee has taken a booth in her own name as she still supports the idea of the Con and the RFL drive that it supports. Gianfar has formed an RFL team and is welcome to collaborate with the Companions' Guild.
   The RFL kick-off date is March 6th.

How To Train Your Dragon - or Rider:
   Vee: "How long a dragon stays a hatchling is entirely up to the dragon & rider. And how long they stay adolescent is... up to Riss.
   "As far as I'm concerned, the sooner you're all qualified for the fighting wing, the better. At the same time, have as much fun with your pre-graduation RP as you like. And please do try to beat Randy's course times, it means I get to fly more... I have a very competitive rider."

Harper classes:
   Z'ron is available to teach the classes by appointment; she's usually not in-world during the week otherwise.

   Nothing settled for today, several people had conflicting activities.
   Might do something OOC for Valentine's Day, in the Gather Grounds at 3500 meters above Shaula.
   Thinking of a weyrling class RP on the 21st.

2016-01-31 (Gather Sunday)

   Full-sim tiers have been paid, on schedule.

   Is doing a lot better.

   Discussed a name for our team, as registration time is imminent. "Dragons for a Cure" came out on top.
   Araminia will be working on the RFL weekend in July, and is looking for support. She has a tribute band who is willing to come over and work with us for fundraisers.

   Has a new job with little weekend work and no Sundays.

SF Con:
   Vee is still thinking of putting on a dragon themed dance for the Milky Way Cabaret.

   This is the 5th Sunday of the month, hence a Gather Day. We also have M'thos & Ademith's graduation to Rider status to celebrate and five new weyrlings. We'll use the new Gather grounds, at 3500 meters.

Weyrling training:
   As we have five pairs, it's permissible to do some tasks with whoever's available; but in the long run, it's better to do as many with *your* dragon/rider as possible. Task #16 is to teach a class; the subject would be chosen in discussion with the WeyrlingMaster or Assistant WeyrlingMaster. It gives everyone a chance to take on a leadership role even if only for one class.

   Angel has been exploring the idea of RPing a watchwher. Folks liked the idea. Whers would be NPC characters, so anyone can play one. We discussed how and where to find a suitable or moddable avatar.

2016-01-24 Impressions:

Handa/green Taissath
Suzie/gold Aramyth
Adara/blue Bodnath
Sandie/green Jayceth
Zircon/green Hwyleth

This may well have been the largest Hatching ever... and during the day we received three applications.

2016-01-24 (RP)

This was the largest meeting in recent memory (and that goes back a long time): at least 23 people.

   Are good. All our ads and Thuban rental were paid yesterday. Full sim tier is due this week and is covered, but Vee's still seeking a job.
   LL are again allowing the sale of grandfathered sims. As Sylv (Thuban's owner of record) pointed out to Vee. When finances permit, we may see if we can buy Thuban back.

Wyn's status:
   She's doing a lot better. Her mother's funeral was yesterday; Vee said "as funerals go, it was very nice and not at all depressing."

   The three harper apprentices and Liriel/Zircon will be revising the structure of Harper Hall rules and classes to make it easier and more fun. If anyone is interested in joining them in that process talk to one of her. (sorry, couldn't resist that)
   Zircon just made a new scroll rack, as (some of?) the racks in Harpers were buggy.

Weyrling tasks:
   Weyrlingmaster R'iss passed a list of tasks to Varian and Ortath for review.

   Searched Candidates are Riss's responsibility until the actual hatching. Ortath will run the hatching and impression. Afterwards, all pairs who haven't passed training are in Riss's care, including Riss's own pair.
   Riss's player can't often be Riss and Handa at the same time. Confuses her and overloads her computer. M'thos is Assistant WM and also in charge when R'iss is not here.
   Vee will try to hand out DoP & Weyr titles as people hatch/Impress, but feel free to poke her if you don't get an IM from her. Riss will probably be too busy.
   Feel free to invite your friends to come watch. Visitor rules apply. We know from experience, this sim can cope with a hundred avis at once. Lags like crazy, but it can.
   Have folk arrive by 2:00. Aim to have eggs cracking by 2:30, but essentially as soon as we're all here. Ortath knows the hatching order and will tell the eggs when to hatch.
   We'll RP in Chat. There are chat repeaters. NO SHOUTING!
   All Candidates should have robes by the time you read this.

   Briefly discussed them, with the possibility of someone playing one. There's one that was made long ago by the person who made our dragons - that one's not scripted (yet).

Shaula restart:
   Vee planned to do a sim restart to have a clean environment for the hatching.

2016-01-17 (business)

Interesting meeting: about 20 people including two canines, a feline, a wolf, a dragon, a firelizard, and a purple bunny (at last count, repeatedly updated during the meeting).

   Her mother died last night, not unexpectedly. Wyn will probably be in Utah for the funeral next weekend. Two of Wyn's SL friends also died recently. But her health is improving.

   Tier for Etamin and rent for Thuban are late because of Wyn's problems. But the money's there and Vee will take care of the payments.

Greeter scripting:
   Good news: Vee has a working script to - hopefully - chase housebuilders off Tyl. It's not in place yet; she hopes to install it soon. If it works, she'll extend it to Shaula and Etamin. Kuma and Thuban will have to fend for themselves for a week.
   The scripting for a gadget to be put in the Dome to summon guides isn't ready yet but shouldn't take too long.

SL SF Con:
   Vee received a notecard about the Milky Way Cabaret, a regular attraction at the Con. Perhaps we could have dragons dancing, or a small aerial show. Anyone interested in dancing or choreographing should contact her.
RP: Search & Impression
   We have three or maybe five or six pairs. Eggs and Candidates who haven't contacted Weyrlingmaster R'iss should do so, so that we'll know who to expect and who's paired with whom.
   So today's RP is simple - unSearched candidates get Searched, Searched candidates can start journeying to the Weyr. You don't get a lift on a dragon... queen candidates only.
   Dragon pairs who've notified R'iss can begin training straight away. RP may have to wait until Impression, learning how to brake using mountains can start at once.
   We don't require hatched dragons to remain hatchlings, because we don't actually have Turns to teach & feed you. Your choice whether to grow up immediately or play hatchling for a while. You just can't play adult until R'iss passes you. But playing a hatchling can be fun.

2016-01-10 (RP)

Thanks to unscheduled LL maintenance, many of us were Ruths, clouds, or disembodied heads.

   ...Continue good.

   Wyn is well but having vision problems.

Informing new members:
   We tried to discuss R'iss's new-member handout, limited by the Notecard-sharing system being flaky.
   Moira posted a New Player Checklist on the Web, back in '14, and that was accessible despite LL's best efforts to not work:
   We discussed the need to inform new members, by notecard or class. Moira may be able to resume offering Tuesday morning classes.

RP at "other" times:
   What about RP sessions besides the Sunday 2 PM one? No one seemed to be showing up for the dolphin RP, Saturday 8 AM. We didn't think anyone was showing up for Weyr RP at 7 AM Fridays. It wasn't clear whether there was still Weyr RP Thursday evenings.
   We'll start trying sending "I'm here, let's play" messages to GPoP and seeing if people respond.

Helping new members:
   We discussed ways to help folks who are new not just to Gianfar but to SL. "One thing a new player doesn't get, is help on where to get help." We ought to answer quick questions "here," and refer SL basics and complex questions to NCI. It would be a good idea to have NCI in one's Picks: Kuula (151,209,29) or NCIsland (120,83,23)
   Vee will talk with Wyn about resuming work on the "page a guide" project to let folks "push a button" in the Welcome Center to ask for a guide.

   We'd planned to do a Search this afternoon. We have potential Candidates, but need Search riders and dragons. Also needed to have SL working! And Weyr staff too - no Weyrwoman, missing Weyrleader; at least Weyrlingmaster R'iss is still here. We'll try having weyrlings M'thos and Ademith do the Search; and "Assuming we can rezz dragons with a full complement of wings and most of their limbs, Varth will be here."

NCI RP class...
   ...cancelled for today, thanks to SL problems.

2016-01-03 (business)

   ...isn't feeling well just now, and her mother's quite ill. Vee will let us know more as things develop.

   Full sim tiers got paid on the 28th. HS tiers for the 15th are covered. Vee needs to check on Thuban, thinks it's due, but that Novi has it covered. And all our ads are paid up.
   Vee has a final interview Tuesday afternoon; by bath time, she should know if she has a new job.

   [I rarely quote people directly in these notes, but this matter was too important to paraphrase. -Colin]
   Vee said, "Tyl, which is being my lab for security software, is about to get more interesting for our Russian friends. I've been testing a greeter upgrade on an offsim parcel, and it's about done... In future, you will need to accept that Experiences prompt, or you'll be sent home. If you rezz more than 100 prims, and you're not in the security system or wearing one of our group tags, you'll be sent home and banned for half an hour, and I'll get an email about it. More than 10 prims gets you a warning and your prims returned. Leaving gets your prims returned. I'm working on something to detect vehicles, as I've returned a lot of cars and motorbikes recently.
   "If that works on Tyl, I'll expand it to Etamin and Shaula. Kuma needs some tweaks, as Wyn doesn't want visitors to her shop area to get the experience prompt - which isn't required for the prim checker part, anyway. Tyl and Etamin, though, will have an added feature - rezz prims at ground level, without security recognising you, and they'll be returned, and you'll be tp'd to a 'changing room' platform. That *does* require Experience permissions, so failing to accept them first gets you sent home.
   "Thuban's also going to have a special version, for now. Wyn's using Thuban as a lab cum factory, so she has a lot of visitors going through there. In the meantime I've banned one housebuilder, returned 2 cars and a motorbike, and any number of shopping bags, from Tyl and Etamin, this week.
   "To repeat: I don't mind people unpacking shopping (clothes, anyway) here as long as it doesn't interfere with RP or violate privacy. It keeps the sims busy and awake, and we get good word of mouth. But we're not a sandbox. we don't have the free primmage, and Wyn and I were trained by Soo, we're lag nazis. Extra scripts are NOT welcome. So visitors should take their shopping bags with them. Anyone who wants to rezz prims, can pay us rent."

   There has been little interest in harpering lately. The ensemble instruments from Mikki Miles don't work on Ludo/Simile's tablet. So she'd like to find someone who enjoys playing ensemble music and give them the instruments, in exchange for their services in setting up ensemble music for events. There are a few people who know how to play them.
   She'd also like to give recognition to people who would like to perform but don't want to apprentice to Harpers. She suggested that we have a Harper student cord, just the blue cord with a different but musical badge, for student harpers. The 'student' concept has been in Gianfar plans for a long time.
   She will continue giving SingEZ classes because she just found out her scroll racks are all broken and have to be rebuilt from scratch, and all the songs rewritten to match the SingEZ script. She'll teach classes by appointment at other times than after the 3 PM Fall on Sundays.

   Vee got a Notecard from Azdra: "After asking you about Gianfar doing RFL this year, I have been doing some research. There is a castle/house building contest that I did last year.  I would like to ask for some help for it.  There is a Dragonriders of Pern theme area that is still open.  I would like to see if you and I and possibly Wyn if she has time would help me design a build for it.  It is May 23 to June 18.
   "Also, RFL event weekend is approaching and the theme this year is Once upon a Cure.  I would like to get with you and brainstorm something "mystical" for it. The dates for RFL weekend are in July this year.  I'm not sure of the dates yet. I would also like your permission to put up a RFL kiosk somewhere on Gianfar for donations."
   Gianfar has a long history of supporting RFL - before Vee even joined SL, these sims were used as an RFL venue. So the kiosk was approved. We've also hosted concerts and events for RFL in the past. If anyone - of *any* team - wants to use our sims, we'll do our best to help. Anyone with any good ideas, please drop them on Azdra or Vee; or if willing to help out, talk to Azdra.

   Vee restated our rental policy: Wyn and Vee love renters (as long as they keep paying). They run the rental 'businesses' separately, but in fact all rents go into Novi's pot. Except where they use them to offset US$ transactions - they save a bundle in fees that way. All of which goes to Gianfar. So they have the same terms. L$700, 1400 or 2100 for 25, 50 or 75 prims, payable monthly by the 27th. The only major difference is, Shaula already has rental locations - weyrs. Kuma, Tyl and Etamin don't - but they'll build for anyone who finds a place they'd like to live. Also... they do NOT require rentals to be in theme. Just, not visible from RP if they aren't. And they DON'T limit Weyr rentals to riders/dragons, or Hold/Hall rentals to crafters/holders...  if you want to rent a space IC, they'll find an IC reason for you to be there, if at all possible. And they do rent to non-players. Vee's been told we don't, but she inherited non-player rentals from Soo, and "I'm sure I'd remember changing the policy... probably..."

   We have two pairs almost ready for hatching, but who've been out of touch with one another over the holidays. Absent an active queen, the mating flight will have to be OOV, or we use the from-the-future story again. But Vee was thinking, maybe Search next week - starting the 10th - followed by Impression as the Sunday RP on the 17th? Any dragon-rider pair that have passed out of training and happen to be free can participate in the Search. And remember, OOC visitors are encouraged... we have a big hatching ground. Probably to be discussed further this afternoon.

   We'll use Mist's build at 3500 meters. We'll have a couple of SingEZ songs / stories, maybe some instrumental music. There are dance balls, seating, and a game table; maybe some games. The ones Ludo has are unavailable because her Inventory is so large that she can't log in.

Title: Colin's meeting notes (book 18)
Post by: Colin on February 21, 2016, 09:37:06 PM
2016-03-27 (business)

   Thanks to the time change, Thread falls in Kuma at the start and end of the meeting rather than in the middle.

   Full-sim tiers are due tomorrow and will probably be put off a week as Vee's hoping for a job offer. Everything else is up to date, including rent for Thuban.

   Journeyman Moira is progressing. She will mentor Ardrhys and Tzipi. She has been teaching Harper classes. Master Simile wanted to remind folks that Harper classes are open to all. Moira will be announcing them.
   If Hwyleth isn't here during RP time to continue weyrling training with Z'ron, Simile will teach the second class in the 'event to story to song' series.
   Moira is just finishing up the basic classes right now, with the character background class left for next week. Then she'll be doing some new classes and explorations. She's planning to do the 'event' series and the drum class.
   Weyrlingmaster R'iss and Master Simile will discuss classes for visitors to the Barracks.

SF Con:
   The con seemed to be doing well, raising record amounts of cash, etc. Vee urged everyone to go visit (especially her booth, of course). There was to be an all-day party at the Con. The last public performance of this year's Milky Way Cabaret was to be at 9:00 tonight. She was still to be the second R2D2 on the left.
   If all goes well, Gianfar will be back in the Con next year. Most of the sites whose representatives said that Pern is not SF have died. Vee thinks we might try to take on a bigger role next year. The 'all on one level' Con build was a nice idea but lagged as much as any SLB.
   This link showed up in Cabaret chat during the meeting:
It's coverage of at least some of the acts.

SL Birthday:
   SL13B is coming. Unlucky for some? - it'll be in June. Theme is "The Shared Adventure". So Vee thinks we have a fair chance of getting in ;).

   At Una's request, a cabinet was to be put in the Weyr kitchen cave after the meeting.

   We supposed that not many people would be around on Easter Sunday.
   R'iss reported that most werylings were on tasks one and two so arranging for them to meet and RP with Masters & Holders etc. was her current priority. The goal was for them to meet all the people they need to within RP situations.    They did some flying - well, gliding - with Ortath last week, which was fun. They might focus on gliding, feeding and bathing today, just a general fun thing for whoever is here. Or perhaps cleaning the kitchen.
   The theme might be werylings doing chores and being interrupted by Harpers looking for one of their own. (The Harper assigned to the Weyr had gone missing.) 
   The weyrlings will meet the Lady Holder on April 10 and the Harpers on May 8, if all goes well. 'Reserving' those dates will give people time to plan.

2016-03-20 (RP)

   Vee reported: "Finances remain stable. Full sim tier is due in 8 days, we'll probably pay in 2 weeks 'cos I'm kinda hoping I'll have a job by then... Have not one, but two interviews in final stages. If I don't, advance warning, it's going to be tight."

UFS sim catastrophe:
   Azdra was dealing with a major disruption to her UFS (Star Trek) group in OpenSim. Details were very complicated but basically a whole sim was removed. LL handles sim ownership differently; that couldn't likely happen to Gianfar.

SL, Windows 10, and Firestorm
   Z'ron just had to upgrade to Windows 10 on a tablet (Microsoft Surface Pro 3). The Linden viewer worked but with illegibly small text. The latest Firestorm worked with small but legible text.

SF Con:
   Vee sent a Notice with the LM of her booth, "Which is 99% Jade." It's near Jade's actual booth. Be sure not to touch the dragon eggs, lest you be squished.
   Vee will be dancing in the Milky Way Cabaret... tonight at midnight, Wed & Sat at noon, next Sun at midnight.

Furry visitors:
   We had a couple of furries in Tyl, near the orchard, Friday & Saturday. Canine-ish appearance; one male one female. Colin told them they were welcome to look around but not to build anything. Vee was going to check around but hadn't seen anything major lately.

Threadfall vs. DST
   As the fog of the time change clears or thickens, Thread will fall on odd hours, e.g. around 3:30 in Shaula and 3:50 or so in Kuma. That will give more time for Weyr RP before Fall.

   Probably weyrling training and Weyr RP, possibly a harper class overlapping Threadfall.

   Harpers should tell Z'ron (= Learningmaster Tristin) what requirements for promotion they have met; what class would they would like to teach; and what event they would like to report on that they did not attend. As a suggestion: "We have been accused of not keeping our history well. I've written songs about it, but most people don't know how it used to be. I'd like to get harpers to interview the old timers [who are still active] and write stories and songs about what they remember." Some of the old timers besides Z'ron (= Ludo) are Vee, Wyn, John, Rodney, Riss, Colin, and of course Soo.
   Also, harpers should consider what classes we need most, and discuss that later.

2016-03-13 (business)

SL SF Con:
   txep reported that parcels at the Con are available now for purchases, and the dragon cave is already in place. Vee had claimed that plot last night.

   Tier has been paid. Next payment is due Tuesday.

RP schedule:
   Weyrlingmaster R'iss suggested that she put together a weyrling weekly schedule as she had heard complaints that people still felt there was not enough structure.
   She also had an idea that alternate weeks she and M'thos should maybe take it in turn to lead the weyrling RP. That way she would be able to log as Handa and spend time with her new dragon.
   She also thought that as Harpers can only do their classes during Sunday RP time we should make that part of the timetable for Sunday programme and that we should also timetable in the 'free' RP time like we did a couple of weeks ago which gives people a chance to try out new roles, scenarios etc.
   But Z'ron didn't know yet what the Harpers could do. Sunday was not convenient for them. She noted that Moira had been holding classes @ 11:59pm for one or two apprentices.

Attracting members:
    We could try posting in the Looking for RP group more often than once a year.
    We could have a Gather every month or two, rather than quarterly, and invite people to it.
    We could offer walking/riding tours, with live tour guides, and a history of the island. Guiding some tours could be an optional apprentice / weyrling / journeyman task.
    The weyrlings are supposed to do a map of the sims, with important points. They could do tours as part of that.
    Someone could lead a geography / history class for weyrlings.

   We had a griefing on Tyl last week. For 2 days, until Vee noticed it... a single object, meshed to be hard to rez unless you were on top of it, filling the sim with temp mesh objects that caused you to crash if you looked closely. Looked like thin blue vertical lines. She found the main object through sim tools - it just wouldn't show in area search - and returned it; took several minutes before the temps were derezzed. (That delay may have been the sim or her viewer, there were a *lot* of them.) And the perp is estate-banned, of course. GeometryCat, for reference.

Next week's meeting:
   Vee suggested that we meet at her SL SF Con site. It's hers, not Gianfar's, so Gianfar wouldn't be officially participating in the Con. She'll post a Notice before the meeting.

2016-03-06 (RP)

   Vee: "All our bills are due today, except for HS tiers and Kuma - HS's are due next Monday, Kuma was paid yesterday. To the best of my knowledge, all current bills, including tiers, are covered. I'll find out if that's true when I pay all the ads & tiers after this meeting..."

Sim security:
   txep asked about defending against griefers; a friend's sim is being attacked repeatedly. Also, LL is investigating whether a new type of "simkiller" is being used against an NCI sim.
   One can get a 'sim scanner,' something that scans a sim and makes a note of all scripted objects not owned by a whitelist of people & groups.
   These days, scripts can return objects not in the landgroup or belonging to the landowner. But don't scripts still work if they're active before you TP in? Scripts don't go totally off. It's called 'script danger', officially - a bunch of script functions & events are disabled, including in already-running scripts. Rules are different for attachments and rezzed, but some things, like touch, are disabled in both. The landowner (or group, if deeded) is exempt, as Vee remembers it.
   A lot of griefer tools use prim settings - particles are set by scripts, but in sim settings, so, once set, they aren't affected if the script is removed.
   Vee's defensive scripting seems to be working on Thuban; she'll decide whether it's ready to go live on Shaula and Etamin.
    Caledon Uni has a course in scripting, but it's mainly geared to newbies. MT Mimulus does one at Helping Haven that's good. NCI runs scripting classes, Vee is one of the sub teachers; the Basics class has just been updated.

RFL & SF Con:
   Starts today. Team Dragons for the Cure tipjars are going to start appearing in appropriate areas.
   Vee wanted to mention txep's outstanding work in unexpectedly creating a dragon cave, which will debut on Vee's booth for Sci-Fi Con.
   Vee's thinking about dragon racing, for money raising and fun. She might try adding an 'RFL' mode to our main course, and maybe restricting it to pairs. Then anyone could compete.
    Builders' Brewery will have a speed-building contest - pay to enter and no L$ prizes so that all the funds will go to RFL. Prize items will be donated. And they'll be auctioning off build classes for one-on-one lessons.

Weyrling RP:
   The weyrlings are all at different stages of training. Two pairs have completed task one though the rider needs to hand hers in. One has completed at least half of hers but it's not handed in yet. There's one pair that R'iss has not seen since Hatching.
   R'iss can set up individual RP sessions that address some of the tasks they need to do. With them all at different stages with the Tasks it is otherwise difficult to set up beneficial group RP.
   Vee is putting out a notecard dropper in the barracks, specifically for weyrling task reports.
   txep's concern is that keeping everyone "in sync" discourages everyone - the ones that finish quickly have to wait before they can move on, and the ones that take more time feel like they're lagging behind and holding everyone back. Vee saw no need to keep the weyrlings in sync.
   R'iss has mentioned regularly that both she and M'thos are available if people want help with specific things. Trouble is, nobody seems to be coming forward. She will offer a group RP every two weeks. If people want help with anything specific they can IM her. She'll also issue NCs every two weeks with task reminders. That might give procrastinators a push.

   We'll probably do some weyrling training.  

2016-02-28 (business)

   Full sim tiers are due today but we'll delay payment for a few days. Vee and Wyn may start asking for help if Vee doesn't land a job this week. The Homestead tiers on the 15th should be covered, though, so we're here for another month.

   Shanna had looked at several of the sims and said they all look interesting.

SF con:
   Vee's too busy looking for work, and will probably abandon her booth and dance projects.

   Probably weyrling training.

   Discussed but didn't quite decide on holding more classes; watch for Notices.

2016-02-21 (RP)

   Full sim tier is due the 28th, we may delay paying a week but it's still covered. Vee will be renewing the ads today. Thuban rent should be due & is covered.
   Rentals are due on or before the 27th.
   Vee is still interviewing.

Intersim RP proposal:
   Ainemari Flanagan co-owns Ynys Seamaide and Mer Sea with Hywl. She said: Reality is that a lot of independent sims have 'quiet hours' - most of the huge sims, unless it's an event, are 2 dots in houses.scattered though 10-20 sims. What I would propose, is we join together and instead of being two dots in a fairly empty sim work on coordinating visits. We RP here and visit like I did for the hatch- talking to the eggs. You folks come pause for drinks and recover from your long flights- between "between."
   We make sure events don't overlap and sort of do light RP.. without impacting Pern [she is a HUGE Anne fan] and you do the same with those of us (there are 5 other sims) who are willing. Say if they need dragons to fly by and scare villagers..  someone here can do that.
   But we work together to improve everyone's experience as a whole. For instance.. I used to love doing bardic visits and telling stories that fit the sims I was visiting. I would like to have a "circuit" where I do that among the five or six that are willing to host. Preschedule dates so you know when and where.
   Seamaide would also like to host dragon races - flying races that are not Gorean tarns. I have the air race to do so.. and can also give that info to you all or simply come here and set up something. But I would like to see that alternate and someone host one the next month- then another sim the following month. We like races and such in Seamaide.....always have some side bets going on. More than once a month gets redundant and boring but with different sims and different scenery I think it could be fun for all.    Also it's not a big strain to host something like that once a month with say a traveling Unity empire market for trade goods. Then each sim hosts the rest to come visit. We keep to our own rules and stories. Visitors are expected to follow your sim's rules, and if they can't then do not visit.
   We already have a group established.. but it's been very very quiet because no one's really taken the initiative. And it's time someone did. But why have an NPC play something when you can borrow a decent RPer from another sim to do it for you? That way we all benefit, we all get RP which leads to more RP.
   I have three sims that would welcome your folks in their taverns and skies anytime you want to stop by and will reciprocate. I can make a title that indicates "visitor from United Fantasy Realms." I have already made a NC with LM's, your rules, everyone else's rules and contacts. Each sim takes their role play to the other to support populating each sim and just for variety and meeting others. (Vee: I pointed Aine at our visitor RP rules last night.)
   We have bards in other places that would get together and host story times. We can attend each other's events like the hatching- which I incorporated into my own RP. I just do not say it was an entirely new world.. it was me "going to another land." [about Hatching:] It was GREAT RP watching those eggs and I had to stop myself from grabbing the little blue.. that one nearly broke my heart. But that is a story Aine will tell - her first time seeing a clutch of dragons hatch. Simply light RP but it was GOOD RP, and I hoped my presence added something for those that were there.
   This would be for the RP sims out there that are not and do not want to be a part of the conglomeration sims [like Gor and Star Trek] so that we can lend support to one another.
   txep'ongokx: Pandora "has three sets of rules, and we do all pass out copies of the rules to everyone." But how to handle schedules with multiple sims or communities?
   Scheduling in the Steamlands:
   The group is United Fantasy Realms.
   We have a Google calendar. If there's a shared Google calendar somewhere, we can connect the two...
   There are events that we can work together on- like a monthly  roving bard circle.. Flying races - Market days. with sim items for UES that are only found in your sim.. Again between five sims that's alternating between them.. set a few events monthly not weekly..
   We'll need rules like "no poaching" - just common sense things to let people know they are welcome to visit but please claim a home base. And as an SF creator and UES dev I can offer stuff for prizes and such at events.
   Vee: "Right now, I'm not seeing anything that would conflict with our visitor or offsim RP rules."
   I know it's a lot to think about. But if it's something you're interested in, please talk about it and think about the possibilities. Your answer does not need to be right now- I would expect you have some things to consider.. and I will hand the list of sims out to you so you can take a look around- etc. before you come to a decision. I personally visited each of them and spoke to sim owners (most of who I knew already) and looked over the rules- there are a few that are on the group list that we won't go to because they just don't figure into our storylines- like the drow sims.. and one that combines star wars with fantasy / steam punk / medieval RP.
   (Question: So if we visit these sims we should wear the UFR alliance group title instead of 'visitor'?) Which is what I will include on the card.. and  ask that in the rules we agree on. But again this is "light RP" not sim versus sim.
   Vee: Might be fun to have a [dragon] racing league... just a thought.
   Vee will break with tradition and appoint herself the point person.
   The consensus was that we like the proposal and want to be involved.
   Aine had already mentioned based on Roarke's and Hywl's input that IF this happens- asked other sim owners if they would be open to it and three are "Oh yes please and we will come visit too."
   Question was whether dragons "purr" when pleased. The word isn't used in the books, as far as anyone could tell. So in a story I'm writing I'll say that a young dragon "crooned softly" when scritched.

Aramyth (aramynia): ok...dates
Paint SL Purple Feb 28-Mar6
Kickoff March 6
1/2 way mark May 14-15
Relay Weekend July 16-17
Wrap up Aug 14
   Weyrling training today plus whatever happens at the Rest. Weyrlingmaster R'iss has had no Task One notecards handed in yet. So they could do a bathing/oiling/butchering group task (though at least two of them have already done that). Also R'iss was wondering today if we could cover some of the ground they need for Task 2 in RP, then they can write it up in their own words for homework so to speak. Or, if we could cover some dragon anatomy *looks at Rodney* with them? So maybe we do a bit of dragon anatomy & some smattering of Weyr structure. It's a pity there's no Weyrleader - it would be great to have them meet the Weyrleader. (John reported there's no recent news about S'ar.)

Title: Colin's meeting notes (book 19)
Post by: Colin on April 03, 2016, 07:47:16 PM
[Continued in book 20]


   Finances are good, HS tier went out early this morning (unusually for LL), Thuban & the ads are up to date, next FS tier is covered... so we're here for another month.

Home & Garden show:
   The build opens Friday... which is also RLV concert day here... notices will follow.

   We got an Email from them last week, asking for more details because our description was too much like last year's. So Vee got with Wyn last night and they hammered out a plan... this year, we want to be at sea, on a boat. If we get the water parcel we've asked for, we want to tell the story of a Fall at sea. With the ship rigging for Fall - covering exposed parts with slate, lighting fires, closing hatches - and the option of jumping overboard to be rescued by dolphins, grabbing a flamethrower, or being picked up by a dragon. And, between falls, maybe find some fishing animations for people - throwing nets or gutting fish or something. Could be a GREAT idea... if they accept it.

Qatalina's backstory:
   She's a character that grew out of one Una made up for one of our one-off story rp days. "Got to talking to a couple folks about the character and decided to make it an alt with a fresh story rather than try to add it on to Una (working on her back story for the site too). Mostly this is Una's two-cents in answer to the 'does anyone have a rp idea' weekly question." She sent a notecard to the people at the meeting and will send it to regulars who weren't there. She's hoping once we've had a chance to read it and think about it,  it will be a starting point not only to work her in, but for other rp ideas. Vee established that trading ships dock at Dolphin Hold - which is close enough to Gianfar Hold for goods to be moved there, but far enough away to discourage casual exploration by sailors. Una hopes we'll read the backstory (link to Google Docs in the notecard) and suggest lots of ideas for the story.

   Didn't happen, as Vee was buried in RL. We'll try again next Saturday.

No NCI RP class this afternoon:
   Vee lost a lot of time this week and is going to catch up on coursework. She'll miss our RP time too.
   The Healer Masters are scheduled to meet the weyrlings today.


    Tiers are all paid, HS tiers on the 15th are covered, ads and the Thuban rent are paid. So we're here for another month.

Unwelcome visitors:
   Wyn removed a huge, ugly house from Tyl last week; other than that we seem to have solved the "Gianfar is a public sandbox" problem.

No RP class today:
   Vee has a coding test to take, part of applying for a job.

   Vee will be eight years old Tuesday, and that's Dezy's ninth rezday, and John will be 11 on the 30th... so let's have a demon-themed party next weekend. Maybe 3 or 4 pm Saturday?

   Looks like a musical time around the fire ring in the Weyr bowl. Perhaps the Harpers go to the Weyr to see if any riders, etc., (traders, fishers) are interested in learning a musical instrument - and to perform - outside at the fire ring in the bowl - then we can scramble when thread falls. The Fall should happen in Shaula at 50-55 minutes past odd-numbered hours.

Kuma restart:
   Thread was misbehaving, so Vee set Kuma to restart right after the meeting. We "stood not upon the order of our going, but left at once."

   Una found a Midnight Mania board at Dark Forge - Akhsharumova (204,71,282) - that was giving a Spanish guitar. Several of us popped over there to enter for it.

2016-05-01 (RP)

   Vee's current final interview that was scheduled for Monday, finally happened Friday afternoon... she had no idea how she did.
   Wyn has a rental sim, and her tenant is thinking of giving it up. Wyn's considering downgrading it from a HomeStead (US$125/month) to an OS (OpenSpace), and placing it south of Kuma, as extra sea.
   Full sim tiers were paid Friday. Thuban and our ads are due today, Vee intended to be paying them after this meeting. And HS tiers, due on the 15th, are covered.

   Discussed Win10 (very mixed reviews) vs. Win7 vs. Linux.

Home & garden design contest build rules:
   Azdra read us the rules. Entry fee is L$10,000; entries must be original, created specifically for this contest.

   We're doing another event for that campaign: Friday, May 20th, 6pm. 'Within temptation' (a tribute band) in concert, here. Probably on the 3500 level. Attendance will be open to anyone who wants to attend; this is an RFL event, not a Gianfar one.

   The pencilled schedule called for general Weyrling RP in the Barracks; but few Weyrings were expected to be around. Next week would've been the Masterharper's visit but it's RP Mother's Day. Journeyman Moira could do an IC Harper class during RP time. Whoever's around can meet in the Rest at 2-2:30 and ad lib.
   We might have visitors from another RP group, to which some of us belong, late some Friday afternoon. Details to be worked out.

2016-04-24 (business)

   Full sim tiers are due this week and are covered. Rents are due by Wednesday. Thuban's tier and the ads are covered, and due next week.

Con booths:
   Vee put in an application to SL13B last week. It'll be a while before we hear if we got a booth, although we usually do. The description is: "Visitors will have an adventure! They will be able to ride a dragon (and possibly 'be' a dragon, not decided yet), go 'between', and flame falling Thread (nb. non-phys movement, no prims created or destroyed), as well as riding a talking dolphin through an underwater cavern."  Also, under 'special requirements', and remembering their 85m height limit... "Would like a (1-prim) object up high. As part of our exhibit, we'd like to take a visitor, riding a dragon, 'between', which we simulate by tp'ing inside a black hollow sphere, ideally well out of visual range, for 3 seconds, and returning. (Movement is non-physical, will probably be key-frame animation.) We'd also like to put a 'Red Star' (moon) at 100-150m up, in visual range. This would be phantom, 1 prim, a flat red circular image (to make it less visible from other exhibits)." We'll hear back May 23rd to 25th; and we'll have until June 15th to build in place. And they've asked Vee for some scripting work.

   We have the two biggies coming up:
   We have Home and Garden build competition coming up in just under a month. We are in the Pern Sim; looks as if we'll have a quarter-sim. Azdra will get the info ASAP (if not sooner). The Home and Garden competition is a build competition with the top three winners getting L's put in their donation box. The prizes are rumored to be significant.
   Also... we have the main RFL weekend coming around the middle of July.

   Weyrlings need to meet the Harper Masters and the Masterhealer. They need a dragon anatomy class; Rodney can do that on May 15. Wyn can do her firestone class once she's set up her new computer.
   Vee will be teaching her RP class at NCI as usual today.
   Liriel/Z'ron will be ready to teach a class during RP time if nothing else comes up.

2016-04-17 (RP)

   Ads and Thuban rent have to be paid today, but funds are available. Homesteads are paid. Full sims are due on the 28th, and Vee thinks we're covered there.
   Vee had two interviews scheduled for last week. One was called off because the interviewer had the flu. The other got interrupted halfway through by an 'emergency', and will resume this coming week.

   Moira has created a drummer's HUD that does translation to Morse code (which is what the Gianfar drums send).
   This touring class completed with visits to the Weyr common areas (those accessible from the Bowl) and one of the dragon/rider training areas.
   Harpers met to discuss promotion requirements. Moira created a draft of a 'less wall of text' version, as a list with links to the detailed sections.
   The 'Gianfar is Different' class was presented to two students yesterday.
   There is a hand-drawn map of general locations of landmarks, found in the archives, and put up and made available just past the Archivist office in Harper Hall. Perhaps it will be useful to new players as they start exploring around.
   Vee will give Moira a hide dropper to put in Harper Hall, for apprentices and journeymen to file reports.

SL SF Con:
   Vee was told that our dragons were missed at this year's Con. (And Jade's floating mountains came in for much praise.)
   Next year's theme revolves around five elements - earth, water, air, spirit, and of course Fire. (Vee already has an idea for the Fire part. She plans to turn her idea for Fire into some sort of model, and pass it over.) And there'll be seven sims. Having one sim for events and the cabaret and the cinema didn't work. A few other changes, too. The con's getting to be a bit more professional. Like, training security, and having compliance officers, like the SLB's. Vee thinks they're thinking of having one designer per sim this time, instead of a centralised process. And there was general agreement that having all the booths on the same level on every sim didn't work - far too laggy. Next time, there will be height differences, although nothing too dramatic.

   txep'ongokx reported that she'd submitted Pandora's application for an exhibit parcel.
   Vee said that we'll definitely be putting a booth in, of course. No idea what the design will be. She hadn't even looked at the build rules yet.
   She and txep are hoping for some guidelines for them as well, not just land impact primage and scripts. But at least having compliance officers to check script & mesh usage and prim overlap is a help. Vee wants them to eject or move to another level exhibits that are out of theme, and do the same lag-nazi thing Wyn & she do here (that Soo taught them) with scripts & collision boxes & textures.
      It's unlikely that either Pandora or Gianfar will attempt a performance next year.

   The NCI class is cancelled for today, and Vee will miss this afternoon's RP.
   If Weyrlingmaster R'iss misses the afternoon's RP, Simile or Tristin will teach a Harper class unless someone comes up with something more interesting. There might be some interest in a Harper apprentice interview during RP time. Moira will do it as Learning Master Tristin.
   Teaching Master Simile and Tristin could visit Runners' Rest looking for students and interviewees.

2016-04-10 (business)

   Thanks to anonymous donors, FS tiers were paid. Ads and Thuban are up to date. We're still here.
   And several people had drawn Wyn's and Vee's attention to LL's grandfather-your-sim idea. They're actively considering (when we have the money) grandfathering Tyl & Etamin, since we definitely plan to be here in 6 months, which is the break-even point. On payment of a fee, LL will reduce a sim's tier to grandfathered rates. For the HS's, that's down to US$95 from 125. Our FS's are already grandfathered, of course, as is Thuban. Longer term, it'd make Gianfar cheaper to run, at a slight technical cost - grandfathered sims are back of the line for server hardware upgrades. Vee didn't think that's changing, but it's never affected Kuma & Shaula much anyway.
   Vee has several more promising interviews scheduled for the coming week.

   Z'ron reminded all that our first Masterharper, Harald, said that everyone is a Harper, so classes should be open to all. If you're not an apprentice, journeyman or master and you go to a Harper class, you're a student.
   Right now the students are planning Harper RP. They had a very interesting drum code class in which everyone there threw out ideas for using drums in our RP. Weyrlingmaster R'iss said she would like to recommend that all weyrlings attend when possible.
   Moira did the drum class at 10 am Saturday and has been doing Aussie classes at 11:59 pm SLT.
   You can get info on any class from the scroll rack in Learningmaster Tristin's office. All Harpers that teach are asked to put their class notes there, through Moira, and anyone who teaches any class can give the Harpers class notes for the record, giving them to Moira or Ardrhys, our archivists.
   Anyone with Harper ideas or concerns, please notecard Z'ron because she just doesn't get online much. She sometimes knows things that will help.
   Apprentices should be required to report all activity that might relate to their promotion requirements to their mentor. Z'ron wants to see that added to the promotion NC. She wants to have a meeting soon, open to all, about revising the Harper promotion requirements. Vee would like to attend that meeting. Possible times: a Wednesday or preferably Thursday, after 10 am, or any evening. Two meetings might be held if no time works for everyone.
   Z'ron would like to get a Harper ensemble to provide dance music using Mikki Miles ensemble instruments. Some people know how to play them.
   Vee pointed out that we do need actual Harper masters - and healer, smith, etc - to cover promotion in any active Craft, and some way to cope with any timezone - whether by having more masters, or some sort of asynchronous communication, like notecards or the forums.

   We agreed last week on a date when the Lady Holder could make a visit to the Weyr and the weyrlings could meet her. The idea is to help them RP through part of task 2 (learning about roles and people in different areas). R'iss did post a notice and would do so again after this meeting.
   R'iss would also like to officially encourage weyrlings to attend Harper classes. She noticed one of the classes this week was visiting Landmarks, which would be an excellent class for people new to the sims. Vee suggested that we could make it a new player requirement - as long as we have enough people to cover enough timezones. R'iss could run that class during Euro timezones. Saturday at 10 would be another good time.
   Z'ron pointed out that anyone who teaches a class is meeting a Harper journeyman requirement.

   The Lady Holder's visit to the Weyr was scheduled for today, possibly not at the start of the RP time; so we planned to start at the Rest and move to the Weyr later.
   Colin reported starting a search for avatars that could be used as tunnel snakes. He'd found nothing so far. But txep reported that they're working on a caterpillar, and John had some possible avs.

2016-04-03 (RP)

   Full sim tiers still weren't paid, but probably will be by the time you read this. Ad rentals & Thuban are due today and are covered.

Tyl greeter:
   The code for the greeter software in Tyl seems to need some tweaking. Vee will see to it.  

Classes and other calendar updates:
   Moira suggested that we take the Tuesday classes off the schedule, as we don't have anyone who can teach them regularly. She can teach on most Saturday mornings, probably at 9:30 or 10 am SLT. She could do midnight classes, also, when that works for people's time zones. She can send out notices when she'll be offering a Saturday morning class, and when we have new people can make sure we get the core classes offered. We could say, in general, that classes are offered many Saturday mornings - check notices for dates and topics. Vee updated the calendar.
   There'll be a special class this Tuesday, 11:50 PM SLT. The harpers are heading out from the hall and will be visiting all the different landmark areas around the sims.

Pern Day:
   Anne was born on April 1. We traditionally do something to celebrate her birthday... except when SF Con and Easter fall just before it and upset folks' schedules. Too late to plan something for today so we'll do something next weekend. The Lady Holder's visit to the Weyr is scheduled for then, which would be a good coincidence.

   "What'll we do today?" triggered the idea of rescuing someone lost in the mines. That brought up the idea of tunnel snakes, which of course suggested something from Grendel's as a body. We'll likely meet in the Rest and wing it from there.

Title: Colin's meeting notes (book 20)
Post by: Colin on May 22, 2016, 07:31:36 PM
[continued in book 21]


   ... are good, full sim tiers due in 2 days and are covered. Rents are due tomorrow <Vee hinted>. She'll be running around paying for ads after this meeting.

   SLB <Vee sighs> isn't what we planned.. between my getting sick, my interviews, and Wyn's RL, we got less than half of what we wanted done. We may try to fix that tomorrow. Right now all we have is... a boat and a dolphin. If she and Wyn can install the missing parts, they'll definitely be sending out notices.
   One thing SLB did right this year was script lag... we've been nazis on scripts. The servers have 'spare time' even when the sims are full, which is a first.

   We have a parcel for the Relay. According to Azdra, it's got the road on one side and the sea on the other, and we can terraform. We won't have Jade's help, because looks like she may be the entire Builder's Brewery team. And we'll have to build it very soon.

   Shanna has a Google Doc with notes on Fisher Hall, comments welcome:
We'll go with an NPC Masterfisher for now.

   The flow of visitors, mostly Russian furries for some reason, has continued. Most are good about cleaning up their objects, a few have had to be estate-banned. Vee's planning to work on her "Experience" script, which has a problem.

   We'll start in the Rest as usual, could move elsewhere depending on who shows up.


No formal meeting: Varian had been sick and the SLB parcel was behind schedule, so she had to skip the meeting. No one could help her as the SLB sims had closed at midnight; only she could enter.

Finances are fine.

   Discussed what to put into the story arc of Qatalina's arrival. That included musing about trade with the mainland - secret from 'them,' not from 'us.' What would we have that they'd want, and vice versa, to justify long voyages... especially now with Threadfalls? Remember the tea and spice trade between Europe and the Orient: people risked and often lost their lives to get that merchandise.
   Discussed the 'G&S' equipment in Smithcraft. Some of it was usable but supplies were group-only and not to any of our groups.
   Planned to meet at the Rest at 2 pm as usual and probably discuss expected arrival of a trading ship, and something leading toward Smithcraft RP.


   Vee just paid all our ad bills for the next 2 weeks; HS tiers are due on the 15th and are covered.

   It's now ours again! Owned by Novi Peaks, with Wyn as the responsible party. (LL requires that a person rather than a group "own" land.)

   The fishing boat is rezzed in Thuban on the work platform and most of the texturing is done (although temp textures). It needs dressing and deciding how to make it ready for threadfall (other than taking  the sails down). The textures need a bit of "weathering." We could add a crow's nest (from which to spot fish). Also we need to decide if it is going to be dockside or out in the water. And why would it be at sea with Thread coming... although if it's metal-shielded (how about copper?) then Thread might be more of an annoyance than a terror.

   Azdra applied for a booth at the Relay.

Last week's unexpected meeting:
   During last week's RP time, there was an inconclusive discussion about using something like the G&S meter, for instance, so that people could be harvesting, growing, fishing, etc. Something to do at times when RP is slow. The items made can be used within RP if people wish to. Like a prompt to get things rolling between characters that might not normally interact. For instance two weeks ago at the docks we could have been bartering fish/bread 'for real' as  part of the RP. Just one idea. We'd like ideas & opinions on using the meters... anything that will give people something to do while they're here.

   Turn up at the Rest around 2 and see what happens.

Shanna chats and sings at 2 PM SLT today:
   Announcement from Shanna: This Sunday, June 12, Shonti Elder and I [Tania] will be having a chat and playing some favorite tracks from my CDs on her “Traveling Music” program - my solo recordings, projects with Mike and with Anne McCaffrey, tracks played / sung with William Pint and Felicia Dale, with Artisan… A whole, relaxed hour in the studio.
   You can stream KSKA from their webpage at
   The show airs at 1pm Alaska time, which is 2pm Pacific.


   HS tier is due on the 15th, and is covered. All ads are paid up. We're here for another month.  

   In the auction, our castle went for L$1400. And we made L$6100 at our kiosk. We didn't win anything... the event raised over L$3,000,000, and at least one of the other exhibits had kiosk donations over L$100,000. But we did pretty well (another exhibit Vee saw only raised L$55, so we weren't the 'worst'!). And big thanks to Jade, Wyn and Azdra for all their hard work!
   Jade added, "it's great to be on a team that rallies on short notice. It really went together very quickly, didn't it?"
   Vee: "It did! And we did get a lot of attention! For something we threw together on the spot, we did good."
   Jade: "We all had limited time to be in SL last Sunday... but still managed to get it all done."
   There's no Pern sim in next year's CHG - we got edged out by 'Flintstones: Bedrock' - so we're thinking a garden next time, maybe on the Death Star sim... that could be interesting.

   Wyn's determined that we don't have a boat that meets our needs and is low enough in land impact or small enough. So she's working on one. Modifying a mesh she found on MP - a small motor-driven fisher with masts, that she thinks can look more Pernese and like a sailboat.
   Also, SLB has a requirement this year that the 'main' part of the build is our own work. If we use something bought, we have to modify it, and not just a little bit.
   Wyn's rezzed her proposed boat at Thuban (127,128,1503). It has maps so can be textured as we want (slate decking, metal-clad masts, etc.). We can build it so it looks like it's next to the hall at the pier or out in the water. It has no sails now, but could have if Wyn can find some. She's enlarging the spars so they can hold "real" sails rather than tiny  ones. See:
   We have a bit over a week to get this working.

SF Con:
   Vee: "... is in September. It's the 50th anniversary of some American sci-fi show, can't think of the name... <grins> So the 3 sims are Vulcan, Klingon and Risa. And the theme... guess. I wasn't originally going to put us in, but then I had this idea... booths aren't required to be in theme. But what if we could make a Trek-era travel agency, specialising in holidays on Pern. It'd be quite simple, clean lines, and constantly changing posters based off pics of Gianfar & dragons." General enthusiasm occurred. Easy build and we can use lots of pics around the sims. Federation ships wouldn't go to Pern, but a holodeck could create a Pern holiday. And an SF con is OOC anyway.

   Wyn's in negotiations with Sylvia to buy Thuban for us. The LL fee is US$300 to maintain grandfathering. (The lower tier for grandfathered sims repays that fee in six months or so.) Tier day is the 8th, so it would be best to do it this weekend. Donations have been enough to pay tier so far and hopefully that will continue.
   Noted in passing: if you buy a sim directly from the owner, paying the transfer fee, and move and rename it at the time of purchase, the fees for moving and for renaming are waived.

   Azdra displayed a set of little dragon plushies in Pern colors, plus a purple one for RFL. They'll have a 'hold' script so one can be carried on a hand.

   Still having problems with riders and dragons not being able to be here at the same time... or at all, in some cases. People get excited about flying Thread but seem unwilling to spend time learning how.
   We'll meet at the Rest to discuss the problem informally.


   Full sim tiers, all our ads, and Thuban's rent were paid yesterday. So we're here for another month. And rents are due, for anyone who hasn't paid up yet.

SL13B, part 1:
   Neither we nor Pandora were allocated a booth in the first round, but that error was quickly remedied. We have a booth so close to the Welcome Area sim, we might as well be on it. And right by the pod tour barns - separated only by some open space. We're pretty much guaranteed traffic. And lag. It's not the sea parcel we wanted, but it'll definitely do. And Vee is an EA there, meaning she has parcel powers. If Pandora doesn't get a parcel on Tuesday, we offered to share with Jade, which could be interesting.
   The idea if we are on our own is a ship in threadfall. Hopefully we can get enough terraforming to have Linden water, if not it will have to be prim water. Not ideal but doable. How would a ship be shielded? Slate, or maybe pumice, which is rock that's lighter than water? And how to shield the sides? Decided to postpone decisions until Tuesday when we'll presumably know whether we'll be sharing a booth with Pandora.

   Those who've seen our castle like it. And now we need your money, and as much PR as we can get... the more we can get into our RFL tip jar, the better our chances of landing a really big donation to RFL.
   Vee was chatting with Snow at IoW about a hatchie raid for our CHG castle...
   June 2nd, 2 till 4 is the Castle Dance at the build. Azdra will be dusting off her mic and DJing for the first time in over a year. Vee might tweak Threadfall for the dance, and add the first iteration of the demo Flamethrowers.
   Azdra has walked through the sims and there are a lot of good builds there...all done for RFL. The builds will be auctioned off on the last day of the event for anyone: 3-4 pm next Saturday. That'll be a live auction.
   There is a hunt going on as well.
   All proceeds that are donated and won go directly to RFL.  

   Azdra is working on a plushie dragon for sale at RFL weekend in July. Dragons are so cute! She will be tweaking all the colors so that the entire "rainbow" of colors are available.

Qatalina's story:
   About Una's plans for pre-RP ahead of her arrival. If anyone has any hold-related RP that could precede her arrival, please do think about it. Seems like a good time for that. Anything for your own holder characters. If someone has an idea Una's happy to wait. Otherwise at some point she'll pick a day for Qat's arrival.
   R'iss: ardrhys made a suggestion as part of RP to pair a harper trainee with a weyrling to visit a remote Hold, well could be any hold really...
   Vee: And we have a 'remote hold' on Tyl. Convenient.
   R'iss: deliver some teaching. Weyrling gets experience of official hold visits and harper gets a kind of bodyguard. We could even do it as a special one off (series of one offs?) with people using some of their alts, NPCs etc like we did when we found the shipwrecked pair. I am sure we could dream up some other additional things that could happen during those visits to remote holds.
   Una: mhm anything - and at the end, ship comes in and that's my lead-in. One question I have is, once the ship docks and she sneaks off, would it be a few days before she's found or be found right away (day or two)?
   ardrhys: Moira and I visited the docks in our mid week class. We were guessing that we would need some RP (with NPCs) about the ship's arrival. So later Qat could sneak inland and start the whole thing off.
   Z'ron: The hunt would start right away if you accept that Fovin knows about you.
   Una: ok - that's fine - just thinking where she can reasonably hide out - how far she'd have gotten on foot.
   Vee: It's not easy to get out of Dolphinhold, but she could escape on a cargo train to the Hold, or maybe get to the smuggler mines on north Kuma.
   Shanna: Perhaps the status of trips to the mainland needs clarifying.
   Z'ron: I have a notecard about what I think Your Mark's Worth [Ludo's family business, supported by her sea-trader father Fovin] has been doing.
   The notecard proposes that trader Fovin sails between Gianfar and Tillek (Anne having forgotten to put any seaholds on the east coast of the mainland). Qat could stow away on Fovin's ship in Tillek, be discovered en route, and escape from the ship at Dolphinhold. (Shanna's backstory is that she too was a stowaway from Tillek, back in the good old days before Thread resumed. Nice match!)
   We'll discuss the story further before committing an act of RP with it - it deserves to be developed.

   Wyn's been approached by Sylvia about transferring ownership of Thuban to us. Tier day is the 8th, so Wyn will contact LL and see what needs to be done to keep the grandfathered status.

SL13B, part 2:
   There's to be a GIANT SNAIL RACE on Saturday the 4th at 2pm. It will be to raise money for the American Cancer Society, Relay for Life and will be through the sims of the Castle contest. There are 12 themes, click on the following link ...!themes/mjk70
... and pick one that you might like to decorate your snail to. Vee has the 'giant snail racing package' if anyone's interested. You can get stuff to decorate with at the main Snail Race track: Gullwing Coast Racers (151,99,777).
   Shanna posted a picture of a two-headed dragon snail ...

   We'll start in Dolphinhold/Fisherhall, to inspect the ship that's been moored waiting for RP to arrive.  

Mid-week meeting:
   We'll meet on Wednesday to continue discussion of SL13B and RP and so forth.


   Continue stable, full sim tiers due on the 28th and half-yearly website fees tomorrow, all covered. We're here for another month.

   If any of you know any live acts who'd like exposure, have them apply. Seems applications are down for live performances this year, Doc's even asking already-applied acts to request second slots. Dance, song, drama, talks, classes, whatever.

   Need people to talk to about harpers. Z'ron just got an idea. Maybe people other than harpers could leave ideas about what they'd like to see harpers doing in the report drum (Harper Hall, 2nd floor, to the right at the top of the stairs, outside the door of the Music Master's Office). Moira thinks anyone with a group tag can drop a NC. Harpers just need to keep an eye on them - too many NC's and the menu won't display.
   Moira's working on final edits of the Harper procedure document.

Qatalina's story:
   Una thanked folks who'd given input on Qat's backstory, and would welcome more. How would the story start - with her being discovered here, or with a lead-in segment? That seems like a good way to start a trading/fisher/hold story if anyone wants to take that and go with it. (We have a very nice ship for that part of the story.) It seems like a lot of us would be interested in some aspect of a trader ship arriving - goods, news, etc. The lead-in could end at the point where Qat is discovered.

RFL show:
    There was a band concert last Friday; a lot of fun was had and over 1000 was raised. It would've been better without the unscheduled SL maintenance, though.

   Maybe we can revive market days, which we haven't had in several years. Vee reminded us that we have a standing policy of supporting our players' other endeavours. Shops, DJ gigs, performances, whatever. Whether Gianfar-related or not.

Castles, Homes, and Gardens:
   "The Castle, Home and Garden Contest is a virtual competition which takes place annually in the virtual metaverse Second Life. Contestants from all over Second Life use the building tools provided within SL to build their own castles, homes or gardens. The builds are displayed over a set of days, wherein both a set of impartial judges and the public at large can vote for their favourite castles. All proceeds from the Castle, Home and Garden Contest go towards Relay for Life of Second Life, a charity organisation supporting the American Cancer Society. The Castle, Home and Garden Contest 2016 will take place from May 23rd until June 4th, 2016. It will take place over 8 [maybe 12] sims in the virtual metaverse Second Life. The contest will follow a unified theme of "Once Upon A Cure" with an additional focus on 8 literary pieces of work (each sim will follow a literary piece)."
   There are shops/vendors/and lots of builds. We are on the Pern sim, a quarter sim, max 3k prims, Pern theme. Azdra needs a LOT of help setting up for this: building, people to stand at the castle and be social butterflies. ALSO...Monday, June 6, from 2-4 pm slt is the time slot that we have gotten for the Castle dance. Azdra has put an idea out to Wyn to recreate the hold here... with the castle built into the side of the mountain. Vee has particle mini-Thread up on her workfloor, complete with mini-dragons that flame, left over from earlier SLB's & sci-fi cons. The castles are auctioned off as a One of a Kind Auction - just the castles, not the whole scene. But the building has to be done TODAY.

   No exciting ideas today; gather at the Rest and see what develops... "unless we just move over to the build site and help out by telling Jade and Wyn and Azdra what they're doing wrong." Vee posted a Notice with the LM to the build site... but we couldn't get there... it's by invitation-only group.
   We discussed having RP storyline development sessions, maybe during midweek class time... or by passing notecards around... or on the website... or by Google Docs as we're doing with Qat's backstory. We could visit other sites to get seeds for brainstorming.

Title: Colin's meeting notes (book 21)
Post by: Colin on July 03, 2016, 07:51:30 PM
[continued in book 22]


   Are good so far. Vee fixed the payment issue from last week, so Shaula is paid for, and went around all our paid ads last night. Next tier is Thuban on the 8th, and is covered. Right now, we think we're good for a couple of months. But please don't stop donating or paying rent.  <grins>

   R'iss was without an Internet connection, Wyn was with a cold; John, Rodney, M'thos, and Azdra were likely to be in the UFS universe for most of the rest of the month.

Sci-Fi Faire
   The Milky Way Cabaret will be putting on a show. Vee probably won't be dancing.

   We have a lot of build projects currently mothballed or frozen. We have two applicants who have building skills but not much knowledge of Pern.  We have Jade, who works well with a team.    We have people who can do 'this' and others who can do 'that'. We need a supervisor, and to break projects down into small pieces with no short deadlines.
   For Thuban, we need to have Vee prepare the terrain map so that Wyn can apply it.  And there's one build to be done.
   We need, and have, people who are good at helping builders by doing walkthroughs, finding things that don't quite fit, and especially falling through holes.
   Vee and/or Wyn will set up a meeting to discuss what needs to be done, how, when, by whom.

   We'll meet in Smithcraft/Minecraft, in Tyl, to hunt tunnel snakes. Z'ron made an avatar of one (box on the Council table, L$1, full perm) last week for the very successful 'harvest glows' RP.  


   Vee reported, "Are... interesting. Tiers are covered, but LL messed up billing on Thursday and we haven't managed to process the Full tiers yet. They will get paid, eventually, honest. All other bills are up to date, next tier is Thuban on the 8th."

   Z'ron reported, "We just lost our only journeyman, leaving me and a few apprentices active. I've been looking at the records. I have noted that Apprentice Harper Una is about to complete a Master's requirement, leading role play. The big holdup in getting master level harpers is they're required to mentor an apprentice. I'd like an opinion. Should we remove that requirement? Should we keep it and make exceptions so we can get a staff?" We need to bypass the promotion procedures until we can get the ranks filled again. After discussion, we agreed that Z'ron should send a note to Masterharper Isarma proposing, per Vee's suggestion, that the Masterharper functions be delegated to Z'ron.

   We'll be harvesting glows in the new mines, in Tyl.  We will try very hard to stay together as a group, following our guide, Colin. We will harvest in 4 areas, then meet back outside to make a new basket. Then we will hear the song we've all heard as children (which I'm sure you'll all remember  mhm) and enjoy the days good work. Hopefully we will get as many participating as can make it, human, flit and dragon. We need the flits to watch out for tunnel snakes and rock slides and such... much to do much to do... hope all can join in. We will also try to keep this to about 90 min so we can wrap up in time for thread... which means we need to meet on time. People who are late will have to tp in.  
   So watch for a notecard in a bit and please do take a mo to read it.


   Are still good. FS tiers are due later this week and are covered. Rents are due by Wednesday, btw... and Vee will be paying ad rents after this meeting.

   Vee reported that "One of the Russians finally got estate banned last night, along with one of her friends. They both rezzed 200+ prims in shopping bags in Dolphinhold. Along with odd bags on other sims, many in the Weyrbowl."

Portland West
   It appears that the deal is off.

Pandora Universe
   They raised the funds for their tier AND managed to get the sim grandfathered... which took effect within a couple hours, so the tier due is at the lower rate.

   The Sims did stay open until Wednesday, when there was a 'tsunami party' on the activity sims. Be nice if it was longer. And we did get an award for fundraising.  

Sci-Fi Faire
   We have a booth, Vee has the landgroup for it, "and Wyn keeps poking me about ideas for the build." This should be our simplest build of the year, and we have such a long lead time.

New time for RP class
   Class is at noon today and from now on.  

Una's RP
   Too many key people were going to be absent from RP for a month or so. We'll just continue refining the plans.


   Having just survived RFL, we met at our site there and 'met' in group chat. We were sitting more comfortably than usual, thanks to cushions provided by Wyn.
   Arryn (karolinea1012) is back with us after a year in RL.
   Moira's dropped out, overwhelmed with RL. She passed her Harper records to Z'ron. She'd be welcome to rejoin us any time.

   HS tiers were paid a few days ago. An issue with Thuban tier was cleared up, all ads are paid up. We're in surprisingly good shape for the next month or so.  
   Nothing new on Portland West.
   Wyn has a request... if anyone is wanting to help fund Thuban, please donate via her paypal link, instead of the inworld tipjars. So we don't have to pay the Lindens twice.
   If tier is not raised by the 25th, Pandora Universe will go offline. That's not txep's but is the oldest Pandora site - 6 1/2 years.

   Dragons for a Cure raised ~L$75,000 and got a "Rising Star" fundraising award. Not bad for our first year!
   Vee: "I want to record our thanks to Azdra for making us take part, and Wyn & Ortath for their work on the campsite."
   John noted that Azdra's already thinking about next year.

Sci-Fi Faire
   Our next project, in September, one of two off-season events scheduled by the SL SF Con folks. Only three sims (RFL had 35!), only two with booths. We're taking only a small booth.

   Starting Una's arc about Qat's arrival next week.
   Today, turn up at the Rest and see what happens.
   Vee will be doing her NCI "RP Basics" class today, at 1pm as usual; but might move back to noon starting next week. That will NOT change our meeting time.


   Are still good. Thuban tier went through last week, Vee paid all our ad bills last night, HS tiers are due on the 15th & covered.

   Vee apologized for letting her RL get in the way of creating the display, and thanked Wyn and Jade for their hard work.

   The event opens next Saturday. we have a large site 128x120 with 2500 prims and it's a waterside location. We are on the entrance to the Inspire Sim opposite Dr Seuss and next to Frank Sinatra. We have plenty of prims for the large ship and several dolphins. Ortath's dolphins should work for RFL, which has higher script limits than SLB had. We will definitely need people on the parcel during RFL weekend to greet people and talk to them.  We'll be able to terraform. Five builders are allowed, of whom two can be terraformers.
   Opening ceremony is 10 am on Saturday the 16th and closing ceremony is at 10 am Sunday.  Azdra has a copy of the themes and lap information, one can ask her for a copy of the NC.

Una's alt's story
   Una's posted the background of her alt Qatalina, at
   And a draft outline of RP for Qat's arrival, at
   We discussed the RP, including how to handle NPCs for the captain of the trading ship on which Qat had stowed away; and to whom Tennar (who runs Runners' Rest) would report thefts from his supply cavern; and what would be done with Qat after she's captured.
   We'll likely start the RP next weekend... but RFL runs till 10 am Sunday... so some of us may be sleeping for the rest of that day. Stay tuned.

Portland West
   Ardrhys wondered how much interest there was in that sim coming here. It wouldn't fit as is and would need some work. But if that was done would it make sense to add it and is it of long term interest?
   That led into a discussion of the Regions that our island has had over the years... Acubans, Altais, and Gianfar which was renamed Kuma to protect Soo's trademark of the name "Gianfar."
   We'll continue this topic awaiting talks among ardrhys, Wyn, and Sylvia.

   2 pm at the Rest as usual.


   Full sim tiers were paid last week, next up is Thuban on the 8th, then the other HS's on the 15th. All covered.

Fisher Hall news
   Masterfisher Ayer, who hasn't been seen in years, has agreed to release the title.

Nekome news
   John found Nekome online and talked with her for about an hour. (For those who "tuned in late," she's one of our very earliest members and built a good deal of our oldest structures - like the floors of the Hold. She hadn't been seen online for years.) She has very limited access to a very limited computer. She OK'd moving her builds from Sylvia's Portland region to here.

Griefer above Tyl Friday
   John spotted a particle cloud over Tyl, investigated, found a nasty griefer: sound spam, text spam, particle spam, and pushing him around. He killed it and Vee estate-banned the perpetrator.

Building on Gianfar
   A quick review from Vee, triggered by the griefing:
   "Back when Soo bought the sims and created Gianfar, GPoP was the landgroup. Build was restricted to GPoP. Most of the membership was actually in DoP [Dragons of Pern]. I think that was true even after Soo disappeared. When we nearly lost the sims and Ludo, Sylv, Wyn & I bought them from Soo, we had a couple of issues straight off. One is, we don't own the Gianfar name. It's Soo's trademark. Another is, we didn't want to go through those last few hours of trying to save whatever we could, again. [Only by the kindness of LL were we saved from losing the sims for lack of tier payments. -Colin]
   " So, at a meeting we held at one of Sky's [Skylarian Isachenko, of IoW, who's since dropped out of SL -Colin] places, iirc, we decided to split the player group - GPoP - from the land group. Novi Peaks - named after Soo (Novi) - was created to be owned by a number of the Gianfar admins, so - if the sim owners disappeared - there'd be a number of people with land & group powers, able to pick deeded stuff up, manage land settings, generally save us much trouble - and the land wouldn't be in the Gianfar name (but still honours our founder). GPoP is much more narrowly owned, which is right for a player group. Player groups are easily reconstituted, they don't own anything except member lists. Land groups, not so much.
   "Another reason for having a separate landgroup was, the malls. 3 of the sims planned to have malls, and I was renting half of Shaula (vertically) to another RP. Merchants and non-Gianfar players didn't need to be getting Gianfar chatter & notices.
   "Anyway... we need to be able to rez on our sims. Flame requires rezz, or Thread can't be hit & won't burn. Straps need to be rezzed to be sat on. But we didn't want to require all Riders and Dragons to have the landgroup. So... we opened the build, and held our breath... And the sky didn't fall.
   "The few times we've been griefed, we haven't even needed to close build. The malls are gone now, except for the skeleton of Wyn's mall, but Wyn has builders dropping in from NCI or BB all the time, to show her things or make things. And it's been an advantage to allow others to rez things here temporarily. When we started getting shoppers unpacking - mostly underwater in Etamin - Wyn and I felt that we didn't mind the traffic, and cleaning up wasn't a major chore. Most shoppers we contacted actually apologised for forgetting to pick up bags, even.
   "The Russians are a more recent problem... they mostly land in Tyl, and they mostly don't think they need to respect our rules because 'they don't speak English'. Some of them rezz vehicles, although the house-building seems to have stopped. And they hardly ever clean up. (There's also a Spanish clothes designer who pops up on Thuban and leaves dress models all over the place, once every couple of months.)
   "We can't ban people by group membership. There's no land or sim tools for it, and no way for a script to detect anything other than active membership of the group [which] the object the script is in is a part of. (Not totally true, but close enough. I have a workaround for the sim greeters, but it only works for our groups.)
   "Which is where the experimental scripts on Tyl come in. Now that SLB's about over [and RL stresses have eased], I'm hoping to finish them. I'm debating changing the Experience setting, btw. Only offer the Experience if someone tries to rezz something. Return objects rezzed without the Experience. Force-tp anyone who rezzes, and has the Experience, to a changing-room level. Basically, as you enter the script's area of control, have it check if you're a player, and if not, ask if you're a visitor or want to rezz stuff. Anyone who responds not a visitor, or who rezzes anything without replying, gets the experience request. Don't accept within a minute, get tp'd home, objects returned, and a half-hour estate ban.  (Don't need Experience to send someone home.)  Accept the Experience, and be offered a tp to the changing rooms - which will be forced if they attempt to rezz anywhere except the area at... 2500, I think... where we'll let them rezz. Rezz over 10 prims, get a warning & time to pick up. Over 100, get sent home & estate banned for half an hour.
   Most of that code works, but there was a bug in the player detection - if the Gianfar server is offline and a player isn't wearing a Gianfar tag, a player could end up being sent home accidentally for already having stuff rezzed before they got here. I'm fixing that by effectively grandfathering in existing prims - if you have prims in-sim when the script starts, you 'must' be a player. (The Experience lets me share that info across sims, so eventually, just having prims in any sim [of ours] will qualify.) Different version of the script for Kuma, Wyn wants 'safe zones' for her builders there, and probably on Thuban. But same deal - if you have a prim here and we haven't removed it, you're assumed to be a player and immune from being returned home (unless the Gianfar server's database knows better).  

   Una and Z'ron have been outlining what will happen when that stowaway arrives on a trader's ship. We pondered what Gianfar could offer to justify a long hazardous voyage from the mainland. Nothing identifiable as being from here... no Marks of course as they'd be obvious "counterfeits"... a matter to be thought about.
   Those of us who are around during this holiday weekend will meet at the Rest at 2pm as usual, and come up with something to do.

Title: Colin's meeting notes (book 22)
Post by: Colin on August 14, 2016, 07:24:06 PM
[continued in book 23]


   Again discussed the Council Room chairs and their vanishing-poseball feature.

   R'iss is still having Internet problems and can log in only during UK daytime.
   Wyn's having back trouble.
   It's raining in California! And it's stopped raining in Carolina.
   No NCI "RP Basics" class today; Vee will be deep in RL coursework, and at the moment she's NCI's only RP teacher. (Volunteers wanted.)

   HS tiers paid yesterday, Novi's balance is very healthy (thanks, all!), ads paid yesterday. Full tiers due on the 28th.

   Master Simile will teach next Wednesday: Scroll Rack and Harper Business.
   The Harpers would like to hold harperish events, like bardic circles, and various harper exercises. Those would be of general interest.

   Discussed the tithing train RP that's to come up soon.  Today, an IC meeting of Craft heads to plan the gathering; next week, the train leaves Smithcraft/Minercraft, passes Beastcraft (collecting a herd) and Tannercraft and Vintners, and maybe is caught in an early blizzard on the Etamin shore. Following week (5th Sunday of the month), arrival at the Weyr and a Gather. All the above indelibly inscribed in sandstone, of course.
   We'll meet at Minercraft today: NE corner of Tyl and high on the ridge. This will be an IC meeting to plan the tithing process.


Canadian Thanksgiving
   ... is today.

   Thuban tier was due yesterday, but LL haven't taken it yet. it's covered by funds in Novi, so we're good. Next up is HS tiers, also covered, due on the 15th.  

   There will be a class Wednesday at 1pm, in the Harper Quintet meeting room... with new chairs having sit targets!  

Council Room chairs
   Z'ron offered to provide a new set of chairs for the Council Chamber, matching the ones she made for the Harper room.  

   Last week we harvested numbweed, so this week we'll cook it - in Thuban where only the Heroes of the Weed will suffer from the stench.
   Soon we should prepare for the Tithing RP.  Crafts should prepare, even if NPCs are needed to fill the roles.
   And Anne's memorial will probably be held on Sunday, Nov. 20th (she died on the 21st).


   Full tier due 28th, covered. Quietly optimistic about RL.

Sharing our space
   BlueAgate's Trek group dropped by to use our facilities last Tuesday. (As was discussed and approved last week.) Vee was onsim at the time, scripting, and heard they had a good time.

   Thalia, Z'ron's alt, will give Vee the latest revision of the promotion standards.
   Z'ron built new chairs for the Harper Hall meeting room. They're much easier to sit in, still minimal prim count and script load.
   There'll be a Harper class at 1pm Wednesday, the third in the event to story to song series.

Klah mugs
   Vee has put newly scripted klah pots in the Council Chamber and Runners' Rest. The pots, made by Soo, now give temp-attach drinks. That will save cluttering our inventories with drinks (and tables with forgotten ones).

   No one came up with an idea for today's RP.
   Brainstormed about a 'harvest' event, as Halloween is coming in RL. Perhaps harvesting numbweed, with Thuban standing for a jungle area. We might do that next week.


   HS tiers were due last week and were paid. Fulls are due on the 28th. Vee paid all our ad bills last night. Wyn & Vee are still at the point that they'll have to cut back after Oct 1.

Harper advancement requirements
   Discussed, at length, the latest draft of the requirements document.  

Building plans
   People who notice things that should be added or could be improved should make a list that would get to Wyn.
   Wyn's gradually trying to rebuild so everything can be in the build group going forward and we can turn off "non-group" building.
    Discussed the G&S equipment that's in Smithcraft Hall. It's RP "stuff" that allows one to collect materials with which to build things which one could sell; or to raise crops to feed (non-Pernese) livestock which ditto. It hadn't had much use.
   txep reported that the PHT group is looking into Unity systems, which might be a substitute for G&S.
   John volunteered Studio Skye Mushroom rocks, txep and Z'ron had the Cube Republic cave system. We might be able to have better looking tunnels with less land impact.
   Speculative building occurred on the work platform over Thuban.

Sci-Fi Faire
   Ran out of time to discuss it; meeting lasted more than 2-3/4 hours.  



We met at the Gianfar site in the Sci-Fi Faire regions.

   "Thuban tier came due last week and was covered, the other HS's come up this week and are covered. Still worried going forward, but some good prospects this week. Wyn & I decided to prioritise the full sims - we think we can afford the tier on them for a few months more."

Sci-Fi Faire
   Vee: "Have to thank Wyn for this booth - I'd planned something much simpler, but she took one look at this sim, and dragged the Dome out... and it fits. The poster tubes are an experiment of mine... the posters are particles, so they always face you. They're also info givers, although not actually labelled as such. The outside 4 tubes are static, I could descript them. The inner 3 are pulling images from an invisible preloader object. And communicating with each other so posters should never duplicate. The flickering when they change is because you're actually seeing 4 particles at a time. That was a lucky accident - turns out if I just project 1 particle, you get visible gaps. Worse when you add all the other particles on this sim. I settled on 4 particles as the number that works here best for the least effort, I may change that for Gianfar. Wyn made the posters in a marathon 3-hour gimping session. Not sure how many there are, 12 I think... the preloader can handle 18, and is easy to add to if we need more.
   And if you can, take the Fantasy Flight [4pm], and/or watch the Milky Way Cabaret (performances at noon & 9pm today)." She said she'd put the LM to the Cabaret in a Notice after the meeting.
   Una suggested, "Idea for future posters:  along with regular Join, what about JOIN a crafthall   JOIN Dragons of Gianfar    JOIN as a fun loving flit    etc.    just to show the enticing variety of options to joining."
   Moira added, "With a picture showing someone in that role."
   Vee: "Wyn says, anyone can make a poster.  The font is Dark Crystal, the images are aspect 640x400, uploaded as 256x512 textures. The font is available at, comes in a hollow version and a solid (which uploads as font name 'Regular'). I think I copied that right. And I think she plans on taking more pics for posters today."
   Thalia: "We need a "Join- as a harper" poster, with maybe a pic of an ensemble group playing."

Request from BlueAgate:
   She asked how we would feel about letting her Galaxy Fleet Command RP group borrow part of our RP area when we're not using it? Specifically mentioning our mines, Vee thinks. We'll approve that subject to fixing times, and yes, warning visitors. Vee can turn off the Experience request for the duration, if needed. Or they can just ignore it, unless they need to rez something (the script in test sends home anyone not in group who rezzes without first getting the Experience). Blue had warned them about our "no weapons" policy.

Harper classes
   ...are being held Wednesdays at 1:00. We also need to give classes later or on weekends, and not in RP time.

   Harpers might do something; the Weyrleader might be having an issue with the Lady Holder.

Vee's RP class is cancelled today.


   Full tiers came due on the 28th and were paid. Thuban's due on the 8th and is covered. Vee went around our ads last night and renewed them all, and got us a slot on the sci-fi level at the new WoRPG place. (Fantasy level was full!) Tiers should be covered for this month. However, past the end of this month is still dependent on Vee getting a job. or at least an income. (Packets of Lindens landed in the donation box.)

Vee's availability
   She was out of SL all week - hadn't logged in since last Sunday. If anyone sent an IM and didn't get a reply, apologies, it didn't reach her email. She will be around more this week - probably quite a lot tomorrow/Labor Day, which she'd earmarked for scripting.

Project Sansar
   Vee reported: "But <she says, segueing smoothly> I didn't stay away from SL entirely... I discovered a bit about SL version 2, spoke to a few people who've been there, even saw a bit. I've been asked about it in the past, in particular what happens to Gianfar when Sansar goes live, and I can now answer that, a bit... Nothing happens to Gianfar for some time. We won't be moving. Sansar isn't designed for current SL residents. It's a lovely virtual world, but... it's not one continuous shared world, like SL. The inworld build tools are very different - you don't live-build, you go into an 'edit mode', make your changes, and 'publish' them. LL are working on a 'shared edit' mode. If Gianfar moved, we'd be alone in our own space - which could be a lot larger, Sansar is implementing variable-size regions, up to 4km on a side I think. The land will be cheaper - but there won't be any way for new players to find us. The building & rendering is amazing, btw. But the scripting is about where SL was when I joined. In my opinion, to make the move, we'd have to be a bustling, lively sim already. We'd also need mesh dragons, and full access to their scripts (so we could translate them - LL haven't even started on transfer tools yet). And there would need to be some sort of RPG exchange, like the RPC & WoRPG, already active & serving other RPs. Or we'll never get found. This is just a guess on my part, but... it looks to me like Sansar is designed for already-established virtual communities looking for a world, and for MMO game studios who want a build/distribution platform without the effort involved in building server farms for 'traditional' platforms. It's not for SL creators & socialisers, LL themselves are saying that. They're not even planning for helping SL residents make the transition. Someone I talked to who might actually know said LL *may* make a single unifying map for Sansar, and there will be some sort of inter-region transition... but that's all extras for later, it's not fundamental to LL's planning. Oh, one long-overdue change... you'll have a single account - and our SL names are reserved as account names in Sansar - but each account can have multiple avatars. Inventory sharing is part of the plan, although not implemented yet, I gather. I think LL plan to go to open beta soon, and go live with a minimal Sansar by the end of the year, but there's no fixed timetable as far as I can tell, just 'guidelines', mostly aimed at investors."
   Jade: "there is one "up" to this... some of what they've developed, or plan to develop, can be passed BACK to SL."
   Vee: "Yes, very true - the inworld mesh editor I got a peek at seems easy to use and intuitive, it could be ported back to SL - or used in Sansar to make things to export to SL. SL's going to be LL's cash cow for a while longer, anyway."

Sci-Fi Faire
   Vee: "I have to go pick up our parcel today, build opened days ago. Glad our build plan is simple... but I have a request... Our plan is a Trek/Vulcan-look travel agency. So, room, couple chairs, desk, maybe, and... posters. I have a good script for a preloading cycling texture display - we've used it at sci-fi cons & SLBs, there are 4 of them in the welcome area now. But if anyone feels like making some posters for displays to, well, display... "

   Nothing planned. Holiday weekend in the US, some people sick. Whoever shows up at the Rest will do something or not.


Weyrleader Star has returned! Major rejoicing and babbling occurred.

Master Fireworker (if we had such a title) Gelgesith is interested in being a firelizard, or a dragon if riders are available.

   Full tiers are due today and are covered. So are HS tiers on the 15th and Thuban on the 8th.

   Z'ron taught a Harper class last week: Lyrics and meter and rhyme. Ardrhys wrote it up so that others could teach it. Z'ron's thinking of teaching a class weekly if students can agree on a time. Wednesday at 1:00 was agreed on for this week and should be OK for her, most weeks; Thursdays are possible. This week, Learningmaster Tristin will discuss record keeping and the tools we have for it.
   It'd be nice if we had folks who could give classes at European and Australian times.
   The revised Harper rules are almost ready to give to Vee.

SF Con
   Z'ron got the job of building a booth for UFS, celebrating 50 years of Star Trek, and needs a source of public domain pictures from those 50 years.

   Remember that Vee teaches RP Basics at NCI, at noon each Sunday.
   Weyrlingmaster R'iss will give a Weyr tour. We'll meet at the Rest at 2:00 as usual, and head east.


   Full sim tiers due on the 28th, covered. Ad rents due today, covered. Next month could start becoming a problem, Wyn and Vee need to talk.

Portland West
   Wyn and Sylv talked yesterday, but inconclusively.


It was a very small meeting as the UFS folks were busy commissioning a starship.

   Thuban tier got paid last week, the other HSs are due tomorrow and are covered. We're still here & stable. All bills paid & up to date.

Griefer attack
   [Editorial comment: I very rarely report conversations verbatim, but this was an important matter and a statement of new rules for events; plus a discussion of "jelly dolls" and the new "avatar complexity" measure.]
   Vee's report: "Yesterday, we hosted Azdra's wedding, up on 3500. During the ceremony, there was a griefer attack, which crashed most of us, including me. Response to the attack was a somewhat panicked 'who don't we know? ban them!'... not helped by having several different groups present... We did actually ban the avi who launched the attack, btw. Seems it's someone with a grievance against the UFS 12th Fleet, or something. We know we got the right one, which is a good thing as we also AR'd him, because an alt of his considered his estate-banning a win for him. The griefer object seems to have been worn, not rezzed. So the first thing to note is the jellydoll didn't work, in this instance. I had Jellydoll on with complexity set high, and it bounced me.
   "Ok, so, after discussion with Wyn, we have a couple new rules for future events... and if anyone has any better ideas, we'll listen. When we host an outside event, we're going to lock down build to group-only during the event. That's just common sense, and it was applied during yesterday's ceremony. If there's a griefer attack, we'll do our best to ID the griefer and immediately estate-ban on both estates. But we have to insist that everyone present file an AR, as well. Too many groups don't file ARs because 'they don't work'. That's not been my experience. Get the attention of the Governance team with enough AR's, and LL are very good at banning alts of alts. (NCI's going through a thing with a minor griefer at the moment. he brings in a new alt once a week or so, teases the LO's on duty, and eventually gets banned for some minor infraction. He's careful never to be AR'd by more than a couple of NCI staff at a time.)
   "And that brings me to the aftermath... After the attack, when everyone was logging in, there was a concerted effort to identify anyone who *might* be a griefer and ban them. We don't want to see that again. We ban for infractions, not for wearing a loud shirt in a built-up area... but we don't want events we host to be griefed, either.  So, new rule: Guardians can ask for guests to be vouched for by trusted guests or other vouched-for guests. Anyone not vouched for can be ejected from the sim or tp'd down to ground level, but won't be estate or land-banned. If we consider the threat level requires it, we can even move to a guest list and access-only restrictions for the duration of the event. Decision on whether to use an access list is mine & Wyn's, alone. But holds on both estates.
   "Check LL's wiki for what Jellydoll is, but basically it's supposed to simplify avatar rendering when avatars get too complex for your viewer. LL's and Firestorm's current viewers have it. [Una supplied the URL in the LL wiki: ] One griefer trick is to attach an unrenderable object, so all other viewers try to render it and go insane... jellydoll was supposed to combat that, as well as avatar-induced lag. We think [that was what was done in this case]. Build was already set to group-only. [That doesn't crash the griefer because] the griefer either uses a griefer/copybot viewer (they're illegal - literally, using one breaks US law - but they're around), or travels in mouselook with 'see avatar in mouselook' disabled."
   Jade: "You can try this  maybe... set your complexity level a bit low before the event - then right click folks you know/trust and choose render fully. it holds for the session only, but if someone comes in wearing the "induce lag" outfit - it doesn't have a chance to work."
   Vee: "The default is set to max, but the max is actually a bit low for good GPU's. Which is going to lead a lot of people to turn jellydoll off."
   Jade: "I see jelly dolls on PHT quite a lot, I show complexity info and run my slider up enough to render the known people and if visitors aren't too much higher I just render them for the session."
   Vee: "I don't see them so often, but I've discovered already that a few of my outfits show as about double max complexity. And I don't even have a mesh body."
   Jade: "Mesh body and clothes are actually lower complexity - it seems to be based on how many prims were used to create the accessory. I have a very low script outfit I use for classes - it's almost three times the complexity of this one. This one is nearly all mesh."

   One of these days we'll do a numbweed harvest. Today we couldn't be sure of having enough people for it. So we'll meet in the Rest and do something.

Title: Colin's meeting notes (book 23)
Post by: Colin on October 23, 2016, 07:16:29 PM
        [c0ntinued in book 24]


(A full report despite my Internet outage, thanks to John's logs)

   Vee said, "Full sim tiers were paid early this morning. So, we're here for another month. Many thanks to everyone who's been donating, payment was made entirely from donations. Doubt we'll be able to do that in full again, so please, keep donating! <grins>"

Sci-fi Con
   Vee said, "As you may recall, last year we decided, in one of these meetings, not to take a con booth this year. So, for the first time in ages, Gianfar will have no presence at the con, even by proxy. I think we'll still take spots at the Faires, though - they'll have a different build team. I'm not doing Milky Way Cabaret, either, after last year., so I've no connection with this year's con in any capacity."

Sim redesign proposal
   Felrun had published a Notecard with comments and suggestions about the build.
   The suggestion that ceilings ought to be lower drew responses that it wasn't just because of camera angles - it was also to provide for large dragons.
   The suggestion that we use skyboxes more triggered discussion: should everything be on the ground for realistic RP? Or could experience teleports make it more natural to walk through a door into a room hundreds of meters in the sky? Perhaps things like the "3500" skybox would work. Now that prim limits have been increased, and the Outer Fleet build over Shaula has been dismantled, we could have terrain like valleys with cotholds to RP in.
   Gianfar looks unlived-in. Perhaps we could use something like G&S or Unity tools to add temporary clutter and RP possibilities. We're seeking a site that uses Unity but without combat.

   We could pick up the thread of Qatalina's arrival, that Una planned several months ago. We wouldn't know when a trading ship was coming in, until it was actually seen; so we'd have only several hours to prepare for it. But DolphinHold would still be receiving goods for trade to the mainland, which might come overland or by coasters - boats that stay close to the coast, tie up every night. Goods would need to be warehoused. We don't have a warehouse set yet, but things could be stacked along the wall in the covered docks area. The Harpers would be watching for news of trader ships, might be expecting a delivery of something. And anyone standing around would be "pressganged by dockers/longshoremen into helping with the goods coming in, recording them for the ship's quartermasters, weighing & measuring nonstandard crates, physically moving them... Loading & unloading a ship, even a modern container ship, is a complex business. Ships tend to fall over if you get it wrong. So a lot of information gets recorded about goods & cargo."


Meeting schedule
   From now on, "However late that annoying demon happens to be, at 11am prompt we switch to discussing RP, and pass on the rest of the agenda - except when we decide otherwise. And at 11:30, when I have to leave to set up class, we poll everyone present to see who plans to be at afternoon RP." Agreed by all.

   Full sim tiers (due next week) are covered from Novi's cash on hand. Vee will be paying ads today. So we're here for another month.

   Una and ardrhys have composed a song and are ready to play at the Turnover gather this afternoon.

Turnover gather
   We'll have IC and OOC activity, probably a two-player board game, trivia, dancing, Threadfall.
   Discussed other RP themes, including the mystery of where Ayla got that red pebble that she gave to Tannar (possible treasure hunt).


   Vee said, HS tiers got paid at 0:30 PST this morning. I need to check on ads today. Full sim tiers on the 28th are still in the air; last week's cold meant I had to put off some things that might fix that, rescheduled for this week. Also, not sure what Novi has in the bank... Just checked, looks like Novi has around L$150k. That's... impressive :) Looks like the full sim tiers are safe... (but let me check with Wyn later)

GS equipment
   Una said, Someone in the UFS (United Federation Starfleet) group donated a lot of GS items. A few months ago we'd started to decide whether or not to use such. We left off with the machinery being usable but supplies are locked via group. There's a winepress, grape field, weaving items, misc tools, and an iron mine.
   Vee said, We should definitely have a look at them :)
   ardrhys said, Yes we should be able to use them for RP. Who would be interested in expanding hold related RP with them?
   Jade said, if items can be put in a scene rezzer made to look like a bench or storage trunk... the items can be available for RP, but not be a constant land impact.  Rezzers are set to group access... if enough is left in the area it looks used, but when we RP there, we add the props, and can set up different scenes in the same rezzer.
   Vee said, It's something Wyn's been considering, she uses rezzers in her business, but we've just not needed them so far... we have spaces set aside for 'later' use and enough free prims - even before the expansion - to leave sets up semi-permanently. Would be useful for some of the sets that have multiple identities, though - our cothold has doubled as a Hall for several crafts, a runner station, and other things.
   Jade said, can completely change the appearance according to craft, or event, just by using a variety of suitable props.

RP question
   Some months ago after RP in the mines, we started a bit of a story about Ayla presenting Tennar with a gem. There was a germ of an idea around the mystery of where she got it. Una's wondering if anyone would like to expand that as a "meet at the rest" activity.  "Flit in the stew" is getting old.

Next week: Turnover    
   Where? Gather grounds near Harpers'? In the '3500' skybox? In the Hold?
   What to do? Dancing; sweeping up Thread dust, as it's midwinter. Trivia, but asked by a person at a slower pace than usual to leave time for conversation; might be nice to set the trivia ball up to ask on demand... whoever starts the game is in control of when the questions get asked. Jade's PHT group set up such a trivia ball, and Star had a list of Pern questions we used here before with the crystals Ortath set out.


((Thanks to Star for the meeting info! AT&T gave me an Internet-free weekend.))

    Full sim tiers got paid over Xmas, and Vee paid up all our ads last week. Thuban tier is due today and covered. But full sim tier for this month isn't covered, yet. Vee's "going to be away part of this week, situation may change before next meeting, fingers crossed."

    Didn't happen - not enough people around. Decided to postpone it to the 22nd, giving time for planning.

    Ortath's New Year's party reportedly went well... and went on and on, as the goal was to follow midnight across many time zones.


   We have enough money to get through the holidays, we will be here after Turnover.

   We watched furry visitors - two Russian, one possibly Japanese; at least one whom we've seen several times.

   ...have been having a good time with the Mikki Miles ensemble instruments. They might have a session in the Rest during RP time today.


Vee's news
   Yesterday, Vee officially became the NCI Education Coordinator.

   Vee: "I need to check that the tiers are covered, but I paid all but 2 of the ads last night - those 2 had to wait until after 9am today. Thuban tier on the 8th was covered, next up are the HS's on the 15th."

Upcoming meetings
   Next Sunday's will be the last for the year, as Christmas and New Year's fall on Sundays.

   We settled on January 8th. Thinking of a semi-OOC event, with us in character and guests however they please. We should start posting notices in other groups by next weekend, because no-one's going to be reading notices for 2 weekends straight, at a guess.

   This week's meeting will focus on what the Craft can do for Midwinter.

   Today, 2pm SLT at the Rest to talk about whatever comes up.
   After Turnover, we might pick up the thread that Una was developing a month or so ago... having her new character Qatalina arrive as a stowaway on a Trader's ship.


   The tithe train is to reach the Weyr today. We're assuming that we collected the Hold's contributions last week, before or after Ayla's clutch hatched. So, following the pattern of skipping the actual travel, we'll just meet in the Bowl. The area west of the fire circle has the most room for wagons and is close to the kitchen entrance.

   Will meet on Wednesday at 1pm to practice and work on performance ideas.


   Felrun was building a wher, showed us her work-in-progress. That triggered a long discussion and quick research about the beasts. (Wikipedia has an entry about them, of course.)
   And that led into the idea of someone in Gianfar learning enough about mesh that we could build our own dragons. The present ones are prims and sculpts.

Finances are OK.

Memorial service:
   Thanks to all who attended Anne's memorial service last week.

   Are working with the Mikki Miles ensemble instruments. Z'ron made a HUD overlay that makes them easier to play.

   The tithe train is to spend the night at the Hold today, and reach the Weyr next RL-Sunday. We decided that rather than the train stopping at Fisher/Dolphin Hall, which can be reached only by boat, the Fishercraft would deliver fresh seafood to the Weyr. We may 'camp' in the Hold kitchen at the west end of the first floor that's directly accessible from the stairs.
   Ayla's clutch is close to hatching... her nest is in Healers' Hall... lots of possibilities there.


   Bills paid.

Memorial service
   Will be held at 1:30, near the waterfall in the SW side of the Weyr Bowl. Open to the public. To be repeated tomorrow, the actual date of Anne's death, but time hasn't been set.  

   To be held at 2:00 in place of RP; probably at the dance floor in front of Harpers Hall in Kuma. OOC and open to the public.

   Had a class on ensemble playing last week, using the Mickey Miles instruments. Decided that it was so much fun they'd do more practicing.


   Vee thought the HS tiers due on the 15th were covered from Novi (needed to check with Wyn). Thuban tier on the 8th was covered. She paid all but 2 of our ads last night. So, we're here for another month, and we're not broke yet.

Next weekend
   Vee will be arranging for Anne's memorial service. Harpers should think about performing something related to Anne.

   There will be a class on ensemble instruments in Harper Hall at 1pm SLT Wednesday. Everyone is welcome, whether you have ensemble instruments or not; we have loaners.  

Group invitation
   pet Fhang sent invitations to join a newly formed group, Roleplay Finders.

   We continue to see Russian furries here during the week, and one was flying around during the meeting, but they seem to be leaving no prims.

   The tithe train is planning to camp at the old mines (north coast of Kuma (178, 251, 22)) today. We'll meet there, preferably having rezzed our wagons before the RP starts.


   We're still here. Next up is Thuban in 2 days, covered from Novi. HS tiers on the 15th are also covered. Ad bills are up to date as of last week. Upshot is, we should be here through Xmas.

Sci-Fi Con
   Vee's been asked to be one of the sim builders this year. "My own fault for being told the theme and instantly coming up with an idea." The theme is Elements. Earth, Air, Water, Life, Spirit - aka Life2 in the sim maps - and... Fire. We can guess which one's Vee's project!
   Vee: "Anyway, sim layouts are being finalised now, and I'm privy to some of the decisions the con has made - and RFL, ftm. Two of them concern me, and I haven't been told they're secret, so...
   "First is RFL. Note, this isn't the Alliance's decision, and isn't something we can influence. But next year's RFL vendors & tipjars will pick teams by region. So, all tipjars in an event like the Con will automatically feed to the meta-event's team, in this case team Sci-Fi.
   "The second decision is all Alliance... in past years, most con booths have been free, and exhibitors paid for upgrades. This year, all booths are paid. There are 16x16 'stalls' which are free, and may or may not be pre-built - we're still arguing that one. But, as there's only 4 of those per sim...the basic booth is a 32x32, for L$5000. As always, all fees go to Team Sci-Fi. It's my understanding that, like last year, a 'mysterious backer' is funding the event, meaning every L$ raised goes to RFL."
   There was then discussion of whether Gianfar or Dragons for a Cure would choose to participate under those conditions.

LL's announcement
   Vee: "Anyone here who owns some mainland is going to notice that their prim limits just went up. The change will roll out to private estates 'over the next few months', but differently. We'll get 20,000 instead of 15,000 but with the option to buy another 10,000. And it's the same for grandfathered sims.  A US$30 set-up fee (per sim), then US$30/month for the extra 10k - which, apparently, can be turned on/off by the sim owners, so it doesn't have to be an every-month deal."
   txep'ongokx: "the aim being that mesh and sculpt designers will up the LODs for better distance view performance, rather than packing in more items and textures."
   Vee: "Also reflects improvements in the... what is it, series 8?... servers LL is using now. Otoh, lag is going to go up. Anyway, this is just a heads-up. Wyn & I discussed this, and we probably won't allow more prims downstairs in the RP zone. Client lag during a fall is... annoying. But it means we might be able to rez more higher up, and it makes Fall on the HS's more... possible."
   We've converted some terrain in Shaula and Thuban to mesh; and the Hold is on the list ('way down the list) for a mesh rebuilding.  

Rod's request
    "I am running an RP on Thursday with the UFS ship the Maxwell (which Jayce is on). We need a medieval place, and I would like to use Kuma to introduce some of them to the sims. It's at 6pm SLT. You all would be invited to be NPCs." We had no issues with that, Wyn agreed, Vee officially approved it.
   In what role as NPCs? "We're acting out people who, like Pern, came from another planet to start over. but these ppl get carepackages from home. So, citizens and priests who take care of the carepackages. The planet doesn't actually know where the carepackages come from; it's more like Mom spying on you, even though you're on your own."  

   Simile missed last week's class - computer was down. This Wednesday at 1:00 SLT they'll do meter (as in music, not combat) and maybe ensemble instruments.

Anne's memorial
   Two weeks from today: memorial service on Sunday, repeated on Monday which is the date of her death.

   The tithe train will be overnighting at Winecraft today. Weather will be cold, expect snow. We'll at least be loading goods from Farmcraft and Winecraft.


Unofficial meeting
   Neither Vee nor Wyn was there.

   John rezzed a ballroom and dance balls over Kuma [Kuma (120,113,1253)] and we decided to try a masked ball in the RP time slot (2-4 pm SLT), as we'd discussed last week.
   Folks can set non-display of name tags, in their Preferences, to go along with the masking.
   Party will be OOC so non-Pern garb is recommended, to make it harder to guess who someone is.
   If anyone has a ghost story to tell, we could have a ghostly bardic circle.
   UFS was having a major RP event overlapping ours, so we expected to be without several major people.


IoW news
   Vee: "...added Snow Scarmon to GPoP, so we have an Isles representative here. This follows on from an IoW meeting Wyn & I were at yesterday."

   Vee: "Nothing to report, which is always nice. Next up is the full sim tiers on the 28th. We're shifting funds out of Novi for that."
   Wyn: "The donations have been terrific!  Thanks so much to everyone!"

   Simile: "I will be running a bardic circle and teaching others to run it, at one pm Wednesday. I will be teaching several games harpers play. All are welcome. Bring a short poem or story to share if you want to. My harpers asked me what they can do to entertain besides performing if rp gets dull. We will meet in front of Harper Hall instead of in it."

Anne's Day
   Vee: "For reference, Anne died on 21st Nov 2011, so this 21st will be 5 years. Also, a Monday, which, as usual, immediately follows a Sunday. I knew this was coming up, and had it pencilled in to talk about today. Then Snow invited Gianfar to an event planning meeting at the Isles. So now I have <cough> a few ideas for us all (and I already talked to a few people about some of this ;) )    "So, rough schedule for Sun 21st... 11am. TinyWood Squares, Pern edition, from somewhere on our sims (I suggest Kuma Gather Grounds). I can explain TWS, or you can go watch it ;) It starts at 11am, Limbo (106,114,26) in the Isles. That should finish around 12:30, so follow or overlap that with dragon racing - we have 2 courses, Wyrms has 1... then have our usual ceremony on Shaula at about 1:30. Followed by a party at 2, in place of our usual RP. I asked the Fairports and they said yes. :) (Wyn can set up a dance floor in Shaula.)
   "Oh, I should add that we'll hold the ceremony again on the actual day, Monday. Time TBD."

   Vee: "Oh, I had one more idea, not Anne's-day related. I can create temp flamer givers, like the flamethrower givers, and enable other dragons to fly Thread, just for an event. This'd be quite trivial, since I already have the scripts. And Wyn said she could shrink flamethrowers for hatchies & tinies... so get your asbestos shinguards ready."

Cooperation with IoW
   We're going to need cookies for the hatchies. Moira has "Lord Holder Cookies" in inventory - maybe those are the plate of cookies that Simile remembered that came with a sign that said "Lord Holder Cookies, do not touch" or something like that.. Forbidden fruit.
   Vee: "And across all that, since we're allied with all these Trek & Pandoran folks... wouldn't it be fun to race ikrans against our dragons against anyone else's, and to have 'away teams' have dragon encounters... so I talked to Azdra and Blue as well... (and to Jade, so that's both Blues :) ).

RP: today and the Gather
    Star: "We were able to get a good outline for the next month of RP days set up.  [Today:] Tithe train week 1 - Meet at Smiths, walk to Tanners and overnight there. Smiths meet at Tanners, from Tanners towards Vintners, and have Beastcraft herd meet along the way. We RP at places we stopped for the night."  
   Next Sunday will be the 5th one of the month, our traditional Gather Day. It's also the day before Halloween. Pern doesn't have a Halloween but we usually do something halloweenish; we did one "upstairs" last year. Maybe a ghost story bardic circle? John has the perfect ballroom, a skybox with walkway; we also have last year's platform and spooky houses. We might be able to put the ballroom in Kuma, hooked up to the "3500" skybox.

Title: Colin's meeting notes (book 24)
Post by: Colin on February 06, 2017, 01:22:27 AM
[continued in book 25]


   Vee got paid on Friday, just in time for HS tiers on Saturday! So we're actually stable again.

Vee's schedule
   It looks like she'll be working from home on Wednesdays - although maybe not this week.

Ayla's news
   She's to be married to asarock menna-Wemyss, Friday, May 5th, 12:30 pm slt, Avilion Nexus ballroom. We're all welcome. It's an OOC area - non-humans OK, wear whatever you think would work for a wedding guest. There will be a TP at the landing point.

   We'll explore Firelizard Island.


   Thanks to your donations, the sims have made it through the past few weeks! Thuban tier was paid last night. And Vee's first payday will be just in time for HS tier day.

   Colin talked with a wyvern named trickster yesterday.

Vee's schedule
   No NCI class today; Vee is travelling. Her work schedule is firming up: generally home soon after 5, and can work from home when she needs to (which might turn out to be Wednesdays); may change if she can move closer to work.

   We have two possibilities: searching the old mines for the source of Ayla's pretty stones that could be valuable trinkets, and exploring the caves on Firelizard Island.
   Discussed whether we could pull in more players by trying other times for RP. Saturdays seemed to be full for many people. Some time on a weekday? Are people just uninterested, or are they just too busy on weekends? Suggestions welcome!


   Please send more money. We haven't covered the FS tiers, and we can't cover Thuban on the 8th. Vee thinks we've enough in Novi & other places to cover 1 full.

   This is a new SL Web feature described in
which automatically creates pages for all places accessible by Search. We'll need lots of images, folks! 1980x1700, 852x486, and any YouTube vids we care to share. Vee will try to figure out how we make one page for Gianfar instead of one page per sim.
   We haven't found a way for anyone but place owners to see Places they don't own, without having been given a URL for that page.
   Seeing anything seems to require being logged in to SL, so only Residents could see Places... and only ones that were listed in Search and whose owners marked them as available in Places.

Pern Day
   Since we missed Pern Day - "Vee's fault for getting a job" - if we just want to party today, she'd be ok with that.
Vee's schedule
   "I have to be up far too early tomorrow, so I won't be staying on long today - far too much to get ready :/ and I'll be away later this week. Out of town Thu through Sat, limited internet access, probably no free time Friday. But back in time for next week's meeting. By then, I should know when I can work from home and stuff. And I should usually be home by 6, thinking of trying to be here regularly, maybe between 6 & 7 or 7 & 8 each night... I can script if no-one's around to RP."

   Maybe we'll just have a "Vee's job celebration dance."


   Vee is almost employed: starts work a week from tomorrow. She and Wyn raised some money to pay the overdue tiers. After her pay starts, on the 14th, we won't have to worry about tier. But we'll have to (and will probably be able to) persuade LL to let us skip payments until then.

   Vee will be able to spend most of next week rolling out scripts and fixes. Stand by for Thread v3! But she'll likely miss the week-after-next meeting. On the other hand, once settled in her new job she'll be able to work from home one or two days a week - so might be able to get to or host some weekday events.

   Z'ron clarified her remark from last week: she "didn't intend to say I would never teach regular classes again, but Colin says that's what I said. I need to know what people want, though. And no one else has asked for anything. I just found a good source for the music and mood class. That's about it."

   We'll have three or four people and two story lines to follow: Qat's integration into Gianfar life, and the search for the source of gemstones that Ayla dropped a few weeks ago. So, meeting at the Rest at 2 SLT.

Gianfar meeting 2017-03-19

   Vee: "I can tell you that HS tiers were paid, I paid all our ads up to date last night, and did a cleanup on the sims - surprising several Russian furries who were playing in the RP zone with returned primmage (they all left)."

   Discussed the chairs in the Council Room. Poseballs are unsightly but no one's put sit-scripts in the chairs. Vee's  chairs are full-perm but not linked to the poseballs. She gave Z'ron a chair; Z'ron can give it back with a sit-script installed, and Vee could replace all the chairs with that one.

   Z'ron suggested "a class on how music influences mood. People who know that can improvise better. But I haven't written the class yet. If anyone else wants to do it feel free. And if anyone else tells me we need something that we don't have I'll try to write it. I'm just not good at remembering classes that happen after hubby is off work. So I won't be doing regular classes at  one or two pm any more."

   Possibilities for activities around Firelizard Island: Maybe we heard that the fishing is good and we can fish and RP. Maybe we came to see if that ship that's grounded there can be salvaged. Maybe we got a clue that Ayla's gems are there - it wouldn't have to be true. Maybe we've seen our young flits fly off that way and we're wondering what they're up to. Maybe we're after flit eggs, we want to find a nest or three or four. If we want to do that we should have someone make up nests with partly eaten eggs.  Z'ron was thinking we'd find some eggs and later have a hatching in which most of the eggs don't hatch because they're from greens. We could have several hatchings because we found eggs at different stages. And later on... Qat has an affinity for flits, perhaps later on she is curious about it... we could go back to the island again.
   Ayla gave Tennar two gems a while ago, and we've been wondering where she got them. Maybe that search could tie into Firelizard Island stories. She has stashes in several places, maybe including the island. She said OOC that she'd found them in an old mine tunnel somewhere; the miner was long dead. It could be a tunnel that's hard to spot because the entrance is partially blocked, like someone once tried to hide it. Maybe we could be in there because we're helping Tennar get his store room back in order... start talking about the gems... continue on back into the mine?
   So let's meet at the Rest and take it from there.


   Thuban tier got paid by raiding Novi's purse again. Next up is HS tier, due Wed or Thu.  
   Speculated about setting up a Paypal-like account for Novi (to whom the donation boxes send money). We couldn't use Paypal: they're only allowed personal accounts by law, one per person. But there are other processors.
   Vee is hoping to have good news later this week.

Pern Day
   (April 1, Anne's birthday) is three weeks away, on a Saturday this year. We'll talk about it next week.

   The archive scroll rack is back, and Moira put in it NC versions of the 3 founding stories written by Soo, from the website - so they are slightly easier to find now.  
   She also put up a few temporary walls - to wall off the archivist office, and to create a little sleeping room for apprentices (and Qat).

    Here is the link to the story line:
   Last week, a search party formed at the Rest and investigated the tunnels at the old mine.  Qat's camp was discovered and though she ran and tried to get away, she was caught. She was taken by Journeyman Moira to be given quarters at Harper Hall, in an apprentice room.  She awaits questioning, etc.
   Seacraft could request that Harper Hall bring her there for the time being. Captain Fovin would want her there to ask her questions and to have her around when he decides what to do about Delan. (That can be changed, of course.) He doesn't want to go as far inland as Harpers. He has responsibilities.
   She should be escorted by a Harper, who would act as her advocate; that's one of the Harpers' duties.
   At some point a Hold Guard should talk to her, as well. Just to make sure she's not a mainland smuggler, determine if she's an immigrant the Lady will need to be informed about.
   The Masterfisher might send someone to ask questions.
   Apprentice Fisher Shanna assumes she was at sea fishing when this happened. Is now really concerned that this person might recognise her, for back story reasons (she won't). Shanna and Qat are both from small holds in the general area of Tillek, but they don't know one another. No one knows just where Qat is from.
   Qat has many skills, some of which aren't covered by our present members.  In the long run she can be a variety of things.  She has some Fishercraft experience, mapping skills, weaving. That she does mapping could be disturbing - perhaps she was sent here to map the island for someone back on the mainland.
   Once the questioning's over and she begins being incorporated into Gianfar culture, it would make sense that her education on that would be the task of Harpers.  Then she would be apprenticed somewhere.
   Harpers is a good place for her to stay, after she's been taken to Seacraft for Fovin's questioning,  until we can get her settled in an area that would be best for her skills.  (And we can keep an eye on her better while she adjusts to being here.)  
   It might occur to people that she might be more willing to listen to another person from Tillek (Shanna) who has been treated well.
   Captain Fovin will want to have words with Delan, giving him a fair hearing before pronouncing the foregone judgment.
   It takes a lot of time for people to move from place to place, so we'll meet at Seacraft, discuss Qat's situation with her (having taken her there per Fovin's request), then the questioning by Fovin.
   Stay tuned for notecards...


   Vee's report: "The good news is, the full sim tiers are paid. And I think Thuban will be covered on the 8th. The bad news is, can't say the same about the HS's on the 15th or the fulls next 28th. The HS's are US$125/mo each - so US$250 - and the fulls are US$195/mo each - US$390. And we raided Novi's funds to pay the last FS tier. So that's the bad news...  I'm hoping for some good news this week, I'll let you all know if & when there is some.
   "The conversion rates between L$ and US$ are pretty stable most of the time. But LL charges fees for both converting to/from L$, and taking US$ out of SL to Paypal. Yet they'll take US$ without charging fees."

   Z'ron suggested that "we get together catch as catch can and  plan a class that people will want to remember to attend. There's interest, but in what? I need to know what people want. I'll try to talk to anyone that I know has shown any interest whatsoever. You can make sure I hear you by sending a notecard."
   Una and Ardrhys are interested in getting to know the instruments. Given Vee's illness, Una suggested something soothing. Z'ron agreed: " Good idea - mood music. What makes a tune sad, happy, calming, exciting, etc. lI'll research that some."
   Moira's interested in brainstorming for general Harper RP.

   Una's "been updating Qat's backstory and adding RP summaries as we go.
   "We are to the point now where we could have a search part, which would include the Weyr.  This can start today or we can come back to it later.   She doesn't have to be found today. It can just be the start of searching."
   We discussed whether Qat knows that she'd not be allowed to leave. Decided that "she has no idea where she is, that she found the very island she's heard about, and will find out later that she's here forever. All she knows is she got caught on a ship and needs to lay low to figure out what to do next. She would think Delan was just trying to keep her from being punished by Fovin.  She has no idea if she'd stayed on board she could have been sent home."
   In any case, Captain Fovin will have some things to say to Delan, and Innkeeper Tennar will be wanting to discuss thievery with Qat.
   Una's planning to "write little bits on what is happening from Qat's point of view" as Mishla suggested. "Little 'diary' type entries.  She isn't literally writing a diary but it will be that sort of short entry.  I will add them to the doc."
   Z'ron pointed out that "This qualifies as designing a roleplay for Harper Master reqs."
   We'll meet at the Rest at 2 pm and start organizing for  the search.


   The island's still here so Vee must have paid the bills.

   Z'ron wants ideas for what Harpers can do to improve roleplay. Send them to her in a notecard. "I might give prizes or something."

   Discussed last week's episode - we got a report of a stow-away somewhere on the island, and rumors of things going missing from the Rest storage caves and the old mines behind the Rest.  
   OOC (see the backstory on the Web) we know that Qat comes from "near Tillek." We can also assert that the place where she snuck onto Captain Fovin's ship wasn't near the little fishing village from which Shanna hails.
   Discussed how shipping could continue now that Thread is falling. There'd be no danger during the winter, except from winter storms. During Threadfall season we could suppose that there are sufficient safe anchorages.
   Qat's backstory, which Una is updating as the RP develops:
   Fisher Hall, and anti-Thread ships:
   Discussed the crewman who helped Qat get ashore and to the caves where she hid. Decided that as he'd been played by Colin's alt Del, he could have been named Delan. Talked about what Captain Fovin would do with him. Reasoned that Delan must've been from Gianfar, presumably in Seacraft, before Fovin hired him (which explains how he knew about the mine tunnels); so he could be just kicked off the ship and returned to Seacraft. That'll be material for a future RP thread; we'd need someone to play the Masterfisher.
   For today we'll start at the Rest and continue talking about the stow-away, possibly speculating on a connection between him or her and the thefts from the Rest stores and adjacent caverns.


   Vee paid our ad bills last night, no tiers went out nor were due before next meeting.

   But she did have 2 items arising from the griefer incident - and subsequently discovering 2 large (500 & 1400 prim) houses hovering over Shaula. And Colin returned a sporty car from the sky over Harpers.
   Vee made Dezy a Guardian, which gives us coverage during EU time.
   Vee wrote a security script for a friend, a while back... it's a panic-button script. Any time a suitably-authorised person hits a 'panic button', anyone over her land who's not on a whitelist gets sent home, their objects returned, and banned for 2 hours. Scripts are based on an Experience, and run wherever there's land in that Experience - her friend has several parcels. And the ban scripts, in particular, save their UUIDs in the Experience - so they can message each other, which means a ban triggered on one parcel automatically copies to all the others within a minute or two. (She's using email for that. So bans queue if a sim is offline at the time.) For Gianfar, she'd replace 'parcel' with 'region', but it'd work pretty much the same way.
   She'd love to be able to box an unauthorized build up and leave it somewhere so we can return it after they contact us to apologise... or permanently delete it if they don't... but LL don't give us that option. So we have no choice but to destroy expensive no-copy items, like a house rezzer, by returning them.
   Anyway, she'll roll out a Gianfar version early next week and let us all know where the 'panic buttons' are. In case of griefing, AR first (of course), wear a GPoP tag, find panic button, click it, fill in reason for ban - and done.

   We know, OOC, that Qat, the escaped stowaway, will eventually be found in the abandoned mine tunnels behind Runners' Rest. So Tennar, the innkeeper, will be grumbling about things not being found where they should be; and the rumors of a big fuss over an escaped stowaway might get someone to wonder about a connection. Meet at the Rest at 2:00 SLT.


   Thuban tier got paid on the 8th, ads are up to date. HS's on the 15th seem to be covered.

   The time has come for Qat (Una's alt who's been drifting around at see for some months) to finally show up, sneaking off a sea-trader ship with the help of the crewfolk she'd befriended.
   We pondered the staffing of the scene. Shanna offered her alt, Captain Yansi, to be Trader Captain Fovin; Colin's alt Del, or ardrhys, could be a sailor.  Would help to have dockhands. We could imagine a firelizard, if no one shows up to play one, to notify the harbormaster of the ship's approach. Lady Varian could be there to make sure that a certain shipment was delivered (and to cause enough disruption to give Qat a chance to sneak ashore and away). Del 'bought' Colin's wagon so he'll be able to take Qat to the mine tunnels without anyone noticing.

Multiple viewers
   While talking about bringing alts into the RP along with our regular characters, the question came up: Can one run two different viewers at the same time? John reported being able to run Firestorm and Singularity at once. Shanna said, "I know people who [use] SL and Inworldz together a lot with no problems." Vee cautioned that "If you use the multiple viewers setting, be sure none of your avatars is under RLV restrictions - because they'll bleed through to all your logged-in accounts. Discovered that while writing & testing RLV code..."


   Full sim tiers were paid last week, and Vee paid up all our ads yesterday. Next up is Thuban, due in 2 days, then the HS's, a week later.

Sim design changes
   Carrying on from Felrun's suggestions last week: Wyn has some terraforming plans, no schedule. Vee's plans depend either on us having more players, or on her having enough time to finish up nearly-complete projects like a redesign of Thread.

Pern Day
   April 1 is coming, and as we're not participating in Sci-Fi Con this year we'll have time to plan for our event. Ideas for events, OOC or IC, welcome, and, since it'll be a Saturday, we can make Pern Day last 2 days.

   We're not expecting enough players this afternoon, for reasons including that "game of fake rugby, mostly played by advertisers," to pick up the arc of Qat's arrival. So we'll push that to next week and meet at the Rest today, probably continuing the mystery of where Ayla is getting gem stones to drop on innkeeper Tennar's counter.
   Vee cancelled today's RP class at NCI, for lack of students, and expected to sleep through RP time.

Title: Colin's meeting notes (book 25}
Post by: Colin on April 23, 2017, 07:16:20 PM
                                        [continued in Book 26]


   FS tiers, due today, are covered.

   Started the meeting by discussing RP. Brainstormed ideas for Weyr RP, limited by having three active Weyr humans (M'thos, Rodney, and Del) and one active dragon (Mishaleth). Two Apprentice Harpers (Una and ardrhys) could have been assigned to do some research there. We'll meet in the Weyr Bowl at 2.  

   We have a booth: a 32x32 parcel. The script restrictions this year are particularly nasty. Pretty much all that's allowed is touch - no collisions, no timers, no public-chat listeners, no permanently-on listeners on non-public channels... But Experiences are allowed. So, Vee was wondering about a set of Pandora-style floating platforms or rocks, linked by - initially she thought rope bridges, but later, maybe a waterslide, like the one she made for last year's RFL... with the platforms linked by anywhere door teleports that, by changing destinations from time to time, could make the build something of a 3D maze... She has most of that in inventory. What she doesn't have is the platforms themselves [John offered some] - or things to put on the platforms. Like, games, say... this year's b'day theme is carnivalesque. There's a height limit of 75m above ground level, and we can terraform to 10m below ground, and the platforms can be small and not one above another, so we should be able to squeeze several in. We can go up to 2m outside that 32x32, provided we're over 2m up - that's supposed to allow for overhanging tree branches, but should work for platforms, too.
   This year's SLB promises to be the laggiest ever - the sim continent layout is not ideal, plus the 75m height rule, plus most of the script restrictions are, well, not actually going to help.


Vee's news
   She's back from 2nd trip to hospital, recovering, doing minimal typing. No NCI class today, and she may or may not be around for RP.

   "Bills are all paid, FS tiers for next week are covered, website bill is coming up and is covered. Need to check on our ads. End of report."

   They've reopened applications. Vee will apply, and pull our application if we can't build anything... Wyn suggests using the dolphin & dragon rides again, even if that means repeating ourselves a bit. There was agreement that being present is the main thing.

Korolev Station
   Vee and Dezy haven't been able to sync up - but Dezy's inventoried the remaining Outer Fleet assets that Vee will have to return to make space (which will also free up prims).

   Bootstrapping continues, the problem being that we were about to lose our last active Master and had to promote someone. Moira will be promoted to Master and will then be able to promote Una and ardrhys to Journeyman. That will produce a structure in which Students (anyone who's interested in the Craft) can be made Apprentices and work up from there.

   Moira was thinking we could do an informal class about using flamethrowers - a mixture of the weyrling training about checking/cleaning flamethrowers and Colin's notes about actually using them. She could lead it from what she remembers from when she was at the Weyr. All who commented favored the idea, so that'll be this afternoon's topic.


   Vee: "... are good, since I still have a job :) HS tiers will be paid Monday on schedule."  

   Vee: "SLB closed applications about half a day early, before I got round to filing ours. However, Doc heard about my situation, and offered to let us apply for an exhibit space anyway. I haven't taken him up on it; I don't know that we'll have any builders available - Wyn still isn't back in SL full-time. I hate to not be there, though... is there anyone who feels strongly that we ought to be on SL14B?" Discussion amounted to 'not enough likelihood of getting new members to justify the work.' "Ok, I'll tell Doc thanks for the offer, but we'll skip this year."

   Moira: "We had a Harper business meeting earlier this week - myself, Z'ron, ardrhys and Una. We discussed promotion requirements, made a few little tweaks to some wording (keeping the intent of the requirement, though) and expect that we should have some promotions occurring before too long."
   Thalia: "Expect promotions, which means walking the tables, and will need people to RP the Harper Quintet."
   Z'ron: "I want promotion requests from the apprentice harpers. Copies to Moira."  

Korolev Station
   Dezy's space station sim Korolev will close next month - it ran out of money. And Vee has this void [above Shaula] that Outer Fleet used to rent from me for space RP.
   Dezy: The owner of Korolev Station is running out of money. She's got hit with some bills and pretty much can't afford a full sim and a homestead anymore. So I contacted Vee to see if we possibly could more some inhabitants along with some prims this way."
   Vee: "As I understand it, Korolev's original builder is gone, so the Korolev build will go with the sim - so you'll need to build something new here?"
   Dezy: "Most of the prims are from a missing builder, but a lot of them are from the owner as well."
   Dezy sent the "Official Statement from Korolev" in a GPoP Notice.
   Pause for everyone to read the NC...
   Vee: "So, no objections to Korolev becoming our tenants? We're thinking of using space on Tyl & Thuban, as well as Shaula. Subject to negotiations, of course, but I don't see any technical problems." ... "I have vertical space over Shaula that, after I bought Shaula from Soo, I used to rent to an occasional RP group called Outer Fleet. I think some of their space stations & asteroids are still there, although the main build was taken out a year or two ago." But Dezy said "Actually there's still a BIG space station over Shaula."
   I asked how active Korolev is, at what times; Dezy said there are just a couple of regulars. So there'd be no strain on our sims.
   The Korolev owner logged on, Dezy contacted her, she asked about rent. Vee said "We'll negotiate, but I don't think rent will be a problem. I'm not getting anything for the space right now, after all."

RP general direction
   Moira: "After our harper business, we kind of met as a RP discussion committee earlier this week, and we did some brainstorming on some ideas for RP scenarios. We came up with a list which we would like to send out to get feedback on from the larger group, and we would also like to encourage others to be part of the discussion in  brainstorming ideas. We were discussing choosing a story and a location, and then figuring out characters/roles that would be needed, and in some situations taking the roles on as NPC's (rather than our normal characters).   Part of the intent is to utilize other areas of the islands, expand story lines into other crafts, as well as expanding our RP abilities.  In addition, hopefully we may interest other members to come back and share in the experience.
   Una: "Also hoping that by sending out some ideas, we can find out which interest the most folks, and start with those. Perhaps generate more participation and interest.
   Moira: "There are background NC's for other crafts that we could distribute prior to the RP in an area, so that we would have a common background to start from. As an example, we could do a RP at Tannercraft where NPC weyrlings are learning about how to choose and treat hides for making their riding straps, or perhaps a RP where we all try out being a dragon or a rider and have a NPC 'learning to fly' class RP.  (I have all the weyrling tasks, still, from when I completed them awhile ago). Or something at Weavercraft. Obviously these types of things would take a little prep work ahead of time.
   "We also (Una and I) re-visited firelizard island.  There is a lot of beautiful space there that needs some stories.  Part of our thoughts are about telling our existing stories, as well as creating newer history."
   Z'ron: "We'd like to invite other interested people to meet with us to plan rp. and make suggestions to this meeting. If you're interested in rp planning, talk to Moira, Ardrhys or Una about a good time to meet. Think about teaching a class and putting it in a notecard so others can teach it if you're not available. The harpers have several classes saved, and not just harper classes."
    Moira: So any ideas - like the ones Ryu and Ayla are having fun discussing [below] - are what we're looking for.   We can either set up times to meet with those interested, or if you just come up with an idea you want to share, you can send a NC to me, Una and/or Ardrhys wtih the idea, and we'll add it to our list.
   Z'ron: I still think an unofficial rp committee should meet. Brainstorming works better in groups.
   Una: "They can be one day short rp ideas, or something that can play out over several days.  We want to hear all ideas!"
   Moira: Yes, it does, but I don't want to limit it to that, if someone comes up with an idea out of the blue.  The committee can take ideas received and brainstorm further on them, as well.
    Z'ron: I agree, sending ideas to you three is a good idea.

   This thread spun off from, and was interlaced with,  the RP discussion:
   Ryu: "I only know ceramics and how to use low density silica to make a firebox on a volcano for firing it. Have to have live lava flow and you're almost as much in danger of being burned as any rider is fighting thread. Lava itself is also subject to use as glass when it's the right type. Obsidian and flint are both igneous."
   Mrs. Ayla: "Hmmm...pesky flits could have fun with ceramics."
   Una: "We need some pesky flit stories at the island."
   Ryu: "I can write some "scrolls" of how to build, fire and construct ceramics and glasses. Like making the slip for a ceramic by putting the raw minerals with water into a desert plant pod that is nearly indestructible and useful as a mixing bowl, and getting the flits to play with it for a few days. And any firelizards, children and other critters running around."
   Mrs. Ayla: "Watch us break it open anyway and make a big mess, lol."
   Ryu: "Heh. Considering the pods are also used (empty) as play toys for dragons and human sports, that'll take some doing, but, yeah... SPLAT!"
    Mrs. Ayla: "Plus who knows where they might end up, you might have to look around for them."
   Ryu: "That's why it's actually a chore.  You either pound slip all day in a churn, or you follow the pod around every second to make sure it doesn't either get broken, opened or disappeared by a fire lizard or down a hole. Also, if you're lucky, you find a volcanic hot spring that has been mixing up ceramic slip au natural for a few decades and then have to learn to figure out whether the slip is safe for utensils, tools or neither. Sometimes the ceramic will have Thallium or Lead and not be safe.
   Ryu [referencing the invitation to set up a class and put the notes on a Notecard]: "Do you want the notecard to be "old timer who's been there" or "brash young 'expert' full of ideas from the AI and about as experienced as a 15 Year old is with girls"?  
   Moira: "Which ever suits your fancy, but the old timer might fit in with some thoughts we were having about fire lizard island...  I was just trying to picture what a volcanic hot spring might look like."
   Ryu: "For volcanic firing, can be caves with several small lava tubes running through them. Safe enough if you don't poke around wildly."
   Moira: "Hmmm... we'll have to give that some thought and see what can be figured out."
   Ryu: "Holes in the floor where you would essentially dip a really high temperature retort (also ceramic, but fired long before) down into the hole just above the lava flow. And gaging the temperature can (and often does) result in lack of eyebrows and eyelashes."
   Z'ron: Pottery class is a lot more interesting than I thought it would be.
   Ryu: "We're making ceramics. Including tools and knives. May lack metals, but ceramics we have in abundance! Hooks of hull metal for the kilns (what the volcanic vents would be called). I'll make a list."
   Moira: "Ryu, what size of area do you think would be needed?  and would in a cave be the best setting? (or would that not be necessary?)"
   Una: Not sure of the feasibility but it sounds like it goes with the mines."
   Ryu: "The holes would be in the floor and about a meter larger than the largest piece to fire. The hooks would hold the crucibles in place so if you made the holes 1.5 to 2 meters across, you could have one kiln and do it in a room of 3 meters across. That would be RL terms, so size it for SL."
   ardrhys: "Weren't we talking about a volcano somewhere? Maybe where the lava flow has burst through a bit."
   Ryu: "Grungy would work. And rough. The firing process is the worst part, from the danger aspect. The production of the slip and clay mixes the hardest work. The molding and sculpting the trickiest, and messiest."
   Colin: "ardrhys, we've had a volcano in Thuban since before my time, probably in Soo's original build of Gianfar. We did an eruption RP last RL-winter. But it wasn't designed for RP; the eruption was off-stage as I recall. Smithcraft and the new mines have various rooms, as does Firelizard Island."
   ardrhys: "Great, maybe we could find a suitable cavern tonight."
   Moira: "There's also the caverns on Thuban (I think) where we had the temporary weyr after the last earthquake.    Those currently aren't being used for anything, so could also be a possibility."
   Ryu: "The kilns just need a nearby lavatube. Not necessarily the best real estate, but not hard to manage near a volcano. Ask someone from Hawaii. Lava tubes can be many kilometers from a volcano."

RP today
   Meet at the entrance to the new mines (northeast Tyl, high up the mountainside). We'll be discussing a list of G&S equipment, materials, and products.


Vee back with us. We spent most of the meeting discussing medical matters.

   Z'ron has decided to drop out of all RP in favor of Virtual Ability and Whole Brain Health. There'll be a Harper meeting in the Hall at 10am SLT tomorrow.

   Maybe, not clear how many can show up.


There was no meeting today; Vee was in the hospital.

Some folks might gather for RP at 2:00.


   ...are good. All bills paid up to date, all tiers paid, next tier - the FS's - due Friday, which is also Vee's payday.

Vee's status
   She'll be even less available for the next couple of weeks - she's been asked to start & end work an hour later most days.

   Z'ron is going to become even less available so we need to promote some harpers. All harpers take notice and send her your recommendations in notecards.

   Applications opened last week. The Pandorans have already applied.
   Looks like the prim allowance is a little higher than last year, but the parcels are the same size.
   The theme is 'Carnivalesque'. We could do a Pern-themed carnival ride, or a Gather. Or both. Perhaps a gather with dragons giving rides and wearing funny hats? Perhaps bit Mardi Gras and a bit burlesque?
   We can go for a land parcel, and have it terraformed to 10m down, below water level, or go for a sea parcel, no land. They're still insisting on a 75m height limit. SL14B will be just as laggy as the last 3-4 SLB's. No skyboxes... Vee can ask for a sphere for 'between' flights, but we probably won't get it. Splitting builds between surface and sky reduces client lag: fewer objects, textures and avatars to rez in your draw distance. But the SLB leaders are wedded to the idea that everything needs to be on the ground. Vee  thinks part of it is being worried about empty ground-level parcels. A rule about not having your ground-level parcel empty apart from a teleport would deal with that.
   We can use Experiences. Although it's clear the rule for Experiences was written by someone who doesn't know what they are.
   Last year we were nearly passed over; we may not be lucky enough to get in, this year.
   Vee will put together an application for a water sim based on a combined Gather and one or two rides. Perhaps, for a minimum, one person with a dragon avatar offering rides. We've got a drudge manning  an info booth - essentially that effect.

   We had a good time last Sunday exploring the levels of caverns on Firelizard Island. Today just meet up at the Rest and see where we go? Can always visit the island again if anyone missed it.

Title: Colin's meeting notes (book 26)
Post by: Colin on June 04, 2017, 08:03:18 PM
(continued in book 27)


   All covered.

   Discussed yesterday's Gather session (dancing, Threadfall, dancing, hatchie raid, more dancing till about 6pm). Seemed like folks had a good time... we had more dancers than danceballs... and the hatchies are looking forward to raiding again.
   Discussed how to get things going this afternoon. We'll have DJs for all six hours, and be feeding the music stream to all sims, so folks can be moving around and still listening - and dancing in Kuma or 3500 as they please. Hoping to have foot and dragon races. Have at least one game, "Race to the Hatching Sands," on one of the Shaula-3500-meter islands and a "Cards Against Humanity" board beside the dance floor up there.
   Discussed what we could be doing this afternoon:
dancing all the time (Kuma or 3500, music everywhere);
dragon time trials any time (3500);
Thread at 12:35, 2:35, 4:35 Shaula, 12:50, 2:50 & 4:50 Kuma, and whenever Vee feels like it;
runner racing at 1pm (Tyl);
games any time (3500);
fireworks at 3:30 (Shaula or Kuma south beaches),
dolphin play at 4(?) (Etamin or north Kuma);
bardic circle (stories & poems around a campfire) at 5 (where?).
   Vee will build [and did build] an all-Gianfar announcer.


   Vee: "Finances good, going to replace the in-sim teleports with an experience-based system I wrote last week - just walk into a door/tunnel, reappear at your destination and keep walking - and may (should) roll out flight strap rezzers this week. May test RLV code for auto-sitting dragons in one of them.

   Time: noon to 6pm SLT, Saturday and Sunday.
   Discussed poster design.
   Have two DJs lined up: the Fairports on Saturday, Ayla at 2pm on Sunday. [Flash: and Ktahdn Vesuvino at noon both days.] [And Gelgesith's fireworks at 3:30pm both days.]
   Discussed Pernese music.
   Maybe a hatchie raid from Isle of Wyrms.
   Discussed 'horse' racing, whether to use wearable beasts or avatars, how to detect people using 'assists' to run faster than 'possible,' whether to allow Bento horses which some people can't see.
   I'll do a 'flamethrower 101' class about 15 minutes before Threadfalls, so that visitors can contribute to chaos.

   At 2pm as usual, in Tyl this time, near Beastcraft Hall and the orchard.


   ...remain healthy. Homestead sim tiers due today and are covered. Need to check on our ads. Full sims on the 28th, covered. So we're here for another month :)

   Vee's "going to be working from home for a week, so I should have more time to get some stuff done. May be around the sims during the day."

   Vee: "Quick note, it's the last day of RFL today, do go enjoy the builds, some really good ones this year :) and donate, of course."

   Ludo: " I'm still doing seminars at 9 am [SLT] on Saturday. Last time only Una came and we spent the time working on her song and discussing mood and music. Anyone is welcome."

   We reviewed Gather schedules from 2011 and 2014 for ideas. Ayla announced that she's now a DJ, and was hired immediately. Various folks have carnival-type games; there are booths on the 3500 floor for face painting and pie eating contests; Simile has the "Race to the Hatching Sands" multi-player board game; we could have dragon races in the ring course; we have the foot / runnerbeast race course in Tyl; there are "Dragon Games" in the Weyr Bowl; 7Seas fishing in Fisher/Dolphin Hall; and more. We'll need lots of PEOPLE to run and play the games.

   We'll spend the time planning for the Gather, probably including a survey of what's presently on the '3500' platform.


   Vee starts her new job tomorrow. Thuban tier is covered. HS's are due next weekend, covered. Bills are paid up to date.

   Vee reported that "Decided my priority was finishing the Russian-furry-cleanup script on Tyl, but also did some work on a straps-rezzer and some changes to the Greeters. Ran some tests, and I think the website-login-from-SL thing is doable, but I need to brush up on my PHP, and I don't think it's a priority. Also did some overdue scripting for NCI. How much time I get this week depends on my job, but I *might* be able to roll out the security scripts to the other sims and put the straps-rezzer where it can be tested on Wednesday - I have an appointment in the afternoon, so I'm only working a half-day. New [riding] straps won't be any worse - but the improved straps are a separate issue (since they go with a replacement AO for the current dragons). May try out some new ideas in the rezzed straps, like straps that rez in front of the dragon. I originally shelved the straps project while we were looking for new dragons, or a dragon builder, but since that search appears to be stymied, I may as well finish what we have. I've been looking at Bento wings & tails, and wishing we had a maker who could rig for them. But Bento wings would remove the need for 'ground' & 'flight' wingsets, and flipping arms & wings for flying, as well as looking more natural. And Bento tails would let us do things like curl the tails when the dragon is sleeping." (The Singularity viewer seems unable to handle Bento.)

Sim music
   [This discussion was going on in Local Chat while the rest of the meeting was in Group Chat.]
   Vee and Wyn choose the music for the sims, but it is changeable by the Guardians. A script on each sim resets the music whenever the sims are empty for more than 5 minutes. So to change the music permanently requires Vee, or a Guardian who can edit group-owned objects... but any Guardian with land powers can change the stream temporarily. They're set back to a mostly classical station that fits the theme.

Harper seminars
   Ludo reported that "We had the first one yesterday. For a while they will be about how music affects mood, how to pick a tune to convey the mood you want. They're at 9 am Saturdays and can't last over 2 hours, I'm aiming at 1.5.
   Yesterday's seminar discussed what dynamics of music convey what moods. What the difference in mood is between two tunes for Ave Maria. Et Cetera.
 We use YouTube for examples."
   Una commented, "From the student's point of view-  the ways in which music affects us, and why.  Makes you think about why you say you like or don't like a particular type of music or a song."
   Ludo "was surprised to find that minor keys being sad is a culturally trained thing." Moira said that "klezmer music often sounds like its in a minor key, but can also feel happy." Ludo replied that "If it also feels happy it probably has higher pitch, faster tempo, and a greater pitch range. See what we're learning."
   Attend the Saturday seminars to learn more.

   Do we want to hold another Gather, and if so, when? And, do we want to do it as part of a recruitment drive? We decided to hold Gathers on fifth Sundays of months (there are four such each year), and July is such a month. Gathers usually last for one day but could be multi-day if we want. And we'd love to have fireworks.
   So, how about the weekend of the 30th? That gives us two weeks to plan. To do a two-day Gather, though, we'd have to have people here both days.  We could base planning on the Gather we did in 2014. Some folks have things left over from that one.
   We could have "horse" races using whatever riding beasts people had; foot races; seahorse or dolphin races. We could have dragon races on the rings course above Etamin.
   We could have pie-eating or drinking contests - the winner could be chosen randomly as everyone's eating animation would run at the same speed.
   We've lost the board games that we had several years ago, but might be able to find some medieval group games.
   We have the 7 Seas fishing setup, could run a fishing contest.
   There may be a Greedy board in the "3500" skybox.
   Moira put out a box giving the notecard schedule for the 2014 Gather, to provide some ideas. That event started on a Friday evening but we decided  that a Sat-Sun event would be long enough for this year.

   At 2pm SLT in the Rest, Colin will teach how to use a flamethrower without endangering oneself or others. That should be good preparation for the 3pm Threadfall.


   The sims remain safe; Vee will be starting a new job a week from tomorrow. All our ad bills have been paid.
   Wyn hasn't been in SL lately but is OK; has back issues; staying in touch with Gianfar and NCI; getting treatment.

   Vee has pulled out a couple of mothballed scripting projects, so it's just possible that she'll have some of those updates for Thread this week, after the 4th.
   She might try reactivating an old project, a way to log into the website from SL. Requiring new players to register with the website from SL would be difficult but would get around our spammer problem.
   She has a complete revamp of Thread, v2.0, all mapped out, but finishing testing it, bugfixing, and then rolling it out will take a while... so this week she's going to concentrate on fixes, the reporters, and maybe dragonflight. New flamers, plant scripts, etc, are tied to the new Thread scripts, which are tied to new emitters, which are tied to new control scripts... that will mean new dragonbreath, but after the next update she'll provide updaters for the dragons, so no more fiddling with the flamers.

   Vee summarized the differences between Gianfar dragons and the "real" ones in the books. Ours are much smaller, else they'd not fit in a sim. Vee's predecessor allowed such things as a female brown for, well, reasons, which Vee can't disagree with... she's reluctant to overrule anything the Boss did, so that's still allowed - but requires her explicit permission, now.
   We also allow/require dragons to change colour... Rider hierarchy is defined by dragon colour in the books. Wingleaders ride bronzes, the Weyrleader is selected by which bronze flies the senior queen, etc. We can't do that. Barring exceptions approved by Vee (for golds & bronzes) or Weyr admins (for browns), all new-hatched dragons are green or blue. If a pair is promoted, the dragon 'sheds a skin' and becomes bronze or gold, as needed.
   Weyrleader, Weyrwoman and Wingleader are RP roles, appointed by Vee... when we have enough pairs active for such things... so the outcome of a senior queen's mating flight RP is predetermined. Which Vee hates, but it's necessary.
   Also, if a rider (or dragon) leaves the RP, the dragon (or rider) can reImpress. We're not having player suicide characters because another player walked out. Firelizards can also re-impress, as Ayla did.
   Last week, we made a small rule change... non-Weyr players can NPC dragons & riders to fill in gaps. But they still have to complete training to fly as part of adult, fighting-wing pairs. NPC'ing a non-flying dragon is one thing, lets a rider keep RPing while their dragon is away, but we (Soo) designed this place to echo the cooperative meme of the books, and that includes riders & dragons in partnership... also, solo flaming dragons have a huge advantage over dragonpairs in Fall.
   Also, "Dragons. Can. Talk." Dragon players are free to play the pure book dragon, only talking with other dragons or their rider... but they're also free to talk to any & all players, if they choose. But Vee's unlikely to approve any human characters that can 'hear' all dragons, like Lessa can. Without a good storyline reason that carries on, that's just godmoding.
   There's backstory on the website, slotting us fairly neatly into Anne's world (except for the dragon size thing - like the Weyr really being hours away by land, or the Hold being home to a thousand people, you just have to fill in the blanks...)

   Flying class in the Weyr this afternoon, for anyone who'd like to try being an NPC Rider or dragon. Tell M'thos if you plan to attend, to help him figure out how to plan it.


   Vee reported that "Full sim tiers due on the 29th are covered. But don't let that stop anyone donating..." She's off work pending severance pay, and awaiting a final interview for what may be her next job.

Korolev status
   Dezi reported that "Korolev Station has a new owner. Most of what was at Korsta Banks will be moved next door, Phoenix Station included, so I won't be placing that above Shaula. On the other hand, I'm building something to fill the void above Shaula a bit: a small station, two floors, with places to dock ships at. Still in development. You can see it over at the airfield at Tyl [3000 meters up]."

   Discussed RP ideas, some from a Harper meeting last month and some from last week's OOC meeting. New member Aph is interested in weaving, and Jade/txep was talking of restarting Weavercraft. Both of them have RL commitments for a while, but will be back.
   Vee's "RP Basics" class will be held at noon as usual, but she'll be spending the rest of the afternoon being a Moderator during the last day of SL14B.
   For today's 2pm RP session, we'll meet in M'thos's Weyr for a basically OOC discussion of RP ideas. John or M'thos will send invitations.


   Good for now but uncertain beyond a couple of months.

   RL kept Vee out of SL most of last week so as of last night our parcel is a bare square of grass. We'll probably have to abandon it.

Korolev Station
   Dezy's space station is up. Technically, it's Phoenix, not Korolev - someone stepped up to buy the main Korolev sim, but they want the space station as well, so the secondary station moved here. Dezy or Svetlana would be the sources for details.

   We discussed RP ideas. We might be called upon by the Harpers to discuss our personal histories (backstories) and Gianfar's history. That would be a good way to introduce us to our newest member(s) and probably fun for us old-timers who've been here for months and months.
   Let's meet in the Hold dining room (cross the bridge from the Rift Dome / Welcome Center, enter the Hold, curtained doorway on the right) at the usual 2pm SLT.


   Thuban tier was paid on schedule, HS tiers will be paid on the 15th.

Meeting room chairs
   Ludo and Taliesin have rescripted the chairs in the Council Chamber. We'll no longer have to deal with intermittently-visible poseballs that have everyone sitting in the same position.

   Pandora's exhibit is nearly finished, Vee's working on ours.

Korolev Station
   Vee has cleared the air above Shaula, ready for the Station to move in. Dezy has built an airfield (Korolev's sandbox) high above Tyl.

Harper promotions
   Last Sunday the planned Harper 'Walking the Tables' ceremony was held. Moira was promoted to Master, Una and ardrhys to Journeyman. Before that, the Harpers presented songs and music.

   We'll meet in the Weyr dining hall; Del will take us on a tour of the Weyr. Many of those who start the tour will get back; some will take wrong turns and be discovered some day.


   Vee paid our ad bills last night, and the upcoming Thuban & HS bills on the 8th & 15th are covered. Beyond that... TBD.

Korolev Station
   Vee spent some time cleaning up Russian-furry prims (and one stray space scene that tried to hide at the top of Tyl). So today she's planning to clean up the old stations above Shaula, ready for Korolev. And make a space for at least one of Dezy's moons on Tyl. And she'll also mark out a space, probably over Shaula, for working on SL14B.
   Dezy and Pandora Tereshkova visited the meeting. Gianfar might get applications from some Korolev folks, and vice versa. Pandora, who is now our newest member, is a good contact for Korolev.

   Last week Vee came up with an idea... rather more Pandora than Gianfar. Floating islands, linked by a slide going down, and randomized anywhere doors between the platforms. And put games, displays, rides, etc, on the islands. She's thinking of re-using the bubble ride script from last year's RFL - it doesn't rez or derez anything and the scripting is mostly non-physical. All she'd have to do is define a few courses, add some unscripted downtubes, and, of course, find all the places people can fall out. Or make the whole thing nonphysical.
   Vee "got a timeslot in the Auditorium for my justly infamous NCI RP class. Tuesday 20th at 7, iirc."

    She offered to replace the chairs in the Council Chamber with scripted ones not using poseballs and offering both male and female sitting poses. Wyn, who owns the present chairs, agreed.
   Vee has several projects going; one is a new version of Thread, from which the debug "Found greenery" messages will finally be deleted. Another part of that project is to allow some other people to stop Threadfalls, such as during meetings. And more... sounded like much more.

Smithcraft equipment
   Una reported that "John sent me all of the G&S items that were donated to us.  Because of updates G&S has made to some of their items (mines included) they've become use-it-or-lose it items.  I set out the mines and Ardrhys and I (mostly Ardrhys) have been working away to collect all the ore from them. That sets us up with supplies for smithing-related rp for some time. We were also given a G&S kitchen so we've set up a small kitchen area above the forge area. Anyone who wants to work the smith equipment can cook foods for energy.  I sent Wyn a note about all that too in case either of you are wondering why there are so many Una prims over there. "  

   The Harpers had a good session yesterday, interviewing candidates for promotion and arranging furniture in the Hall dining room. Two Apprentices have been considered for promotion to Journeyman, and one Journeyman to Master.
   Today's session will start at 2pm SLT, in the Harper Hall dining room. There will be plenty of food set out, if the firelizards don't get to it first. All are welcome. This will be a good event for newer members to attend, as a good deal of history will be told.
   The Harpers will entertain until 3pm when Masterharper Isarma is expected to arrive. Then the Walking the Tables ceremony will be held.

Title: Colin's meeting notes (book 27)
Post by: Colin on August 13, 2017, 07:12:02 PM

   Finances are good, Thuban tier paid on schedule, HS tiers due on the 15th and covered. Ads *should* be good for a week.

   Ortath showed up with a new dragon body, Bento, from Dawns Kingdom. VERY impressive. It'll need customization for Gianfar (size and color, for example) but maybe the creator will help with that.
   Soo Novi returned to activity after 8 years! Intense welcoming ensued.
   Vee has a new demon body and a most impressive rezzing animation.
   M'thos is now Methos until he gets a new dragon. Meredyth (meredythrmckay) just joined; looks like he'll fill that need.
   Nekometh arrived, proving that the Council Chamber is large enough to hold two dragons... and that our graphics cards could rez them, if slowly. 

   Nekome has taught Character Building (and there's a box of info on the Council Room table). She's hoping to do a class on NPC creation in November, and one on RP in December. She also put out a box with all
   Had a long discussion on how to handle the fact that we have hardly any active Riders and dragons. Do we come up with IC reasons for that, or come up with RP that would attract people to those roles, or both? Do we concentrate on training Riders or dragons? Why did we lose all the people from the last Hatching? Would re-landscaping help catch visitors' interest, if we had a good storyline to keep them interested? How about letting players play Riders sometimes and dragons sometimes, for variety? To be continued this afternoon/evening in the Weyr, as the meeting ran until 1:30pm SLT.


   Vee was absent, so no info.  

   Realized that we should be discussing it. Went to '3500' to look around.

   Discussed where to take the "thief" story line, as Dutch will be gone for two weeks. We'd probably have had the Lady Holder be the judge for the trial (if we decided to hold one) but had to assume she wouldn't be present for this RP session.
   Info about this RP is at


    ...still good. Full sim tier due Thursday and covered. Vee checked & paid our ads last night. "But don't let that stop you paying your rent, please."

RP class
    Yesterday, Liriel and Dutch and Colin discussed how to kickstart a stalled RP - such as by the prisoner's break for freedom last Sunday. They also talked about how the OOVs during the week help the RP.
   Moira's OOV posts are under "Hall" in a Harper Hall Log thread because she felt they were more of a Hall perspective. Del's "diary entries" and Dutch's OOV posts are in Forum - Prattle in the Peaks - Weyr, Hold & Hall; RP transcriptions are there too.
   Next week Nekome will teach character development. The week after that Liriel will repeat the class she was going to give yesterday: talking about questions in RP and trying a new exercise from the book that teaches the "Yes, and..." technique.

   We'll go for a two-day event again. We may well use the '3500' area above Shaula for everything except the foot/runner races. We'll see about scheduling events besides DJs. We'll presumably have a hatchie invasion.

   We need to resolve the thief's case in the next two sessions, as Dutch will be gone for two weeks after that.  We'll need at least a defender (traditionally Harpers serve that function), judge (traditionally Lord Holder, Craftmaster, or Weyrleader depending on the offense), and of course the prisoner. They should get together behind the scenes to plan the play.
   In this case the offense is the theft of Tannercraft products - by someone with no affiliation to Weyr, Hold, or Hall - that were being sold to the Weyr - which makes jurisdiction hard to assign.  So the Lord Holder would probably end up as judge. If Vee weren't feeling up to that RP at the time, it'd be medieval practice to simply hold the trial (and prisoner) over until a judge was available.
   The prisoner's disease could be from wherever he came from (in which case possibly a threat to Gianfar folk). It could instead be from a local 'bug' to which he had no immunity, or just a reaction to our food (in which case, no threat to 'us'). It would be nice to have Healer participation in the RP that discusses the disease/disorder.
   We'll meet in the Weyr dining hall at 2pm as usual.    


   ...remain good. HS tiers were paid on time, Vee renewed our ads yesterday.

New and returning members
   Bookworm Hienrichs has joined us; Taissa (shapeshifter) has rejoined; Trixie (littlecrystalwitch) is joining.

Fall Gather
   Will be on the 5th Sunday of October. No time to discuss it today.

Last week's RP
   Was discussed before the meeting. Some logs were posted, see below.

RP planning
   Could we suppose that the disease that The Man brought has spread rapidly and fatally through at least the Weyr? That would give us an IC way of accounting for our present lack of Riders and dragons. Restarting the whole Weyr is a major reinvention, but we need something major. People come here expecting to see dragons flying, but few want to play them - and those who do, don't stay around. Can we come up with RP story lines that involve dragons but not in the Weyr?
   We should get RP narratives onto the Web site, and in a place where people can find them. Moira added a bunch of current RP this week - under forum -> prattle in the peaks -> weyr, hold and hall [] (scroll down below the child boards there). Dutch added some things. Moira put a few things on the Harper Hall board, as well, under 'harper hall logs'. We need to put links in the "Recent Stories" section of the main page, but who can update it?  

RP today
   Meet in the Weyr bowl at 2pm SLT, and probably continue with the theft/sickness story.


   Still good. Thuban tier got paid on schedule, and Novi's account is looking healthy. And Vee's air conditioning was finally fixed... the day after the heatwave broke there.  

RP classes
   Moira: "Liriel has been continuing on with the outline from an improv book, which has been very interesting.  We talked some yesterday about what RP we've liked, and what we didn't, and what makes the difference."
   Una: "Very good tips for thinking about how RP conversation should go (how to encourage it and sustain it)."
   Liriel: "I suggest that someone volunteer to lead a seminar and you just talk about roleplay. We all know something about roleplay and can teach each other. I will come on line as soon as I wake up, before breakfast even, like I did yesterday."
   Una: "We can do, yes.  Particularly as we have talked about using our OOV ideas as a catalyst for the coming RP if there are no other suggestions."
   Dutch: "Some conversation did take place on the distribution and dissemination of OOV sessions. The seminar impresses me as very collaborative and cooperative."
   Vee: "Do we advertise these 'seminars' outside Gianfar? And, should we?"
   Liriel: "We talk a lot about Gianfar specific things. However, the book is not Gianfar, it's not even roleplay. It's improv. Problem is, I want to get through the book and stop teaching classes. Guest teachers are greatly appreciated."
   Dutch: "After the book is done, and Liriel puts her feet up by the fire for a well deserved rest, the seminars could continue as general RP conversations, or even storyline sessions to map out future RP ideas."
   Liriel: "Yes, please! That's exactly what I want to see happen."
   Una: "and we keep making it clear, this isn't Harper focused.  Really all of us working to inspire RP in general."
   Dutch: "And then the ideas could be put into a collection, a LIBRARY, if you will, for future reference."
   John: "I just scanned a RP document ("36 Plots") I found with broad plot ideas. Let me see if I can find it." Vee suggested posting its address on the Web site. It's a PDF; he'll Email it to her and she'll post it on the site.
RP transcripts
   Posting to the Web site, with character or display names rather than usernames, should be fine. Vee may be able to find a perl script she once wrote to clean up transcripts. It stripped timestamps, removed online/offline taglines, and dropped usernames. Moira will start putting narratives on the web this week, starting with some of the relatively older ones,  moving forward towards current.  She'll put a NC with a brief comment of the storyline and the web link, in the Archives office.

RP plans
   We'll meet in the Weyr dining hall at 2pm SLT. We'll be continuing Dutch's story about 'the stranger' stealing hides (and maybe cheese). We may have a Healer interviewing him to judge whether he's competent to be tried. If so, because we're short-handed the trial might occur OOV.


   ...remain good. Full sim tier paid on the 28th, Thuban tier due on the 8th and covered, HS tiers on the 15th and covered. Paid up our remaining ads last night, good for 2 weeks. End of report.

   The next 5th=Sunday is October 29, just before Halloween.  Maybe, instead of going OOC and having a Halloween-themed event, we could try for a reunion of formerly-active folks.

RP classes
   Class was good - had more discussion around a practice scenario... there were good tips for generating and sustaining rp conversation -  which we hope to practice .... hint/warning.

No RP class today
   Vee's air conditioner is broken again(!) so she'll be out finding places where the indoor temp's below 88F.

RP today
   The cheese thief from the last Gather hasn't been caught, and some of the hides that were delivered to the Weyr last week are reported missing. (Dutch wrote an OOV story about that.) We'll meet in the Weyr Bowl and discover and/or discuss the recent thefts.


   Remain good. Full sim tiers are covered tomorrow, and all sim tiers through September.

   Master Moira has been adding stories to the Archives scroll rack in Harper Hall.  Our 3 founding stories written by Soo, Vee, and Buck are there [copied from the site to notecards], as well as a couple of other stories relating to key events (opening gather, weyr record of pertinent events and memorial after great storm). She will also be adding a history summary (the first 2 parts up thru end of 2009) and will be working on more recent summaries soon. The history summaries aren't in the scroll rack yet, but will be by the end of the week.

Midweek RP
   We discussed posting RP narratives to the Web site. Summaries like these meeting reports? Many people posting or one person collecting and posting a week's activities? Nekome volunteered to be the collector for one month, to see how it works.
   The more RP we show, the more interesting the site is - provided that the reader can find the RP narratives. It would be OK to post OOV (Out of Vision) RP; all posts should be clearly labelled as "scheduled RP," "ad-hoc RP," or "offline RP," and the date/time (real or in-world). Vee would "like to see RP summaries - and/or cleaned-up chatlogs - sent to the group. (And maybe added to the website - either in forums or as a blog?)
   Question: " I have a summary of some actions my character took during the week, but they didn't involve other real characters, so it wasn't RP in the strict sense.  It was just what I imagined as the next step for some of the things that happened at the Sunday RP.  Could we post things like that?" Answer: "If you were here taking those actions, then, to me, it qualifies as 'real' RP. Stories written while not here or not moving your avi around are, to me, 'OOV'."
   Vee is "not opposed to OOV stories (or Gianfar-based short stories in general), but they should be flagged as such, not involve anyone else's characters without their approval, and won't count towards any Craft RP requirements we might add in the future."

   John described his proposed new site - - and we discussed it.

   Colin posted his summary of Nekome's RP class, as a group Notice attachment.
   We'll be at the Weyr this afternoon. Perhaps an apprentice Tanner is delivering goods, possibly it's a supply run with a collection of things and other stuff.  


The long unseen appeared
   Nekome (who recruited Vee) and Wyn attended 'in person.'

   FS tiers are covered for the 28th. Also Thuban on the 8th and the other HS's on the 15th.
   Side note: website went down on Friday after our hosting company upgraded our software. They fixed the issue quickly when Vee filed a ticket, but some of the database stored procedures were lost, and that's broken a few scripts. She'll be fixing the ones she didn't have backed up over the next few days.Threadfall, the Dragoncourse timers, and the Greeter system weren't impacted.

Flight assist
   Flying the 3500 course, ardrhys noticed Vee was flying a lot faster when in demon form than in dragon. The demon is deliberately low-script, and doesn't carry any assists... but she does have a Mystitool HUD... and even though she had Mysti's flight assist toggled off, it seems it was assisting her anyway. Remove or sleep the HUD, and suddenly she's the same speed in dragon or demon form. So anyway, be sure you're not wearing any HUDs when flying solo. Doesn't apply to flying in straps - those are 'vehicles' in SL, 'flight assist' modes can't help them.
   Also, John doesn't wear Mysti in dragon form because it interferes with the breath/flame.

   Improv seminar yesterday: Moira reported that "The seminar was interesting.  We discussed an actor's improv tool called "yes... and" where  "Yes" stands for "Whatever anyone says is so - follow enthusiastically." and  "And" stands for, "add information to move the roleplay along." Something that we can draw on to keep RP moving along and be interesting.  It's probably going to take some practice, but it's an interesting method." They also discussed "ways to support others in creating dialog so we're all engaged" and which will show that you have "heard" what was just said. Liriel added, "I'd like to see regular meetings on improving roleplay held when more people can attend. This isn't just a harper thing. I'm trying to drop out of teaching it."

   We somehow drifted into discussions of Conclaves. In the books, a Conclave is a gathering of all the Lord Holders. Later, a gathering of all the Lord Holders, Craftmasters and Weyrleaders. On Gianfar, a Conclave was a meeting of the Lord Holder and the Craftmasters. (Right now, that would be a short meeting.) In the Old Days they discussed what NPC events were going on that RPers could crash, what storylines they wanted to encourage, which characters they were going to highlight that week, what NPC events took place the week before (that didn't really  happen) that they wanted to make sure they mentioned in conversation with RPers.

   Discussed how to add RP to the next Gather (October 29), and whether to hold it in the '3500' area where there are several spots with Gather booths.
   Today, decided to meet on '3500' and practice RP conversation in a market.


   Are fine, HS tiers are covered.

   Ludo asked if there was interest in a class on improvisational acting - in our context, how to get RP going when nothing's planned. There was some interest.

   Discussed the NC about Weyr RP.
 - What do we do about missing people - assume they're here, invent some reason they're elsewhere? We can't control people's coming and going, have to play around it. NPCs are useful for that, as is done with the Harper masters.
 - Could we update the Gianfar backstory on the Web site?
 - How about a Rest-like place in the Weyr as a starting place for RP? There's a tavern in the Weyr (Rider Tavern, Shaula (217, 136, 54)) but Vee's not sure even she could find it 'on foot.' Looks as if the Weyr dining hall's the best bet.
 - Could anyone find tavern-like animations? Dancing on tables was suggested, also banging on tables (as applause).


   Vee: "...remain good. Although the new job is now snowballing work, which is limiting my time in SL. Anyway, full tiers were paid on schedule, Thuban is due the 8th and covered, the HS's on the 15th and covered. Planning to take the HS's to Grandfathered status this month. Ads are up to date (I hope...) The RPC has closed its centre, which is a shame, but Ael wasn't really promoting it... So, we're here for another month."

Gather recap
   Vee: " I want to thank everyone who helped out, I think we did very well! I'm still getting occasional 'when can we do that again?' queries from hatchies...  And, if we had an MVP award, I'd nominate Ayla, for stepping in on Saturday :)... [Giving flamethrowers to the hatchies] was something Snow & I had discussed, but Toady went ahead and did it. ... Now I have to figure out a way to give them Thread-burning flamethrowers next time ;)"
   We don't know why one set of DJs didn't show up, but we covered their time thanks to Ktahdn and Ayla.
   What didn't work? Vee "had committed to replacing the intersim tp's, and then got buried under BigQuery work at work. And, on Sunday, I completely forgot to send out notices, the way I did on Saturday. And should have done on Friday..."
   No one did ground or dragon races, which used to be popular.
   Maybe we shouldn't've had continuous DJ coverage, people don't like to walk out on a DJ. Maybe the middle slot could have been a schedule of events with no DJ.
   Publishing a schedule might have brought people to the events as well as outside. We paid too much attention to making a good advertising poster, none to making one with a schedule or notecard attached.
   Anyone with 'event rights' in a group can post to the SL Events calendar, and Vee thinks that almost everyone in Novi Peaks has such rights.
   But a making a published schedule means agreeing an outline schedule by at least the week before... and we never came up with more than a DJ schedule. Vee: " I think we need an event manager for gathers and similar events. Possibly two - someone to keep the planning and Vee-kicking on track, and someone to handle announcements and put out (unintentional) fires on the day... And neither person should be me." We were a bit better about assigning task responsibilities than formerly, but still not good enough.
   Una: "I think too once we get some approved poster variations and wording variations settled on ahead of time, that process will be much faster. Just plug in the dates."
   txep'ongokx: "I'd like to see Vee only responsible for last minute script changes... and all the notices and web posts designated to responsible agents."
   Vee: "We did better - and it showed, believe me! That was the best Gather we've run in some time, and we beat most sims' events hands-down (Lady V goes to far too many)... but, we can do better.
   Vee: So, October... a Halloween gather? <grins> Not that Pern has Halloween, or even pumpkins... but Gianfar has a demon."

   Liriel has "an idea for a class that will teach us what to do if we are in the middle of an unplanned event... on what to do when the event doesn't go as planned. It's basically how to make RP more interesting by using theater improv techniques."

   The race course in Tyl is still set up, so we could [and did] have informal foot/runnerbeast races today.  

Next week
   More Gather talk, and a Weyr RP discussion.

Title: Colin's meeting notes - book 28
Post by: Colin on October 15, 2017, 07:00:55 PM

   No report this week. 

   Discussed the present RP arc. Strange things are happening: mysterious messages are being found; crude boats are being built in a 'hidden' woodland; something's disturbing the firelizards on the north side of Firelizard Island. We may investigate the Island this afternoon; sweepriders could happen to go past there, fishing boats could come by, and folks who'd like to play shipfish (dolphins) could be recruited as spies.
   Talked about getting reports of RP posted more regularly in the hope of involving more folks.


   ,,,are still ok, but Vee hasn't checked our ads this week.  

    In today's exciting episode of AS THE ISLAND TURNS, we welcome back our intrepid Harpers from their mission of investigation to the north to run down rumors, as they return for more supplies.
   Further, we will engage in additional weyrling training as the need for low level sweep rides, for the dragons to SEE and BE seen, becomes apparent. This will also help, it is hoped, to reduce trepidation at the sight of dragons among the more remote islanders.
   Lastly, we will investigate some odd goings on in remote sections of Gianfar.
   RP Note: To facilitate chat in RP activities that have us spread out, we will try using a conference chat.
   Meeting at 2pm SLT in the Weyr bowl.


   No report.

   The next 5th Sunday will be at the end of April, hence good (if a bit late) for a Spring Gather.

   We were thinking/planning/preparing for island wide sweep rides - both for weyrling training as well as searching out signs of the disaffected, the rebels, etc. who seem to be stealing supplies, etc. We'll do something if enough people show up.
   We don't know whether Thread will fall... if it does we'll just assume it's really blackdust.


   Vee: "still ok. Novi can almost pay a month's full tier by herself (thank you, all!), and tier for this month is covered. I paid up all our ads midweek. hosting fees were due & paid last month."
   Vee won't be around for the rest of this week, after teaching the NCI RP class today.

Weather (Gianfar)
   Vee hasn't had time to replace Thread with Blackdust. She probably won't have time to implement it before Wednesday. She'll turn off Threadfall until Blackdust is in place - it literally replaces Thread.

New dragon
   Nekome came in wearing the Dawn Kingdoms Bento mesh dragon. Very impressive - and expensive. But every part of it is fully mod and you can load your own. Reference:

   At least a half dozen folks will show up this afternoon, to do whatever they decide to do. Planning meeting (postponed from yesterday) in the Harper Hall classroom at 12:00 SLT to decide.


No meeting or RP today, because of Turnover celebrations in First Life (and a deep freeze over about 1/3 of the U.S.).

It's snowing in Kuma.


   ...remain ok. Full tier for the 28th is covered, so we're here for another month. Vee had a job interview last week.

Threadfall & snowfall
   Vee had intended to replace Thread with dust last week but hadn't time.
   Also, the weather console forgot the emitter placements for Kuma and Tyl that we used last year, so we're having indoor snow. This is likely to be corrected. Pandora has shields that can be put in roofs to keep weather outside, but they work only at ground level. We have one that can work on platforms, but has only one console per parcel so we can have snow in the '3500' platform exclusive-or on the ground.

Quiet weeks
   No NCI RP class nor official RP today nor next Sunday. No meeting nor RP on New Year's Eve. Good time to sit back and plot adventures.


   "Financial report: we aren't broke. <grins>" Tier date is the 8th (Thuban), 15th (Homesteads), and 28th (full-power sims).

   Consider that dragons on patrol have noticed a buildup of storm clouds to the west. Seems likely that Thread will fall as black dust as long as the cold weather holds.
FLASH: "Snowfall is on in 4 sims - looks like we haven't put a weather system on Thuban yet, that'll come later. Ground snow is only on in Tyl, if you want to see the weather system in full effect. Clouds are at 100m up. We may do something to Windlight to get the full overcast effect - again, later..."

   Gathering this afternoon at 2pm SLT as usual, in the Hold dining hall one level down from the Council Chamber. The RP team has laid out food.


   No change, we're still here for another month, and Vee paid up our ads last night.  

Gianfar weather
   Are we going to have snow this winter? Probably later this week. And when the weather's that cold, Thread will freeze and fall as black dust. Black dust season could be a time of celebration, a few months without Threadfall.
   Are we going to have fireworks in January? Gelgisith is planning "a fireworks show that'll be remembered for a long time."

   We were planning, in a nutshell, to take reference from the coming winter season, and experience the last of the supply trains coming into the Weyr from places further north. This would be mostly a foodstuffs train. Lots of holders/crafters coming into the Weyr, interacting, etc. Hoping to see a few new/uncommon faces, at least... people who might be bringing stories/rumors of thefts of supplies or food stuffs from other parts of the island.
   For those who were at the last supply train run, we're not doing it that way again. We're just playing the very end of it, so you can come in without any special prep. You don't have to bring supplies because you already did, off stage. We could consider that the train had just arrived, but supplies, etc., were still partially out in wagons, not completely checked in yet, and people have gathered around to socialize, repeat rumors, etc.
   Looks like a good chance for our seldom-seem members to pop in. If we have any who may want to play a different character this afternoon - such as an NPC crafter - feel free to contact Dutch, Moira, Una, Colin, Ardrhys, or Liriel for clarification. Alts will be welcome.
   If anyone has any ideas, or request for RP/future RP, please get word to Dutch, Una, Moira, Colin, and/or Liriel. And Liriel will bet if anyone wants to meet with us on Saturdays at ten in the Harper Hall dragon room, you'd be on that list in no time.


   ...are fine - but don't let that stop anyone paying rent or making donations ;)

Victoria Island
   Dutch discovered that place north of northwestern Canada. It's shaped rather like a dragon and is about large enough (around 217 sq km, a bit larger than Great Britain) to sustain a population.

Events for next year
   Spent a while discussing what we might want to do next year. Only Relay for Life looks possible, and only if someone steps up to be a team captain.

   There are RP ideas being baked for future consumption, but none ready for today. So, meet at the Weyr and practice being dragons.


   Still sound. Vee went around and changed all our ads back from the Gather to the regular posters. Which involved paying an extra week on the NCI ones. Tiers are still covered for another month, ads are paid for for weeks out, and Novi's got more than a full sim's worth of tier in L$.

   The Gather hosted three visitors. There was dancing (thanks, Ayla!), runner racing, and dragon flying. Dutch took pictures...
...and so did Moira...
...who made a tapestry of her pic and hung it in the Archivist's office in Harper Hall.
   Next week we'll discuss when to hold the winter Gather. The 5th Sunday in December is New Year's Eve so maybe we'll aim for the 1st Sunday in January, the 7th.

   Vee held the annual memorial to Anne on Tuesday night. Wyn attended. Apparently no one thought to take pictures. However, we held it again right after the meeting.

   In our last episode, Varth was Threadscored so the Weyr staff will probably be busy soothing and healing him.
   Had a long discussion about how large the island "really" is. One thing established was that it's an archipelago, just in case we need to have an outlying island for an RP scenario.


   In Vee's absence we can assume from last week's report that everything's covered for now.  

Foot race course
   ardrhys and Linn rode their ((horses)) around the course and had thoughts about setting up a new one. Stay tuned.  

   Yesterday we had about 10 people, including one visitor, dancing to Ayla's Celtic music. Today we have the "Race to the Hatching Sands" game board out; the hoops and rings courses for winged folk; the foot/runner race course; 7 Seas fishing at Fisher/Dolphin Hall and in the '3500' area; and of course folks can dance to the default music streams.


   ".. remain good. HS tiers on the 15th are covered. I just checked Novi's balance last night and we have enough to pay a full sim and an HS tier - in addition to the upcoming FS & HS tiers that are already covered. We'll be here through the end of the year, unless something major happens like an SL tier hike. And I paid up all our ads last night.

Magazine articles
   The Atlantic has published a long article about SL. Starts out as a downer but concludes that SL is good for some things.
   Ars Technica has published a shorter article... that refers to SL as a "game."
   Neither writer really understood SL.

Virtual reality?
   Quick discussion of VR. VR requires 90 frames/second and SL's max is 45 - hardwired. VR projects from other companies like EVE Online are being abandoned. "This is why LL is refocusing on SL - there will be no revenue from Sansar yet."

Gather planning
   The Fairports won't be able to DJ for us; they have four events that week.
   Una has created "Dragon Tour" posters, we're hoping they'll lead to more visitors taking rides.
   Dutch is keeping the Gather poster updated. Vee will start putting it out at our ad sites today or tomorrow.
   Vee will control Threadfall timing.
   She's working on the egg hunt scripts; may have improved ones ready, can fall back on last year's if necessary.
   Might not want to do a fishing contest, as people who come for 7 Seas fishing tend to ignore the rest of the event. No problem with just having the fishing available. The vendors are owned by Novi Peaks so the revenue will go to tier.
   Moira could put a little info board by the landing areas, with a NC with a little blurb and LMs to the different activity areas.

   Starting at the Rest. Maybe "finalizing" Gather plans, including visiting activity sites. Continuing the injured dragon story line if there are enough folks here.


   Remain good... FS tiers paid last week, Thuban tier coming up & covered, ads are up to date, website hosting renewed on schedule. Vee's optimistic about finding a good job.

IoW news
   The Isles lost their founder's last two sims; we assume that the owner stopped paying for them. LL brought them back yesterday for a final cleanup... but Cathedral and Limbo are gone, which is a little bit of our history going away, too, since DoP was founded in the Isles. So there won't be any more IoW dragons; the vendors went with Cathedral and apparently no one had any rights to grab them. There are still wyrmlings on Marketplace.
   The community has sims owned by others and has transferred stuff to other sims that was on Cathedral and Limbo. Vee's heard that one of the sims is even trying to duplicate Cathedral.

Fall scripts
   Vee has updated the Fall timers for daylight savings. Also, she's testing the ability to 'pause' the Fall cycle for events... such as meetings. It worked - we heard the sound of no Thread falling.  

Gather planning and Anne's memorial
   Agreed that the Gather will run from noon till 6pm on Sat-Sun Nov 18-19.
   What are we going to do for Gather that doesn't require scheduling? Games, displays, or whatever.
   Rides on the scripted dragons have been popular, should be publicized.
   The "Race to the Hatching Sands" board game can be played any time; we should test it so that anyone who's around can lead it.
   We could have a firelizard egg hunt.
   The dragon course and runner course could be used any time. We could avoid problems of people using 'assist' hacks to cheat by offering prizes for only supervised races; we'd know how long it takes to do the courses at standard speeds. How could we have runner races without the horses acting as assists? Maybe we could figure how to provide 'standard' horses but probably not in two weeks.
   Harper events...
   Hatchie raids...
   Photo contest, maybe a "donate to vote" style which might drive traffic and boost our tier reserve.
   Tunnel Snake Hunt could be a good game if we had time to invent it.
   Colin will handle the runner race course, as usual. Ardrhys will look after the dragon time trials and races. Dutch will donate toward the photo contest prize and generally assist with the contest, including removing anything A-rated or advertising or just out of theme.
   We'll have a memorial event for Anne just after Gather closing (at 6pm) on Sunday. The main memorial will be on Tuesday the 21st, the anniversary of her death.
   Ayla will DJ from 2 till 4 on Saturday. Vee will see if she can recruit the Faircloths.
   We'll discuss scheduling next week.

   We'll be continuing with the 'injured dragon' story line from last week, and doing some flight training, and trying to keep Varth from injuring herself by trying to fly before her wing's healed.


   Vee's new employer is downsizing so she'll be out of work again in 6 weeks. Gianfar's safe through year end. And she has two possibilities. And all other Finances news is good - tiers paid, future tiers covered, ads up to date, etc.

   Discussed how to get a pic of dragons flying in formation as a background for the poster. Discussed whether to do a one- or two-day event, will aim for noon-6pm SLT unless someone comes up with a persuasive schedule by next meeting.

   Speculated about a storyline of a dragon and rider being injured in a Fall. That would involve rescuing and healing both human and dragon. We'll need the dragon and rider, at least one more pair (or two) to rescue them, healers, weyrfolk, and of course at least one Harper.
   Dutch suggested appointing a painter (photographer) to record RP events. Colin said we could then have illustrated RP stories on the Web site. John and Una volunteered to take pics and of course the more people we have shooting, the more pics we'll have to choose from for the site.  


   ... still good. And Vee's interviewing for a really good job this week, while still maintaining her current role.

   Looks as if the Saturday meetings will continue, with RP-related classes possible in November and December.

   Decided to slip into November, probably the 18-19th. (Anne's day is 21st Nov, which is a Tuesday this year.) We'll discuss it next week.
   Nekome's been experimenting with Thuban, so everything there is temporary. We'll meet near or at Moira's home there, and explore... assuming the land's not terraformed out from under us by then.


   "... remain good. All ads are up to date, HS sims due today and covered, FS sims on the 28th are covered, and Thuban on the 8th. So we're here for another month. Website paid for, too. Novi's inworld balance was good last time I checked."  

General news
   So far, we haven't heard of any of "us" being hit by the fires in Northern California, but one's close to Moira. Vee and Wyn both have colds but aren't yet suffering from the smoke.
   Vee may be away for a while, doctors permitting. Stay tuned.
   Methos: "Anyone with e-reader or kindle app on computer: is $1.99 today."
   Wyn reported that Todd's "Dragongirl" is also $1.99.
   There have been some alterations to Thuban.

Scripting news
   Vee: "I threw myself into Gianfar scripting yesterday, which you'll all notice next time you pick up a flamethrower. Flamethrowers are now Experience-based. So no more permissions dialogs once you're in the experience. Also, they now have 'fuel'. Anyway, next time you go touch a Flamethrower Rack, you'll either be asked to join the Gianfar Experience, or - if already in it - the flamethrower will just attach. And when you use it, it'll tell you how much is left in the tank. And detach when you use it all up, or when 4 minutes have passed, or you teleport or walk off the sim. 'How much' is measured in quarter-tanks. When it says 'your tank is '1/4 full', that means you have *under* 25% left. I wanted to make sure you have to run back for refills, so I made the 'capacity' fairly small.
   "So... please play with the new flamethrowers - the rack in the practice Thread area was updated - and see what you think. The new scripts are chattier. Oh, and you can remove the flamethrower by touching it now - should reset the animation properly, but no guarantees.
   "By now, all Viewers should do Experiences. Although not all support scripting for Experiences, I hear. But to keep SL certification, viewers are supposed to have integrated Experience-running code.
   "Thread isn't all shouty anymore. Well, not when it starts growing.
   "One change for practice Thread... there's now an invisible barrier near the top of the stack, which will warn off pairs trying to fly that high and get close to the rezzers. Hopefully before hitting your dragon's head on the ceiling. Also removed some stray prims that may have been causing issues in the area."

   To be discussed next week or maybe during this week if Vee's around.

Weyr - NPC characters
   To be discussed next week.  

   No time to make plans. Vee will be here, watching what we think of the new flamethrowers while she still has the code open.  

Title: Colin's meeting notes - book 29
Post by: Colin on February 04, 2018, 08:42:44 PM
(continued in Book 30)


No official meeting.

PERN-suitable clothing:
   Dutch found some sites. Dreaming Thicket - Multitudes (128 128, 17) - has "druid-y stuff" that fits our style. Belle Epoque - Wild Willows (174, 132, 23) - has good-looking free "Mina boots".


   Full sim tiers are due this week and will be covered from Novi's balances. So we're here for another month. There's actually going to be some left over, for the next tiers, so thanks for that :)

Pern Day
   We decided that we'd best not try to plan an Event for the weekend, just have things for people to do - occasional dance music, the race courses, and so forth - possibly extending into Monday.  We might offer visitors a chance to do a little informal roleplay with us.  We've found Pern music, including the "Masterharper of Pern" CD

Ensemble music
   Moira, Dutch, and Martin are working with the Mikki Miles ensemble instruments.  They had an intro class/practice last Tuesday, and will have another practice this coming Tuesday at 7 pm SLT (and others are welcome to join in). Vee's put that on the Web calendar.

   Vee's adding the meetings of the RP Committee to the Web calendar: Saturdays, 10am SLT, Harper Hall performance hall.
   There won't be an NCI RP class next Sunday.  
   Today's RP: "Gianfar Faces Life - Life Shudders and Turns Away"
Starting Point: Weyr
Plan A:
Confront thread or train or maintain equipment
Plan B:
Gather a force to confront Veekar on behalf of the Lady Holder


   Vee: "I paid our ad bills last night, and the HS's were paid on the 15th on schedule. The FS's on the 28th should be covered by Novi's balances. Next tier date is Thuban on the 8th, but I'm not worried about the HS's - typically LL will give us grace on them as long as we can keep the fulls current, and last time we hit bottom they gave us a month to get the tiers paid up, when we asked them (in advance)."  

LL updates
   Vee: "Side mention for any premium members, your tier just went down and your free allotment doubled. Sadly, that doesn't help Gianfar at all."

Pern Day Gather
   To be discussed during the week, as we ran out of time as usual.  

   With warmer weather coming (the Gianfar snow turned to rain last night). we're planning for Threadfall to resume.  Time for dragons and riders to get back in shape, and ground crews to check the flamethrowers. There was speculation about 'mud' textures for dragons' feet and tails. And while umbrellas are high-tech, straw hats are medieval.
   We'll also likely be discussing the state of the story lines... whether Koenig has recovered or died, whether we know more about the conspiracy(s)... and so forth.
   Dutch: "On another note - the RP Plotting and Nefarious Planning Team® has started a document keeping track of RP ideas, for use in future events. If anyone has any ideas they would like to see in practice, please let any of us on the team know, and we can then track the idea for eventual use. (Thank you)
   "We've also started keeping track of location names we're coming up with - for use later (and to not rearrange locations around the island). If anyone has a location they wish to see/hear, please let us know (again on the RP Planning & Nefarious Plotting Team). The names will be posted to a Forum thread."
   Martin: "And from the scheduling to schedule department, I'm up to six responses on the questionnaire."


   Vee: "Paid our ad rentals last night, when I sent the DST notice. HS sim tier, due on the 15th, is covered, but we'll have to draw down from Novi to cover the full sims on the 28th. After that, we'll see..."

Pern Day Gather
   Two days? three? Including Monday, which will be a holiday for some people? Sat-Sun-Mon, Sun-Mon-Tue, or Other? Some short RPs for guests, maybe 30 minutes, like a flit hatching? A Pun and Alliteration contest? A Bardic circle? Perhaps a DJ or two?  

   Una reported: "Koenig was badly injured and flown to Healer Hall.  The rest of the party has been traveling on foot to Healer Hall where Martin will be checked over again, and where we hope to get an update on Koenig's condition. We continue to investigate mysterious notes and items found on the bodies of the folks found at the cabin."
   Dutch would like to kill Koenig or write him out of future RP. However, the rules say "Absolutely NO deaths (except by prearrangement and admin permission)".  Vee "think(s) that rule was intended for combat and Threadfall, not planned exits. But, if it needs my permission, you have it." So Koenig's fate is up to the Healers.
   However, the AVATAR Koenig is also a dolphin, and may return as other NPCs - each time with a titler.
   So the group (Harpers and others) will arrive at Healers' Hall at 2pm SL[daylight saving]T.

RP survey
   Martin's gotten five responses to his RP availability survey so far. It's at
The more responses we get, the more likely we are to be able to announce that N people would be interested in playing on Xdays from Y till Z o'clock.

Other RP ideas
   Writing OOV documents is encouraged, in whatever fashion you feel moved. Anyone who posts to the Web site frequently can help you get started with that; text can be prepared off-line (e.g., with Notepad) and copy/pasted into a Web entry.
   We are starting a list of RP Ideas for future raiding - if you have anything you would like to see in PERN, please let us know, we can document the idea (so it doesn t get lost) and slot it at earliest opportunity.


   Vee: "Thuban's due on the 8th and covered, HS's due on the 15th and covered. The fulls are due on the 28th, currently we're planning to draw down Novi's balance to cover that. So we're here another month."

   Soo Novi visited the meeting. For the newcomers (who joined less than about 9 years ago), she was the main founding member of Gianfar.

   Moira held a class Tuesday evening. She introduced Nekome's character building forms. They're available in a basket of eggs on the Council meeting table.

Sci-Fi Con
   Vee: "Jade & I (mostly Jade) have a concept, which Wyn has seen and Pat has helped with. And I just twisted the boss's [Soo's] arm, going to make her help too. Our current Cunning Plan[tm] involves a 'ground' level made of mountains & jungle, with booths at different levels hidden in weyrs and trees. I think we're going to take on the 52x52 booth ourselves so it can be part of the build - which means we'll have to sell more booths to cover costs. Upper level is a still-undefined space station, and our 'event's area... you get to visit the Red Star. So "we" are responsible for a full sim build, with multiple levels.
   "Oh, one of the Con sims is for the Milky Way Cabaret - they get a sim to themselves, because they/we are phenomenally popular and can lag everyone else out of existence. Tried having the MWC on a dedicated Events sim 3 years back, and nothing else on the sim was accessible during performances. So the Con's trying something different this year - the booth sims will each have an Event space, and the MWC get their own sim, which will also be used for big events - actor interviews and the like.
   "There's also a Sci-Fi Expo this May. Run by people who think dragons & Pandorans aren't sci-fi, and much smaller. So if  you see announcements about Sci-fi Alliance events, check whether they're for the Con or the Expo. The Con we're involved in; the Expo, we're not."

   Pern Day and April Fools' Day and Easter coincide. Vee's "thinking a long Gather, spread over Easter, might be appropriate." We were short on time today so "we'll discuss the Gather next week, and try to make that most of the meeting."

   Vee: "When would we like the snowstorm to end? When do we want a thaw? These are separate items. I'd like to thaw out by Pern Day, if that works for everyone [it did], so the storm will abate in the next week or two. Thread will resume when the thaw is underway. I'll pick the most inconvenient time."
   Martin, following up on the conversation John brought up last week about additional RP times during the week: "I  put together a Google form that could be used to get people's availability for scheduling some of these events.  A few people here have seen it already, and Moira recommended I bring it to the group here to see what, if anything, could be done with it.
It's a basic form - what roles do you play, what times could you make, what things do/don't you want to see." We decided that it would be helpful to include avatar names, that alts could be included in one's primary response or submitted separately, and that there was no need for an alt to say "I am an alt of So-and-So.") Vee replied, "Of course, now you [Martin] put yourself in charge of analysing the responses."  
   Today's outline:
Pick up on Vee’s ‘dropped message’?
More info on Harper Anonymous.
Martin and party (harpers, and such) en route back to Harper Hall come across a scene and a witness at a Trader Station.


   Vee: "Short-term outlook is the same - full sim tiers, due this week, are covered, so are ads & website & stuff. Longer term... I didn't get the job I had the final interview for, but I'm up for several more & have interviews scheduled all next week."

Sci-Fi Con
   Vee: "The Con will be in September, probably 10 days starting the 21st. (14th also an option). Jade & I are planning on sponsoring a sim... Pandora meets Gianfar, anyone? Anyway, it'll be expensive - but maybe not as much as you might think. Sponsoring a sim means essentially being allocated one, recruiting the exhibitors. and controlling its use. I'll have to cover more about the Con next week, or during the week.  
   "Varahi from the Companions [Firefly genre] is sponsoring one, too."

   Moira: "I taught the "Gianfar is Different" class last Tuesday evening at 7 pm for our newer folk.  This coming Tuesday at 7 pm I will do a class on creating a character background. It went well, I think.  Jullianna, Martin and Dutch were there.  They had some good questions, and we ran over the normal time length. Not sure after next week, when I will be able to teach again, but I wanted to try and get a couple of the basic classes in for the new players."

News of old members
   Ryu Darragh, one of the original Gianfar players, who designed our oldest Thread system, is back in the hospital after a heart attack.
   Sable Ashborne, who was the original teacher of the Gianfar classes. has breast cancer.
   Searaven Raymaker is eager to return to Gianfar but is going to school and working full time. He was the Seacraft Master, after he lost his dragon. He and his lady Belladona got married in Seacouver.
   Vee spoke to Riss last week, she's out until July, but may make occasional visits.

RP, current
   Last Sunday, we came across a dead body as well as Adara being kidnapped and able to get away.  We sent a flit with a message to Healer Hall and Rissaly (new member Julianna) came out to take a look at the body.
   Today, RP will start in the Weyr bowl.
RP Points:
    Martin arrives at the Weyr, is interviewed - getting an idea about who he is and why he was heading to the Weyr, considering the unsettled state and the rebels.  Getting a feel that he's genuine and not a spy or a rebel.
    Report on strange ships
    More info on Harper Anonymous.
    Hunt for Koenig? Strange figures spotted near trader’s station? Is this him? [Today, Colin's cabin is being a way station for Trader trains to/from the north.]
RP, future
   Who's interested in reviving SL-evening RP? Bath Night's still on the Web calendar for 6:30 pm SLT Tuesdays.    


   Vee: "...short term, still ok. Full sim tiers are due next week and covered. I paid ad rentals last night. Longer term, outlook cloudy, but don't panic yet. I did finally have that final interview last week, I'm waiting on the outcome - and I'm also in process with <counts on fingers> 4 other companies where I'm past the initial stage. And Novi has enough funds for 2 full-sim tiers, according to my rough calculations."

SF Con, SLB, Pern Day
   The Con has been moved to September, so we have lots of time, for a change; planning starts in a few days.
   SLB, don't have dates yet, but planning is definitely underway, and it's not like the Birthday actually moves around much. So we can start thinking about what we can do for a booth this year. How we can make a 32x32 square with no more than 100m vertical and *lots* of lag, stand out...
   Pern Day is more immediate, and it's *ours*. Also, April 1 is a Sunday... and Easter. Chocolate firelizards?  

   Vee: "Nekome, Wyn & I had a chat last week, as some of you noticed. Upshot is, some work will be done on Thuban to finish it up, then we'll reopen it fully. Idea is to put a number of sets there - including maybe another cothold, or some fields. Not currently planning any more links to Shaula, so walking along the beach will remain the best access. Not going to place any Crafts there at this time, and the volcano is staying gone: It's going to be a lake instead. ;)"

   Vee: " Something I don't think I've made clear often enough... OOC, a Craft cannot refuse anyone who wants to be an Apprentice. IC, by all means have entrance interviews and tests and selection boards and what have you, makes for fun RP - but the outcome will always be 'accepted' if that's what the player wants. Same as the Weyr, for dragonpairs. Progression in a Craft, however... that's up to the Craftmasters. Excepting Runnercraft, I'd like some similar approach to progression and 'walking the tables' in each Craft - but they shouldn't be identical, and of course the minor Crafts will need to be handled differently."

   Today's episode is titled "The Young and the Holdless"...
Pick up on a ‘dropped / found message’
Return of thread-fall due to a weather inversion (will a ship need to be rescued at sea?)
Discovery of an apparent signal fire AND a hidden cot
Report on strange ships
More info on Harper Anonymous
   Meet in the Weyr bowl at 2pm.  


   "...remain good, short term. Paid up all our ads last night. Thuban was paid on time, and the HS tiers for the 15th are covered. And the Full sims on the 28th." Longer term, Vee's still interviewing for jobs. "Fortunately, Novi is very well funded right now (thank you, everyone!), which probably gives Gianfar another month's cover."

   Terraforming is waiting for Wyn, as only she can upload a new RAW file and bake it in.

    Vee reported that "While interviewing Juli last week - she passed, btw... we noticed some of the website's links weren't functioning correctly ('Roles', for example). On investigation, I found that a bunch of articles for the front page, and some forum posts, seem to have disappeared. The links generate the correct query for the website's database - but the entries are gone. So far as I can tell, this only affects Soo and me - the only ones who've been able to post front-page articles - but if anyone finds any other posts missing, please let me know. I think they were 'lost' when the database was upgraded, a few months back. (You may remember me screaming when a bunch of website scripts suddenly failed because their databases went missing or got wiped.) Fortunately, I have backups... and the backups have the missing articles. The downside is, I don't know SimpleMachine's data structures, and just inserting the missing records doesn't seem to work (tried it on a copy I made). So I'll probably have to recreate the articles by hand and relink the links. Which means I can also rewrite them... So anyway, if you see anything malfunctioning on the website, let me know. Maybe I'll even get around to upgrading us to v2 and turning registration on again."

   While we were discussing Julianna's proposed name, John mentioned a Web site with a "Pern name" generator:
   Wyn (owner of Kuma) authorized Masterhealer John to assign a room in Healers' Hall to Ris.

Pern Day
   We'll be celebrating Anne McCaffrey's birthday on April 1, as usual.

   Meeting in the Hold's dining hall at 2pm SLT today. Topics:
   Further investigation on the abandoned, damaged wagon with some stolen merchandise (including from the Lady Holder’s wine stocks).
   Further discussion on the crates from the shipwrecks.
   Influx of people from nearby cotholds, etc - lack of supplies/foods.
   More people on their way from further north.
   (Idea was to get some RP in the Hold by having it loaded with refugees from bad winter and renegades' thefts.)
   The RP planning team (open to all) meets in the Harper performance hall, top floor of Harper Hall, at 10am SLT Saturdays.


   All bills have been paid. Vee has yet another final interview this week.

   This week's report:

Thus far, on As the Island Churns, we have seen many, many things, including:
   Strange scraps of hide were found, with cryptic messages on them - the Harper Hall is attempting to decipher them
   We have received reports of thefts and shortages from up north, specifically the area of Far Cry Hold in the northeast.
   In addition to generic thefts, livestock has gone missing.
   Several holds up north are severely short of foodstuffs.
   Similar reports of thefts, as well as strange sails, ships not following the ‘law of the sea’ from Sea’s Cry Seahold, also in the northeast.
   However it is possible that the person reporting for this seahold (who called himself Koenig) was not who or what he presented himself as.
   An accidental discovery of an illicit ship building area on the coast. Obviously hidden and camouflaged, yet the boats being built there, of green, unseasoned wood are more suited towards lakes and inland waterways, than the high sea.
    Flits were set to watch over this location.
    Sweep riders were asked to monitor this location, and be alert for additional locations.
   A further accidental discovery of a broken wagon, piled with illicit (stolen) cargo was found secreted in a cave underneath the weyrling barracks. This included at least a case of the Lady Holder’s own fine Benden Wine.
   Qat was accepted as an apprentice dolphineer at the (main) Gianfar Seahold.
   A shipwreck with several deceased crew members was discovered at Firelizard Island. The ship was unsuited to open sea voyages. Among the cargo recovered were two locked chests.
   There is talk, amongst some in the know, that some of these latest troubles may have been started by a return of Karl, or his followers.
   (Google doc name is: RP Summaries - What's Happened So Far)
   (We'll meet at 2pm in the Harper Hall dining room to discuss all the info that's been collected.)
   (RP planning meetings are held at 10am Saturdays in the Harper Hall third floor performance hall / classroom. All are welcome to come and give input. The more people are involved, the more interesting will be the RP.)

Title: Colin's meeting notes - book 30
Post by: Colin on April 15, 2018, 07:14:12 PM

This was a sort of unofficial meeting, as Vee was busy being a stage manager at SL15B.

Price reduction:
   As the change occurs at the end of June, we had to decide, right away,  whether and how to take advantage of this. Vee and Wyn were discussing adding an OS Region south of Kuma. New OS Regions won't be available after July 2. An OS Region has a land capacity of 1000 and an avatar limit of 10; looks as if we could use one for sailing and some RP. We seldom have more than 10 people in an RP session.
   There's no price change on grandfathered Regions (Shaula & Kuma, $195/mo ea, and Thuban, HS, $95/mo). So we'd save $14/month on each of the two HS's. That makes about half the cost of maintenance on a new OS Region. The setup fee for a new OS Region is $150 but that includes the first month's maintenance.
   As of 1pm SLT, no decision had been made.

   Was postponed again as we concentrated on the OS question.


   Vee: "We did get Wyn unblocked last week, but it took a couple of days longer when a support Linden suddenly changed the deal on us. But anyway, we drained Novi and Wyn's shop alt, and so Kuma, Etamin & Thuban are now officially up to date. Shaula & Tyl, not so much... I have a paycheck, but it's physical & was mailed on Friday and hasn't arrived yet, despite being Fedexed 'overnight'. And yes, Fedex do Saturday delivery as routine - but some of their drivers prefer not to, and intentionally leave packets at the depot, claiming residential addresses as 'commercial, no-one to accept package'. That's why your Amazon orders don't arrive on weekends as often as they should. (Fedex always apologise & issue a credit if you complain to them, btw.) But anyway, in a couple of days Gianfar will be paid up to date and the tier hell will be over."

   Opens at noon. Website is
It has schedules for all the Stages and links to all the Exhibits, this year.
   Vee: "Take a pod ride, anyway. Takes a few hours and the layout means the pods have to keep back & forthing, so our exhibit is passed 3 times, for instance. Pod barn is next to the Welcome Area, which is 2 sims this year - and in the very worst place for lag. Treat SLB as a *very* busy club, basically. Complexity down, avi impostors off, advanced lighting off, draw distance in... and wait a bit for all the graphics to download. But, try to get advanced lighting back when you're looking at builds. Also, heading to SLB in the middle of SL's 'night' is a good way to see the exhibits. DJ stages are open 24 hours, but they're actually a sim away from the exhibits, so they shouldn't lag anyone."
   Vee has posted a Notice with LMs to the Gianfar, Pandora, and WoRPG exhibits.
   Vee: "Jade & Wyn did an amazing last-minute-build for us. And Pat's Pandora booth is gorgeous. There's a lot of really good exhibits this year. But I'm going to highlight two SLB builds, one to look at, one to explore... Take a look at DJ Stage South. It's made by the designer who built the last two Cake stages. You may need to pull your draw distance out to get the full effect, DJ South is 2 sims. And, the Auditorium. It's only scheduled for 4 hours today, the last of which is my RP class at 3pm. There are roleplay sim builds that took months with less detail than the 'USS Crystal'... explore it. ... From 6pm, I'll be stage-managing at DJ Stage North, if anyone feels like partying."

   Dutch: "We figured most people would be out checking the SL15 build, so we kinda planned that RP would not happen today - to give people time to peruse the BD build. We are all set up for NEXT WEEK, however, with a nice 'plot' and the Tannercraft cot in NW Tyl is already staged."


   Vee: "I'm still employed, I get paid Friday, so tiers are covered. The bad news is, Wyn's main account is [temporarily] blocked. Other than that, I paid all our ads last night, all bills except Thuban (which was due Friday) and the full sim tiers are up to date, and the rest will be paid Friday. Assuming my pay arrives Friday. [We don't need financial help] at present, she'll be talking to the Lindens today, and if they won't unblock her, she'll phone Linden Billing tomorrow when the phone lines are up. We don't anticipate any issues. My main issue is with having my chief builder blocked 4 days before the SLB exhibit is due... But she has several alts, and they aren't blocked."

SLB volunteers' party
   Vee: "Some of you may remember I said I'd volunteered the sims to host a party for the SLB volunteers. That got bumped to today... So, from noon until 4pm (at least), you're all invited to a party on the 3500 level islands. OOC, and we're the hosts, so be nice. [Dress code?] M-rated. But I hear the sim owner's very flexible. Bring a friend or two, if you want. Don't bring whole RP groups, though - this is for the SLB, and on behalf of the SLB Greeters, so I'll be annoyed if Shaula gets full of non-SLB folk. If you can, be here for 1pm. We booked a live act, Donn DeVore... his show is... let's just say spectacular. I'll be at the party the whole time... feel free to turn up as dragons or firelizards, btw. We're unlikely to recruit from this crowd, but we can definitely show off on our own sims. I'll put [the landing LM] in a notice, but the slurl is Shaula (173,168,3523) which is at the top of a zipline to the dance floor."

   Vee: "No class today - oh, and next Sun is SLB opening day, I won't be here except for the 10am meeting. I'll be teaching my class at 3pm in the Auditorium, and stage-managing on one of the DJ stages from... 6, I think. And Greeting the rest of the time."

   Postponed because of the SLB party.  


Master Moira
   ...will be missed. We're hoping she'll drop in occasionally, RL permitting.

New member
   Welcomed John Zane (John Zane Helendale (bbj19728)).

   Vee: "We just, as expected, missed the tier on the full sims. I'm still waiting for my first paycheck - was due Friday, hopefully it's in the mail. But that check's only for 3 days. First real paycheck will be on the 15th. Which is when tier will be caught up. That one will be direct deposit... so there's no excuses for it being late. On the other side, the client is nice and remote working is going well (after 1 whole day of it). So I hope we're through the worst of it... And I paid all our ads yesterday. Even paid our hosting bill for the website. So that'll be around for another year :)"

   Vee: "Just quickly, is looking very impressive this year! Still 2 weeks to opening. I had the first part of my stage manager training today - I'll be on the DJ Stages - and I've had my Moderator training... I'm not supposed to tell you anything about SLB or the exhibits, but I will say that people have really taken the 'Crystal' theme and run with it. More so than previous themes, which have tended to be a bit... vague.
   "I just agreed to host a party for the SLB Greeters, next weekend ;) Figure I'll use the 3500 level on Shaula. Just Saturday, from 1pm. And, feel free to drop by."

   RP: 20180603 - Cauldron Boil and Bubble
Starting Point: The Hills of Thuban - Thuban (167,90,38)
Plot A: Numbweed processing
Plot B: All those who are too slow to get away, end up chatting about events on the island, such as:
     What happened to Master Moira?
     How WILL the Weyr protect all these sharding cots which keep springing up?
     Did you SEE what she did to him?
     etc. & other gossip
   We also plan on a few group calls during RP, so ask people to reset their environment editors for time of day (morning/noon/evening and night) just to show off some of the great sights.


   Vee finally landed a job! So the sims are safe, after she and Wyn talk to LL in the next few days. They'll be asking LL to take a partial payment and let us catch up on the 15th. Should be ok, they've done similar before. We think we have Thuban covered on the 8th.
   The company wants Vee to be onsite (90 minutes away) for the first few weeks, so she'll be in a hotel room with hotel wi-fi starting Tuesday. After that startup period, the job will be mostly remote.
   Tiers are US$195 (due on the 28th) for the two full sims, US$125 (on the 15th) for the two homesteads, US$95 (on the 8th) for Thuban.

   Vee: "2 parts to this. We got our booth - and PHT got theirs. Wyn should be around this week, building our booth and transporting it to the SLB site. (We like to wait until we know where the pods are running and how many booths are looming over ours on which sides, before fixing the orientation.) I'm working as an EA - Exhibitor Assistant - up to opening day, and a Greeter thereafter - and a Stage Manager. Hopefully, I'll be working mostly from home by opening day. So even when I'm online, I'll be in Gianfar less until the Birthday is done and we collapse the Cake Stage, which is... 6 weeks? Something like that. But I'm carving out Sundays, so I should always be here for meetings and Sunday RP.
   "There's still time to volunteer for some roles, btw :) Stage manager requires being able to commit to 2-hour shifts, and cope with several potentially full sims full of laggy dancers at once - Cake is 4 sims, Auditorium and one of the DJ stages are 2 sims. Not sure if Greeter apps are still open, but Greeters set their own schedules and go where they want. Also, we have the best parties.
   "Oh, you're going to love the Auditorium set this year. I'm not allowed to say why. But when you get to see it, go explore it... not just the stage area,"

RP: 20180527 How Now, Brown Cow?

Starting Point: Runner’s Rest (on an evening)
(and please watch your step (you'll see why)

Plan A:
     HOW ON PERN, DID A herdbeast GET INTO THE storerooms of the Rest?
     An Apprentice reported LOST in tunnels, while exploring.... (VERY, VERY lost....)

Plan B:
     Pondering about the ring(s)

(All of which depends on how many folks show up on a holiday weekend.)


   Vee: "Amazingly all the HS's are paid for (or should be, I should check with Wyn). FS's are going to be an issue, but we've a whole week to work on that... and many thanks to everyone who stepped up and helped out!" She continues to have a stack of interviews scheduled.

   Vee: "In other news, SL15B is around the corner. We should find out if we got a booth tomorrow; I'm an EA again, so, if we get one, I'll be able to claim our plot on Friday. I'm also a greeter, a moderator, and (for the first time) likely to be a stage manager, so I might be a little busy for the weeks of the Birthday...
   "I think Doc's holding the volunteer applications open, if anyone else feels like being a Greeter or a Stage manager... and SLBs are always looking for DJ's & Auditorium performances. Biggest stage in SL - literally; Cake Stage is 4 sims, and there should be at least 2 other sim-sized stages... Auditorium is 2 sims, one for the audience, although the space you work in is a lot smaller. I put in an application to teach my class, again ;) Oh, and expect a Cake Stage looking as, well, 8-bit as the last 2. Same designer this year, Mikati. Nature of the stages is, a lot of scheduled DJ's can't make it, so they're always looking for last-minute fill-ins. Just getting into the Performers group and being ready to jump in for 2 hours on any even-numbered hour can get you several gigs, even if you're not scheduled."

   Vee: "The other big news of last week was Jade's installation at the Feminist Shrine, in a very nice little ceremony. It's a nice little forest parcel, and Gianfar gets a mention... go visit before someone else gets 'installed'. (Guys welcome, too.) Seeking Wisdom (16,17,22)"
   Dutch: "Amazon has more infor on the upcoming Gigi McCaffrey PERN novel - it will be 9th pass, and feature Piemur."

   Dutch: "Last week we investigated some rings which were found by Ayla in one of her .... whatever she calls her voyages of discovery... for today, we propose re-assembling at the Smithcraft Hall to further hear reports on the provenance of the rings, and to also report to the Holder on suspicions regarding Cloud Shadow hold and all. We also have a Harper and Holder mediated dispute between the Smithcraft Hall and the Beastcraft Hall over grazing rights in the land immediately outside and between both halls; and, we also have an apprentice, being an apprentice, all planned for your amusement. This week's chapter is entitled: Hold Improvement.
   "Starting point will be the Smithcraft Hall. I would (again) recommend any to show up outside and make the (long) walk up the ramp to the doors. Stage setting was not limited to indoors only."


   The HS tiers on the 15th are not covered, currently. Based on past LL practice, the HS's are probably safe if Wyn & Vee talk to LL tomorrow - they'll probably let us be a week or two late on the FS's, too. Vee's continuing to do job interviews.

   In today's RP - we will re-attempt that which we had originally scheduled for last week, but didn't have much in the way of participation to make it worthwhile. Over all, we have the following items selected:
   RP: 20180506 A Place to Call Hall
Starting Point: SmithCraft Hall (Outside)

Plan A: More on Ayla’s found ring.
                    Inquire of smiths as to provenance of ring.

Plan B: The Lusty Month of May
                    Preparations for spring planting
                    Plows and other farm implements
                    Upcoming numbweed harvests

   As always, if anyone wishes to have input to the plotlines, etc., please let any of us (on the RP team) know - or show up @ our 10 AM Saturday's meeting in the Harper Hall classroom.
   A few of us have thought about coming as alternate characters, so - come on down (everybody) and meet some new (to you) folk (the fun part of alts is trying to figure out who is driving ....)


   Vee: "Aren't great. I think we have Thuban's tier, due this week, covered, from Novi's funds." The job hunt is continuing to not go well. [Editorial comment: It's time to dig into our personal reserves, or we'll lose Gianfar.]

   RP: 20180506 A Place to Call Hall

Starting Point: SmithCraft Hall (Office)

Plan A: More on Ayla’s found ring.
                    Inquire of smiths as to provenance of ring.

Plan B: The Lusty Month of May
                    Preparations for spring planting
                    Plows and other farm implements
                    Upcoming numbweed harvests


   Vee: "Full sims were due this weekend; as advertised, we drained Novi's accounts and they're covered. I think we'll be able to cover Thuban on the 8th. After that, may depend on [interview results] tomorrow."

Music practice
   The ensemble continues to practice on Tuesday nights, 7 PM SLT. They're "still learning the ins and outs of our instruments" so this is a good time for potential musicians to join in.  

   Today at 2, we'll be doing a Gather in the '3500' skybox.
   If anyone has any plotline or story ideas they would like to see developed for RP - please let us know. "Us" includes Dutch, Una, ardrhys, Martin, and Colin at the moment.


   Vee: "We're going to be draining Novi's accounts in the near future, to cover the full sim tiers on the 28th. Once that's done, our reserves are gone... so please keep donating! AND renting!"
   (Two full Regions at US$195/month, plus two homesteads at 125, plus Thuban at 95 comes to around L$185000.)

   Looks as if we'll just do a Gather RP during our usual RP time next Sunday.  

   No news.  

   Starting Point: Harper Hall & Environs
Plan A: Ayla’s shinies and baubles
     Big and gaudy ring found.
     May be a ceremonial ring, similar to Lady Holder’s Ring - but slightly different enough NOT to be.
Plan B: The  murder or successful suicide of Koenig (can defer)


   Vee: " ...still stable, HS tiers due today will be paid. FS tiers on the 28th are looking iffy, though. I'm dealing with an (unrelated) dispute with LL at the moment, when that's sorted we'll be talking to LL about paying late this round. At least 1 FS tier is covered.
   "Meantime, I'm looking into freelance work, which means I may be around even less."

   Vee: "SL15B registrations opened on Friday, with little warning. SLB will be in June. I've already volunteered & applied to teach my RP class.
   "15 is apparently the 'crystal' anniversary, so this year's theme is Crystals. And, when I showed that to Wyn, she had an idea... This is what we put on the exhibitor form: 'Crystal mines. Visitors can explore the maze-like caverns & tunnels of Gianfar Peaks of (the planet) Pern, find and 'mine' crystals of various designs, avoid or make friends with our fire lizards, and possibly experience a short Threadfall on the mountain's peak. Visitors can also learn about the history and future of immersive, storyline roleplay in Second Life.' The usual SLB rules are in place - 32x32 plot, no more than 75m above ground & 10m below water, all connected to the ground unless it's a cloud, etc.." Perhaps we could fit a 3D maze into that space.

Spring Gather
   If anyone decides they'd like to volunteer for taking the blame for the Gather, contact Vee.

   We'll meet at the Rest. We might fight Thread if any dragons & riders show up; we might puzzle over Koenig's disappearance from Healers (escaped? rescued from the Hold-associated people? kidnapped?); we might puzzle over the impressive ring that Ayla dropped in the Rest "yesterday."
   Vee won't be holding an RP class today.


   Vee: "Short term, Novi is still well funded - thanks for that! - so the HS's will be covered - although we may ask LL to let them ride for a week or two, to be sure of covering the fulls."
   Vee won't be around much this week or next, as she looks for freelance work. She'll make sure to keep Sundays free.

Music classes
   ...are going well, practicing with Mikki Miles ensemble instruments. They do a pretty good job of keeping players in sync despite lag.

SF Con sim
   txep'ongokx has started a model based on ideas so far, but we still have a lot of unanswered questions about specs. Perhaps we could make it an Experience so that guests wouldn't have to always being giving exhibits permissions to interact with them. Vee's proposed making the whole Con an Experience.

Spring Gather
   There are five Sundays this month, a good time to get back to our traditional Gather schedule. Market Day would be a good theme for off-the-cuff RP; we could invite visitors to join in if they felt like it.

   Today we'll be dealing with the resumption of Threadfall, and working slowly toward the confrontation with the usurper Veekar who thinks she has a right to be Holder.
RP: 20180408: Gianfar Junction
Starting Point:  Runner’s Rest
    Plan A:
        Threadfall (if without dragons, would be ground crew actions)
    Plan B:
        Commentary on the preparations for a punitive action against CloudShadow Hold
        Holders trying to coerce Fisher Hall into providing transport to CloudShadow expedition

Title: Colin's meeting notes - book 31
Post by: Colin on July 01, 2018, 07:10:54 PM
[Continued in book 32]


   Vee: "now *very* good. banked my first paycheck from the new job on Friday, paid full sim tier Saturday."

Meeting timing for next week
   The new [Dr.] Who is being simulcast on BBC1 & BBCA next Sunday at 1:45 ET, aka 10:45 SLT, so next week's open meeting will convene at 10am, and RP class will be cancelled.

Gather planning
   Discussed the play that Liriel's writing about the landing on our island. Invited Vee to run some on-sim RP classes.

RP: What a Tangle
Plan A: Gather planning RP
    Starting Point: Runner Course, Tyl (212,38,25)
    Go over runner races again
    Talk about play
Plan B (time permitting):  Arriving at the landing at the top of the stairs near Weaver Hall.
    Start @: Kuma (8,148,9)
    Flits generate chaos in Weaver Hall: Flits cause havoc in Weaver Hall, going after shiny shuttles, threads, causing general chaos.


   Vee has landed a job. So the sims are secure again, just in time for the full-sim tier to be due.

Gather planning
   Discussed the runner race course... adding 'hazards' like livestock on the course, adding steeplechase gates. Discussed doing a (very amateur style) play about the founding of Gianfar.
RP - Gather Together to Plan a Gather
Starting point:
Runner Course, Tyl (212,38,25)
THEN Gather Planning Room (and other points, as needed) Kuma (8,112,77)

Plan A:    
        Plan for the gather (again)
            Race courses
            Second Landing Play
Plan B:
        Complain about planning for the gather (again)


   Aren't great, but HS tiers did get paid. Full tiers aren't due until after Vee should know if she has a job.

Gather planning
   Discussed how to run a long event with a very small staff; how to have us playing different parts in different scenes; how to manage runner and dragon races; maybe a Dolphin Day; and so forth. Should have an opening ceremony, as was done in Opening Gather.

   Devoted the RP-planning session and the RP time to Gather planning. Ardrhys and Una will be about a half hour late to today's RP session.


   Short term, remains good. Longer term, stay tuned.

Gather planning
   The dance floor in front of Harpers has been expanded, and many Gather stalls and the like have been erected. We're definitely asking the Hatchies to come raid; cookies and a chance to play with flamethrowers should do it. The Companions (from the "Firefly" TV series and the "Serenity" movie) are interested. We surely want to invite Isle of Wyrms. Could we set up tours of our sites, either a general tour or separate tours for each region? Vee will discuss inviting NCI folks; they might put up an info booth. And of course, Pandora... ikran/dragon races?  

   Gather Planning 1
Starting Point:  Runner's Rest
   Plan:  Meet at the Rest - then walk over to the gather area and then go into the Hold for a planning session. What would your character be wanting to do / how would they be contributing to a meeting held at the Hold, for planning a Gather?


   Short-term, Full-sim tiers were paid last week, and Vee paid up all our ads last night. The other 4 sims are covered this month.
   However, Vee's out of work again and can't guarantee the next full-sim tier, due 9/28, unless she picks up some freelance work this week, or gets an offer.

Sci-Fi Con
   Neither Jade nor Vee has heard a word from the Sci-Fi Alliance in ages, and Ari & Senet appear to be AWOL. So, regretfully, we're putting our plans for the con on hold, until we hear more - or don't.

   We're now one of the oldest continuously-open roleplay sims in SL. 10 years open (since Sep 6, 2008), and few sims survive their first year... that deserves celebrating! Let's make Gather preparations part of our rp in the weeks leading up to it. We should look for participation by other groups, especially Isle of Wyrms, our 'parent' group. When? Maybe a long Gather, ending on November 21 with Anne's memorial service.

Rule change tabled till next week

Building on Flit Island
   jAde (txep's new character, a weaver) would like to reside on the island, in one of the existing caves, with minimal furniture and weaving tools. Vee approved that.

Harper area in Weyr
   Vee's agreed that the Harpers can establish a few rooms in the Weyr. Some of us did a quick tour after the OOC meeting.  

   Gianfar Place
    Starting Point: The Weyr (Dining Cavern)
        Plan A: Now that the Harper quarters allocated by the Weyr have been refurbished,  general fall cleaning (haha) and Weyr maintenance required by all can commence.  Looking for repair needed for any damage, or wear/tear the Weyr suffered. Checking condition of tapestries, ramps, storage areas and dragon bathing areas.  
        Plan B: Investigate the general state of the Weyr:
            Look for signs of damage from activities of the dissenters, and the refugees from up north who stayed during the winter.
            Follow up on the old, rabble-rousing songs the Harpers encountered (disloyal songs).


   Short term, still good. All tiers for this month are covered.  

Gianfar 10th anniversary Gather
   It's just about time. Ideas? Pictures of the island in days gone by? Timeline of the major changes? Discussion to be continued... but next week's Labor Day weekend so might have to continue it again.

   "Flitting off to Class"
Starting Point:  Fisher Hall
   Qat gets confusing information from the dolphins of someone out in the water, an island, where is this person? Who are they? She reports what she keeps hearing. Those who are around talk about it, trying to figure it out. Leading up to a more developed story around Firelizard island.


   Finances are still good, HS tiers were paid on schedule, full & Rastaban tiers are covered. Vee will probably miss RP today, and next Saturday and Sunday will miss all but the OOC meeting.

   20180819 - Hazards on the Western Road
Starting Point: Thread Safe # 47
Shaula (24,247,23)
   Plan A: An Investigative Team (on runner-beasts, with no/few wagons) is in trouble. thread-fall imminent and their planned for (thread) safe is blocked!
     1)     The party was traveling to inspect the thread safes along the west coast of the isthmus.
     2)     The entrance is blocked.
   Plan B: There is a cache of contraband, inside.
   Any holders/crafters who want to participate, or any dragon/rider pairs who wish to come to the rescue, are more than welcome.


   Still good; tiers are covered through the end of the month.

   No one's posted replies to the proposed rule (on the Web site in Forum -> Prattle in the Peaks -> Membership -> Proposed new multi-PC rule). Will the rule pass by a vote of 3 to 0, in a group with over 200 members?

   Investigative Reporting:  rp scenario 12 Aug 2018
Starting Point: Thuban at the location of the collapsed safe, which is now Safe #300

>We meet at the "old" safe site which is now site 300
>Apprentices who were sent to other Safe sites have turned in reports
>We discuss what was found at each, namely that some were found to be tampered with.
How, how badly, evidence of by whom?, more investigation needed?, etc.

> Future plan:  This will lead us to ask the Weyr for assistance to do a couple site visits in a 7 day or so.  Does the damage of safes tie in to the Veekar story? How and what do we do about it?  


   Short-term are good. All tiers for the next month are covered. Medium-term, Vee's interviewing again. She'll be unavailable for most of this week.

New member
   Misty (mistymorningsw) just joined us. She's read all the books and will be exploring the island.

Some of the points brought up during the discussion: Alts are separate SL accounts and so are considered to be separate people within this rule. (We don't ask whether a new member is an alt of an existing one.) ... Two players, each with a rider and a dragon character, could be one another's partner (A could ride B at one time, B could ride A at another time); but one's rider couldn't ride one's dragon. ... NPC dragons may NOT fly Thread in RP. ... Watch the Forums for more discussion, and we'll continue this in the next meeting(s).

   Discussed how to have places for RP meetings and the like, vs. private places. It hasn't been clear what Weyr and Hold areas are available. (Del's 'office' now has lockable door curtains; that scripting could be used by anyone as a 'Keep Out' sign.) All admin weyrs - excepting the one marked 'SECRET BIOLAB, KEEP OUT!' - are available for RP, that's one of the conditions weyr admins agree to - IC weyrs that can be used for RP when not otherwise in use.
   20180805 - When is a Safe Safe?
Starting Point: Del’s Office in the Weyr (just off the ground level entrance to the dining cavern)

Plan A: Go over the initial reports of additional thread safe damage.
     Map out the damaged locations.
     Dispatch investigative teams.
     Talk over options/differences/similarities.

Plan B: Threadfall


   Vee: "The Full sim tiers got paid this morning, I just saw the notices."

New rules
   Vee wrote up the new rule Sunday but her Internet went down before she could post it; and she's been buried in RL all week. She planned to get it onto the website this afternoon.
   The first computer program - written by Countess Ada Lovelace for Babbage's Analytical Engine, in around 1843 - has been sold for $150,000.  It was an algorithm for the Engine to compute Bernoulli numbers.

   RP: 20180729 - The Words, Like Butter
Continuing the story line from the last two weeks, we'll have traveled to the Weyr on our way to the Hold, spreading the word about the vandalism to the shelter cave.

Starting Point: Weyr
     Plan A: Reporting to Weyr and Hold Representatives about Thread Safe # 298's apparent vandalism
          A)     Report to higher ups
          B)     Harper investigations/interrogations
     Plan B: Threadfall!


   Vee: "I still have a job - although the commute is still a killer - so we're still here. Upcoming full-sim tiers, due on the 28th, are covered."  Adboard payments are to be done today.

Rule changes
   Tabled till next week.  

Main & RP meeting times
   We decided to change the meeting schedule because we've been accomplishing little before Vee arrived. New schedule for Sunday:
10:00-10:45   RP Planning meeting (moved from Saturday in Harpers' Hall to Sunday in Hold Council Chamber)
10:45-11:30   OOC meeting
12:00-13:00   Vee's RP Basics class
14:00-16:00   RP

RP - continuing last week's episode:
   20180722 - The Trouble with Rubble
Starting Point:Thread Stop # 298 (

Plan A:
          Further debris removal and shoring up of the Thread Stop to return it to usefulness.
Plan B:
          Investigation of the cause.
                    Discovery of an unexplained object.
                    Suspicion and Harper investigation.


   Vee: "I'm very happy to report that all the bills got paid, and the lower HS tier was very nice... Oh, and I got all our ads paid up last night. "

Rule change
   Vee "was thinking of something like this...
An avatar may have up to 3 main characters. One crafter/holder/lower caverns, one rider/candidate, and one dragon. If an avatar has both a crafter and one or both Weyr characters, the Weyr characters may not take part in Craft roleplay - this includes cross-crafting - except with admin approval. A dragon may not pair with the same avatar's rider. Dragons and riders are (still) required to be paired and to undergo training, of course. How does that sound?"
   [Dutch: per AVATAR, not per PERSON, then.]
   "Per LL rules, we don't try to find out who's an alt of whom. If you don't declare your alt to me, we don't know about it. But anyone who is idiot enough to both ride and fly during a Fall deserves all the crashes they'll get. So yes, per avatar. No playing more than 1 character *at the same time* on the same account."
   A long discussion followed, until Vee's ISP crashed her. Upon returning, she continued, "Before I was so rudely interrupted, I was going to say I'll post something on the website for discussion, later today. And if we all agree next week & online, and Wyn buys into it, we can change the rules. If not, we'll keep talking."

   RP: 20180714 - On the Road Again
Starting Point: Thread Stop # 298 (Thuban (131,90,26))

This builds off some of the discussions in last week's RP as well (so, continuity and all that). The beastherd being delivered also dates back to two weeks' ago RP, wherein there was a side discussion with the traders about bringing a herd north.

Plan A:
     Work party is repairing/expanding a Thread Safe Stop, to better serve the needs of Gianfar. As a trader train approaches with more workers, and a herd of beasts destined for the north, a Weyrling (or two) drop in to see what’s going on.
     This is an accidental disturbance.
     Chaos breaks loose, as the beasts stampede at the dragon’s approach.
     We have to gather up all the beasts, and the draybeasts.

Plan B:


   Vee: "All the tiers are paid up to date, and upcoming tiers are covered for the next month. It's so good to be able to say that.
   "I'm probably going to be unavailable midweek for the next few weeks, although I *should* respond to IMs. That's RL. But I should be free at weekends, still."

Weyr policies
   We're trying to reawaken the Weyr. Dutch posed a question: "Do we want to move towards a player being both dragon AND rider, in RP, as opposed to a pair (rider and dragon)? This would be a reaction to lower attendance. It seems to work, for Mish." Vee replied, " I've been thinking about that for a while... I'm ok with players playing both Rider and Dragon, without using alts, as long as they aren't their own dragonpair. I'm even open to allowing people to play Rider, Dragon and/or Craft/Hold, but there'd have to be a restriction, like the Rider can't play in scenes outside the Weyr other than Threadfall, or something. But I'd like to maintain the rule where every dragon applicant must have a rider, and vice versa, and I'd like to maintain Search and Impression, if possible."

   This is kinda planned to accommodate as many Weyr folk, holders AND crafters, as would like to participate.

20180708 - Where in the Weyr.....
   Starting Point: The Weyr - a conference room:  Shaula (88,208,47). This is the same room in which Theman had his 'trial'. It can be reached on foot from the Bowl, so it's easy to assume that visitors could get to it. It is 'above' the blacksmith who's working in the bowl. On the west (Kuma) side of the Bowl, to the right of the waterfall, is a disk of stone; a stair/ramp leads up from there to a ledge; the meeting room is just inside the entrance from that ledge.
   We were thinking about it as a logistics discussion among the Weyr.  Do they have the resources to cover more holds etc.? And recall, not only did Gianfar gain a 6th sim, in SL, but we also expanded/are working on expanding a cot hold, in RP (last week), so we also see this as timely.
   Vee: So, do we want to be Riders & lower caverns folk?
   Dutch: We would like to see not only riders and Weyrfolk, but also holders and crafters - the ornerier the better. Of course, each person can best decide who they want to be, and what position they wish to espouse.
   Vee: Hmm, interesting protocol point... Hold expansion is technically a Hold matter, but if the Weyr wanted to discuss it, then the meeting would be in the Weyr, because the Weyrleader outranks the Holder... but in the event of a dispute, the Conclave would have to be called to decide, and that's the Weyr, Hold and Craft leadership.

Plan A: Expansions of holds and halls - strategize on support for expanded coverage
     Weyr arguments:
          Those FOR and AGAINST hold / cot expansions
          Worries over dwindling resources/queen not rising/etc
     HOLD arguments:
          Worries on how the Weyr will protect Gianfar with limited/reduced resources

Plan B: Threadfall


    Vee: "Are suddenly good, I'm glad to say. All tiers are up to date, all ads paid up. All tiers for this month are covered. But please don't let that stop you paying rent or making donations."

   Our 6th Region is now up!
   Vee: "Today's the last day LL will sell Openspace sims to private owners. And they're dropping the tier on them to US$60 from tomorrow. So Wyn & I agreed to get one and fill in that hole south of Kuma. As we discussed last week. There's a few differences with Rastaban, because it's an OS... I can't deed the land to NoviPeaks. OS's aren't supposed to be used for anything except scenery and channels for light traffic, so they come with 1 parcel owned by the sim owner. So only Estate managers will have power in Rastaban, until I can script something. I did install a Greeter there, and the music stream setter (oh, and fixed the other Greeter systems), and put in the 1000m ceiling. [The fixes will] make sure [visitors] get the warnings, but I need to roll out the new Greeter code with the Experiences & height-related messaging soon. And add the ban/eject/return capability I'm testing on Tyl to Rastaban asap."

   Dutch: The current RP storyline "involves an EXPANSION of a cot-hold in the vast Gianfar interior (near the coast). Details as:

RP: 20180610/17/24/07-02 - This Old Hold
Starting Point: Tannercraft Cothold (NW Tyl) (Tyl (34,185,24))
Plan A:     Working to improve Seaview cot into a larger cot/minor hold
     ) A trader is falsely accused of cheating
     ) Opposition to founding a new (minor) hold/improving a cot?

Plan B:
     ) Spread rumors/lies/wild speculation (as always)
     ) Arguments AGAINST expanding the cot.

This 'stage' was set over the past few weeks (tannercraft cot) - please at least do a fly by - it's quite elaborate. Kudos to Una L for her hard work in rezzing and clicking and arguing with us all!"

   Vee: "Normal Hold service will resume next week, but today I have to help a cake fall down... (you're all invited, btw. 4pm, SL15B Magnificent (100,29,27).
   "I'd just like to thank Jade & Wyn for their work on our SLB exhibit. I was there yesterday, and we had a constant stream of visitors for the half-hour I was there, often bypassing other exhibits to look in ours. Also, Jade's Pandora Home Tree sim's exhibit (mostly built by Pat, I believe) was featured on the SLB home page."

Title: Colin's meeting notes - book 32
Post by: Colin on October 07, 2018, 06:38:35 PM
[Continued in book 33]


   All bills paid to date, but we'll probably miss the HS tier on the 15th. (Good time to feed the donation boxes!) However... Vee may have landed a job. And the company's already volunteered (without being asked) to give her a paycheck before she starts work!

Turnover Gather
   Vee: "Big pat on the back to all of us for a successful Turnover!" We used the craft hall, freshly decorated. Shanna and Liriel provided medieval/Renaissance dance animations. Members and guests had a good time.

3500 rebuilding
   Former Gather islands, at 3500 meters above Shaula, are being rebuilt as a bit of the Southern continent. The new members from the Companions group will have lived there 'forever.' Brittany: "We started laying in prims for hold and covered docks area. Feel free to wander, mind the sim crossings as I've not put in all the supports along the pier as yet. Feel free to IM me or my builder Mist (Melissah Mistwalker)."

   RP today is the initial integration work, for the Companions, joining Gianfar, and is designed to support their backstory.

"Barney Millcrafter, CSI"
Starting Point: Fisher's Hall - the (exterior) Wharf
Kuma (84,242,24)

    Plan A:
        Apprehension of several people, attempting to stow away on a ship, in a sneaky fashion.
            They were asking strange questions, alluding to possible smuggling operations.
            They appear suspicious.

    Plan B:
        Investigation, at Fisher's Hall


   For now, tier is covered through the 15th, maybe through end of month. And all our ads are paid up.

Southern as Companion home
   Our new Companions members needed a place where they could have been living, unnoticed, since before the Second Crossing. They have decided on an inland chunk of Southern near the old Honshu allotment or so. They're thinking of a cliff face Hold facing a lake. The sky islands at 3500m over the east end of the island are to be redeveloped into Southern for them. Anyone who has prims in '3500' should Take them right away, lest they be lost in the rebuilding. The mountains and old shops are scheduled for demo potentially even sometime today, so you might want to hurry.
   Melissa Mistwalker will be back, as maintenance lady of Gianfar.

RP time
   Our European members would like the time to be adjusted to be more "Euro friendly." We discussed either a move forward (½ or full hour) or shortening RP from 120 to 90 min (with possibility of continuing for 120). Dutch asked: "If people would - at their convenience over the next week or two - just send me a notecard with their thoughts on shortening RP, or moving it forward - I'll collate the info and report. Comment via NOTECARD, please - easier to gather data, that way." Vee is open to whatever works best, and can even shift class if necessary.
Altney Court
   We'll call the newly decorated floor of the Hold that unless someone comes up with a more popular name. That floor is two levels below the Conference Chamber, one below the bridge to the Dome.

Turnover Gather
   Dutch's friend Cysop has agreed to DJ for us this afternoon. So:
The Turnover Party
Starting Point: Altney Court, colloquially Downbelow (Kuma (37,129,65))
Starting Time: 14:00 SLT
    Plan A:
        Turnover Party
        Singing and Dancing
In and Out of Character - invite your friends


(Not an official meeting as Vee wasn't present.)

   Presumably unchanged except, one can hope, for the better since last week.

RP - Keeping to the idea of light RP during the holiday season.

RP:   Colin's Convenience
   (name taken from "Kim's Convenience," a TV show about a Korean family running a convenience store)

Starting Point: Kuma (57,129,90) (Lower level of the Hold (2 levels below council chamber) - "Altney Mall")

Plan A:
    Continue populating the lower level 'Altney Shopping Mall' in the Hold

Plan B:
    After-action review on the Great Gianfar Hunt


   Vee: "Tiers up to now are paid, all that's left for this year is the Full sims, due on the 28th. Money remains tight, but I have *two* final interviews, both of which *should* fall this week. So hopefully next week I'll be telling you I have a job and we'll be out of the woods, again."

   Sketched the idea of a semi-OOC party/dance in the Hold for Sun, Jan 6th.  

   Welcomed Sorana & Brittany to the RP Planning meetings. Discussed ways to have a backstory rationalizing a previously unknown group of people making contact with Gianfar.
   RP - "I'm hunting wherries....."
    Starting Point: Landing Point on KUMA
Plan A: Run thru the HUNT
Plan B: (tbd)


   Vee: "Just where they were last week, except I have one, possibly three, maybe four final interviews this week."

Turnover party
   To be scheduled when enough people are around.

RP: Hold for the Holidays
   Starting Point:   Runner Race Course
   Start Time:   2:30  (starting late due to overlap of other events)
   Plan: Evaluate the Runner's Course setup and see what to reconfigure/take/leave
[Gather market area is in the process of being cleaned out.]

The RP Plotters will consider this suggestion:   Given that so many groups are doing things on the weekends during December, we might look at light role-play for the remainder of the month.   That can give us time to enjoy those things and folks will be busier and busier anyway.


   Vee: "Big thanks to all of you who came out for the memorial last week. It meant a lot."
   Liriel: "It was a better memorial than usual. I loved it."
   Dutch: "Thank you for scheduling & organizing it, Vee."

   Vee: "Remain just where they were, meaning this month is covered. I'm talking to 5 or 6 (I lose track) different companies, and have second-stage interviews with some of them this week."

Responses to Threadfall
   Vee's written a script that we can use to appear & disappear covers on the outdoor stalls. She then rewrote it, so it became a pair of scripts. One to be triggered at fall start & end, one to do the work. So now it can be used to close shutters & disappear objects. Then she rewrote it again, added an optional delay... so, for example the Hold shutters should come down at the first alarm, but the Hold main doors should close much closer to the leading edge. Her plan is to release those scripts in the next few days, including instructions for anyone who wants to roll their own effects. Shutters & doors are just regular door scripts with an extra event, and the appear/disappear scripts are even simpler. She's future-proofed the 'alarm' script so she won't have to redo it everywhere when the next version of Thread rolls out. She may still want to replace it, but not for 6 months, and she'll add it to the updaters, like Dragonbreath.

Market stalls in the Hold
   Vee: "2 floors down from here is the original Hold main entrance. Wyn pointed out to me that we'd planned - and even started - to use that as a location for minor crafts. Makes sense that that's where the internal market would be. Wouldn't want those bubbly pies getting cold on the way from the bakers. It's a lot barer than when it was the main entrance, we took out most of the furniture when we moved that up a floor. But it might be where goods and traders first enter the Hold. Minor crafts - weaver, tanner, baker, any lesser indoor craft - Minor used to mean 'any craft without enough members to justify building a Hall' - could set up there."

   A Hold for everything and everything in a hold
Starting Point: Main Landing Site (Dome) Kuma (103,179,83)
Plan A: Explore the hold for places to move the gather market indoors
    explore interest in further sets/stages
    Inventory booths & owners (both IC and OOC)
    clean/partial clean of the gather square (during the week - OOC)
Plan B: Work on the Great Gianfar Hunt
Report on alliance with Whole Brain Health
   (Vee: As a reminder: going back to the start, Gianfar has a policy of sending notices supporting our players' businesses and charities, and cross-posting notices in allied groups - for us, that's usually Wyrms and PHT.)
   Liriel: "It started when Una asked me to ask WBH to come to the story circle last Sunday. I checked with one of their leaders to ask permission, and she suggested that we exchange permissions so that each group could post 'cross group posts' in the other group. I asked Vee and she said she was 'open to it.'  It turns out Tooyaa, the leader I spoke with, has read Anne's books and is enthusiastic about the idea. She'd even like to see Pern things happen on Inspiration Island, where WBH is - like the Companions performing here. So I guess the next thing is for Tooyaa and Vee to talk and find out how to set this up. I'm sure both groups don't give notice privileges to everyone. WBH is not a roleplay group, so they can have anything there, and do. So, for example, we could hold story circles there."


   Still good for another month.

This SL afternoon
   1:30pm SLT in the Weyr Bowl in Shaula: OOC memorial and keening for Anne
   2:00pm SLT in Fishercraft Hall in Kuma: Story circle, visitors welcome

Gather cleanup
   Discussed how much of the Gather area ought to be kept, how much ought to be preserved to be dropped into place for the next Gather. Discussed having slate roofs that would protect the outdoor stalls from Threadfall. Discussed having the people (statues) in the Gather area take cover (become invisible) during a Fall. Started to discuss having some stalls inside the Hold.


   Vee: "Finances continue ok, and I'm interviewing in <counts on fingers> 4 places. but it's Thanksgiving week in the US, so don't expect any major updates this week."  

   Congratulated ourselves that 5 or 6 people (especially Una, Ardrhys, Liriel, and Dutch) put together activities that drew guests from 5 other groups over a 10-day run. Dutch and Jade have Flickr pics of the Companions' performance. Dutch has the Callahan's PERN AND OTHER DRAGONS trivia on a notecard - just ask him if you want it. We're sending Notices of the play (2 pm SLT today; at Tyl (47,46,24)) to the Groups that have participated so far: Breakfast Club, Callahan's Crosstime Saloon, Companions' Guild, Isle of Wyrms, and Pandora Home Tree.  

   Discussed creating things for people to do during the week, possibly related to the weekend's RP. Ardrhys is creating a Hunt which introduces people to about two dozen places around the island.


   Vee: "Finances remain... stable. I'm interviewing, and my final invoices got paid, so we're good through December."

   The opening ceremony was held yesterday afternoon. Today opened with a Breakfast Club gathering on the Kuma dance floor. Big thanks to txep'ongokx (jAde) for setting up that event!
   The "Brave Gyoreth" play will be presented during our usual RP time (2pm SLT) today and next Sunday.
   Tuesday is open, so far. The race courses are available all the time - in Tyl for foot and runner races (with steeplechase jumps now) and high above for dragons.
   A story circle may be held at TBD place(s) on Wednesday the 13th with morning (time TBD) & evening (5:30pm SLT) sessions. Wednesday is designated Dolphin Day, so the circle may be held on a dock; dolphins tell good stories. (Hint to dolphin players!)
   The Companions Guild (from "Firefly") will be here to do a tea ceremony & dragon themed poetry and fan dance on Thursday the 14th at 6-7 pm SLT.
   The Callahan's Crosstime Saloon group will have a PERN (and other dragons) trivia contest on Friday night at 17:30 (5:30pm SLT), probably in one of the unused weyrs. Winning means writing questions and hosting the next week - so there's that down side.
   The Hatchie "raid" will occur on Saturday the 17th at 1pm SLT.
   We could hold a firelizard hatching; those are especially popular with IoW folks and new Gianfar members.  
   The last day of the Gather (with closing party and fireworks) is Tuesday the 20th.

Memorial service
   The annual memorial service for Anne McCaffrey will be held on Nov. 21 as usual.


   Vee is looking for a job again, preferably with a client that pays invoices on time. "I'm already interviewing, and tier is covered - as long as they do pay my outstanding invoices."

Gather planning
   We had visitors whom we'd invited, from the Companions' Guild ("Firefly" TV series and "Serenity" movie). They were quite impressed and are planning to hold a tea ceremony, probably in the Weyr Bowl, on Wednesday the 15th at 6pm SLT.

   Continued planning the play. Will be rehearsing today (Tyl, at the amphitheater in the southwest corner, 2-4pm SLT). We'd love to have an audience!


No "business" meeting, thanks to Grid-wide login issues.

RP plotters did manage to meet:
    "The Play’s The Thing™
    Starting Point:
Plan A: Casting/Rehearsals for Simile’s play
    Overacting optional
        Cast of the Play:
            Captain (Dutch)
            Freeman  (Colin)
            Rider (Una)
            Gyoreth (Mish?)
            Dolphin (Ard)
            Narrator: Jade
    Critique of avatars/etc
    IC conversations, as child actors, etc (help with ideas)

    Plan B: More pre-Gather work
    Walk through of areas


   Vee: "...still good. Tier is set aside & covered for the next month. Paid all our ads last night. But please don't stop making donations or paying rent... ;)"

Rule change proposal
   In summary: the basic idea was that we could all have up to three main characters - one Holder or Crafter, one Rider, and one Dragon - without the need to create alts. (The idea behind having a rider _and_ a dragon was that people might pair up, sometimes one be the rider, sometimes the other.) [And those of us that already have the alts?] This is per account, though - because we can't have a no-undeclared-alts rule, it's unenforceable under TOS - so I suggest this applies per account.
   It was enthusiastically agreed that Ayla has PC status, "given how much character your firelizard has developed over the years". Vee will rewrite the rule so it's clearer, and add a rider so she can explicitly raise a non-human/dragon NPC to PC. Mish's canine would be another candidate.
   "The 'not playing 2 PCs at once' applies only to the same account. If Lady V wants to have a chat with Varth, she can - I can bring both inworld. But Varth couldn't chat with a (hypothetical) drudge character on the Thespian account with Varth."

   Vee: "Good news (I think), I started in on Thread yesterday, so I should be able to supply hatchie flamethrowers & a Fall-schedule-pause button next week - if I can keep it up."

Shoulder pet: mini dragon that flames
   Julianna: "Avalon's gift in the Fantasy Hunt is a really beautifully made golden shoulder dragon that roars and blows fire. AND set anyone who touches her ON FIRE. FREE. Avalon Island (212,156,26). You have to do a little "Mini Quest" but it's simple and entertaining. She comes with a HUD to change the color of the fire / turn the smoke on and off etc. That Hunt runs until the 28th."

Quarter HS available
   Liriel: "I'm thinking of leaving the quarter homestead I rent from Wyn, but I need to find another renter. I always offer to Gianfar first. The rent is the same as the tier, so that's as cheap as you can get it off the mainland. IM me if you're interested, or send a notecard if I'm offilne."

RP: This is like herding felines!

Starting Point:  the amphitheater on the west coast of Tyl - Tyl (51,43,26)

Plan A: Casting/Rehearsals for Simile’s play
    Overacting optional
        Cast of the Play:
            Captain (Dutch)
            Freeman  (Colin)
            Rider (Una)
            Goyreth (Mish?)
            Dolphin (Ard)
        Critique of avatars/etc
        IC conversations, as child actors, etc (help with ideas)

Plan B: Furtherance of plans/plots for the gather
    Advertising posters
    Anything else needed for the stalls?

Cast of Characters:
        Liriel (Simile @ 14:30))
        Shanna (Fisher)
        Theman (Beast)


   Finances are still good. Tiers should be covered for this month. HS's are due tomorrow, and as long as Vee's pay has cleared they'll be paid.

Gather planning
   Gather grounds look good, runner course awaits final check this afternoon, decided not to use the '3500' gather grounds, play's close to alpha test, PHT has moved their Sunday-morning meeting so as to not conflict with our opening.

RP: The Gathering Threads (at 14:00 SLT)

Starting Point:: Council room (

Plan A: Gather Planning (semi IC/OOC)
    Runner course
    Check on the play and required resources. (run thru)
    Dragon course (working order?)
    Other gather areas (check)
    Tour routine routes
    Marketing administrivia (posters for events, timelines, etc)

Plan B: Jade's story - leaving the hall for Firelizard Island


   Vee: "Still good, I've been working almost 2 weeks so far and haven't switched jobs yet :) Second paycheck is due this week sometime. Just in time for HS tiers. Thuban tier was paid on time."

   The runner race course is looking better/readier for gather day, and we have a podium (& condiment) set out in an amphitheater for Vee's RP Basics class. She'll be moving that class here for both Sundays. Advanced classes will only happen if she gets lots of time and/or another willing teacher... neither seems likely. Liriel might be talked into teaching improvisational theater as applied to RP - such as building & maintaining a conversation.

RP team meeting
   Meeting's been running long & taking some time from the general meeting. We'll try starting at 9:30 instead of 10:00 SLT.

Rule changes
   Beginning to get ready to prepare to discuss this, maybe next week. The URL is

RP planning
   RP: 20181007 - Hold Abbey
   Starting Point: Arriving at the landing at the top of the stairs near Weaver Hall.
Kuma (8,148,90)
   Plan A: Gather planning team to meet in the hall, have a tour and a meal and plan for possible inclement weather gather, if needed as an alternative.
   Plan B (if flits are available): Flits cause havoc in Weaver Hall, going after shiny shuttles, threads, causing general chaos.  

Title: Colin's meeting notes - book 33
Post by: Colin on January 27, 2019, 08:35:28 PM

Daylight Saving Time
   Most of the U.S. (except Arizona and Hawaii) is now living an hour earlier, and will continue to do so for 8 months or so. "Standard" time now covers only about 4 months.
   Across "the pond," British Standard Time (BST) will give way to British Summer Time (BST) on March 31st.

   Vee: "Still stable, so far. I *think* we have the tiers on the 15th covered. And last night I paid up all our NCI ads for 3 weeks. WoRPG should already be covered for that time. Reason being, if my references check out, I'll be flying out for training at the end of this week (and if they don't check out, I need new friends! ;) )  I don't know the details yet, but I should be on the clock starting a week tomorrow. I'll be away 'a week', but don't know when the flight back will be. So if we can hang on a few more weeks, we can breathe again.. fire or air."

Reminder: RP (duration time) change -
                Effective 3 March
                90 min duration
                Start time remains 14:00 (2 PM) SLT

Liriel is giving up SL for Lent.
                As a team, and individually, we will miss her greatly over the next few weeks.
                We all also wish her well.
                Both Colin and Dutch have her eMail address, and can relay messages, if you wish to send any.

Callahan's event
   A St Patty’s Day party (It Isn’t Easy Being Green) on Friday at 5:30 PM SLT. All are welcome. There will be a costume contest (come as your favorite green, or even the love child of Kermit & Miss Piggy). Linden prizes. (Callahan's  landing Spot is Conch Republic (142,139,22)

Next week's meeting
   Vee: "If I can't make next week's meeting, I've asked Bit to take it. If she can't, either, we'll skip a week. I'll let you know later this week - or possibly at 9:55 next Sunday."

RP: 20190310 - Just click your heels together
Starting Point: Harper Hall
    Plan A: The Packing up
        We pack up Sorana and Bit for their (triumphant?) return to Bai Long
    Plan B: The Return®
        Sorana and Bit are returned to Bai Long (for store credit)
        One Dragon & Rider (two would be better), and both Southern ladies

        New players (without an active {registered} character) would be considered as extras, being the people who run for others, clean up, etc. Suggested NPC background roles include:
            Apprentices (working under an established in-world Master/Journeyman)
            Healer assistants (working under an established in-world Master/Journeyman)
            Weyrlings (working under an established in-world Dragon Rider)

Follow Up for next week:
    The Great Gianfarian Trade Delegation and Pajama Party®


   Vee: "Tiers are still up to date, although goodness knows how. <grins> We're here for another month. I renewed [almost all of] our ads yesterday."
   She's pursuing one job and just got an offer from a previous interview. "So, in a few weeks, one way or another, I should have an income and the sims will be almost as saved as the daylight."

Bit's cleanup work
   "I removed the 7seas fishing from the Fisher's Hall area and I also managed to shift the 7seas beacon object and the Novi Peaks gear vendor all the way down and over and up to the new Bai Long Covered Docks area.
   "There is a trick here I want to explain. If you have edit rights and the items are not locked.. you can shift other folks' objects across sim lines.. but they pretty much become unmovable again as soon as you put them down there.. at least they do for me. But what you can do, is shift your avatar and relog on the next sim! When you get back in, you can move those objects again. It's tedious as all get out but it can be done. So.. no more fishing on the land level RP zone. Next week.. I'll see if anything can be shifted about those bumper boats, but I don't think I actually have rights to move those so that might take a bit longer." (Vee added, "Might have to ask Soo about that.") "So.. please assist in removing OOC objects and such from the land level RP zone and let's get things corraled over in the Welcome Center or up on 3500 level."

RP start times
    Reminder: RP (duration time) change -
    Start time remains 14:00 (2 PM) SLT
        Effective 3 March
        90 min duration
    After Daylight Saving Times have finished confusing everyone, we'll probably consider moving the start time to 1:30.

Sci-Fi Con & SL16B
   Vee: "Sci-Fi Con just opened for registration. But it's not being run by the same people as before - now it's the Expo folk. Wyn & I have decided to pass on it this year.
   "And I got a notice through the SLB Performance group; seems the Lindens are taking back (at least some) control of the Birthday this year. What this means is anyone's guess, but my guess is, it's likely that application season will be late and short... and we're *definitely* putting in for a booth, when the time comes."  

 RP plan: There's No Place Like Home
    Starting Point: Harper's Hall - Kuma (128, 122, 21)
            LearnMaster Tristin's Office (2nd floor, opposite Ludo's office) (upstairs, 2 rights)
        Plan A (probably not, Sorana's out sick):
            Sorana and Bit start their journey home
            Plan for their departure, @ the end of RP
            Dragon ride, dragon fright, first trip they take tonight
        Plan B:
            We TALK about Sorana and Bit starting their journey home
        Plan C:
            If we have dragons/riders - they can 'search' for Honshu; as we probably won't, we can always have people - either riders TALKING about the search for Honshu, or non-riders reading reports on the search

        New players (without an active {registered} character) would be considered as extras, being the people who run for others, clean up, etc. Suggested NPC background roles include:
            Apprentices (working under an established in-world Master/Journeyman)
            Healer assistants (working under an established in-world Master/Journeyman)
            Weyrlings (working under an established in-world Dragon Rider)


Vee's on the road for a week
   Bit presided, as "Vee has some rl things going on this week and will be traveling... she's going to be on the road until about Fri and won't be in world much at all until she gets home."  

   Vee paid everything up last night, so in the clear for now.. keep those donations coming for the next deadline!

RP plan
   Weather was expected to keep several people away today, so we are going to do some nice low-key transitional RP that fills in our story line.
   Starting Point: Healers Hall.
Plan A: Sick room - packing and prep day, show and tell with foreign instruments/dance?
Plan B: We may hear from the Weyr about whether someone can visualize Southern coordinates.
   Starting at 2pm SLT as usual, potentially ending a little early today depending on how much fun we are having and how many folks end up showing up.
   Present goal is to get Sorana back to Bai Long Hold, to pick up the Lord Holder job that was left vacant by her parents' deaths. That could take a few more RP sessions.


   Vee: "Ads are covered, but I haven't paid them yet. And for now sim tiers are covered. More news as it becomes available."

'3500' status
   Bit: "Just this week, most activity has been non Gianfar oriented... we've been teaching classes up there with great attendance.. I've done several show rehearsals... we have a reprise of our Winter show on Sat the 23rd at Noon.. and I've been asked to host a ballet troupe performance on the same day at 2pm slt. I put out games on the terraces by the bath house up there as well.  Cards Against Humanity and Greedy are out up there.. En Guard and 7seas are in the docks area...
   "I do have a question: when we originally created that platform a few years ago, we did it because we were trying to get the OOC functions off of the land level as that was to be more immersive RP. Now.. what's left undone from that original venture, would be to pull up some of the OOC prims from the land level and allow the platform space to take it's place. Is that still what we are headed towards doing?" The OOC prims include the 7Seas fishing in the Fisher/Dolphin docks, the long-unused bumper boats by the Smithy, and some things in the Council Chamber. Vee and Bit will work on that.

RP classes
   Liriel hasn't gotten an 'improv acting' class together yet. We have at least one potential student for the Gianfar Newcomer classes.

RP times/duration
   Following up from last week:
 - Majority seem to embrace a reduction of RP time from 120 to 90 minutes. If we were really into a RP situation when the 90 minute mark occurred we could agree to carry on to a good stopping point.
 - Retain start time as 14:00 SLT (2 PM SLT).
 - Suggest starting a shorter (90) RP duration on Sunday, 3 March. This is to give people time to accept, adopt and plan for the change in duration.
   Is there any interest in re-opening a 2nd RP date/time? We keep mentioning that anyone who wants to play here is welcome to get some planned spontaneous RP going, especially at "European times." .
    Impromptu RP is always welcome.
    Perhaps we could set up a website page to help coordinate RP at other times (scheduling).
    Else, just post in group chat, if you want to RP and see who shows up.

RP plans for today
   RP: 20190217 - The Days of Our Hold

Starting Point: Healer Hall (recovery room)

    Plan A:
        Start discussions as to how to get the Companions to Southern
        How will the girls return to Bai Long?

    Plan B:
        Does Bit have a relapse at potentially being left behind?
        New players (without an active {registered} character) would be considered as extras, being the people who run for others, clean up, etc.  Suggested NPC background roles include:
            Apprentices (working under an established in-world Master/Journeyman)
            Healer assistants (working under an established in-world Master/Journeyman)
            Weyrlings  (working under an established in-world Dragon Rider)


(This wasn't a full meeting - Vee's PC was down, and chairing a meeting from a tablet was impractical. She handed the virtual gavel to Bit.)

   Holding, but Vee still has no job.

RP times
   Dutch: "There was some more lively discussion, but still no hard and fast decision made. We will continue to bring this up, and give others opportunities to weigh in with their preferences (via notecard, please). Any decision, once approved, should be communicated out well in advance of an actual start of any new schedule."

RP plan
   "Healer Kildare"
Starting Point:
    Healer Hall 'recovery room'
    Kuma (39,33,34)

Plan A:
    Bit is in the Healer Hall, being treated, examined, observed.
Plan B:
    Sorana, mistrustful of healers, insists on quick return to Bai Long.
    Healers disagree, want her to remain in the hall for recovery.
    Someone arrives with news ....

Group gifts
   Are on the Ming Wu patio (Kuma, 3500m level) ready to be taken; there are several more in the new fishing area up in the Covered Docks.

New Player classes
   Bit: "We are still working on organizing the New Player classes again. I think we are at the point of looking at what times we should offer them. I think we should put it and the time for RP discussion smack dab in the meeting agenda for next week and nail it down to something. But I'm likely not going to wait too much longer to set it up. This is the last call for input."
   Liriel is proposing a class on improvisational acting. That's much closer to how we do RP than to D&D-type RP. Maybe she can get a guest teacher from the folks who are RP'ing based on the first chapters of The Silmarilion.


   Vee: "The good news is, tiers are up to date and I renewed our ads last night." In other news, maybe Vee has a new job... stay tuned. And "I'm not going to be around much for the next week, maybe a bit longer. I *will* be here next Sunday, though, ISPs willing."  

New members
   Nakima and Ar (The Sailor), and the way we're growing we could have more applicants before I get this report published.

Founding member
   Suz (Soo Novi) attended the meeting.

   Bit: "This week, I've made some yukata as group gifts and put them out on the back porch of my Ming Wu Theater. There are 10 colors I'll cycle through, and 4 are currently in the Bai Long Covered Docks Fishing area. I finished setup up there, including adding in the other GPOP 7Seas custom and some games that are "smuggler fun". We still need to discuss OOC GPOP play areas up there at some point if anyone wants to give me input. Otherwise.. you know I'll just put something in from my imagination.. fair warning!  I'm likely to add Greedy to the cliff bath house too, cause I like to play it; and I have our Cards Against Humanity to place as well.
   The folks from the Southern continent will have developed a different class structure from Gianfar's. Vee: "So I'm going to make an executive decision. No matter how we handle them IC, OOC the craft admins will be the same. So, we might have a different player playing 'MasterWeaver' in each place, but the same OOC weaver craft admin will oversee both. Individual Crafts might RP 'merging', now or in the future." The Southern folks liked that idea.

Newcomer classes
   Bit and Moira had discussed resuming those classes. Volunteer teachers and students are more than welcome!

RP time planning
   Again, to be discussed next week. We did discuss whether to play this afternoon, despite that American-football game, and decided that finding Bit was more important.

   RP: 20190203 - The Day of the Finely Chopped Rodent

Starting Point: Harper Hall
    Plan A: Searching for Bit -
        Miner team in the tunnels with gangs of canines
        Dragon overflights

    Plan B:
        Finding a bit of Bit
        Taking her to a Healer for Ministrations (not Minestroné)        


   Vee: "I paid all last week's bills yesterday. Coming up this week - tomorrow - is our biggest expense, the full sims, followed by Rastaban. We think we have them covered, for now." Job interviews are continuing. "So, please keep donating and paying rent - technically, all rents are due today."

3500 rebuilding
   Brittany: "Today was a big day for visitors up there as the Firefly Companion's Guild held two events on the 3500 platform. Yesterday was our official start of term and we hold a fire lighting ceremony each time. The Hold and my Theater were both locations for ceremonies, so a lot of outside folks came and toured the build up there. We found a few folks who are interested in joining in the rp, so hopefully those will begin to show up and sign up! We've installed new teleporters continent wide that include all the public Gianfar locations both land and platform."
   Vee: "There was definitely some 'I didn't know there was a Pern sim in SL!' feedback."
   Brittany: "I've put the 7Seas fishing in over Thuban in the Bai Long Hold covered dock area. I will need to test that, so if anyone wants to go fish and tell me what they catch, would love that. There is room on the beach for an OOC dance location, as we had before the rebuild. I would welcome you all to that process and let me know what part of the beach you would like to use and what all you would like to return to the OOC equipment of the space. There is even a changing room near the beach and near the cliff face bath house ;)  If you find any holes or issues with the build, please let me or my building avatar Melissah Mistwalker know. There are rooms in the Hold for settlers and others from outside our Guild... but prim allotment is something folks will have to discuss with Vee directly. Please do go check out the build! I find it best to set draw to 800+ if you can manage it, and to fly a quick rezzing circuit around all the sims once to let your viewer rez it all in"

RP time survey
   Dutch: "Follow up on RP Time discussions: 4 responses - 3 for shortening from 2 hrs to 90 min with same 14:00 SLT start time, 1 for starting 30 min earlier - all (seemingly) with possibility to extend towards the full 2 hrs, if story warrants it. I would still like to see more responses (maybe even *I* should respond to myself) but it seems to be starting a clear trend towards a shorter (planned) RP time. If any more people would like to weigh in, just send me a NC with your vote - for either the same 2 hr window, a shorter window, or an earlier window, or some combination of the (however many options there are). Please, put comments on notecards and send to me. And also, please remember, we have members in Europe and associated environs, they like to sleep as well."

   RP: 20190127 - A Bit of LOST
Starting Point: Harper Hall Classroom - Kuma (208,106,40)
    Plan A:
        Bit was LOST in the tunnels behind the Rest (following up from last week)
        The rescue party is formed. Is Bit:
            Gnawed on by Tunnel Snakes?
            Run off to join the circus?
            Sleeping comfortably on a beach?
    [As Bit has a prior commitment this afternoon, we won't find her in the tunnels - so we'll give up and return to Harpers, and do Plan B.]

    Plan B:
        Further plans on sending a delegation to Honshu, to return Sorana and Bit


   Vee: "Good news, tiers are paid. Bad news, because Wyn & I used some credit, so technically all we did was kick some of the tier down the road... But we can use the same credit for the fulls and Rastaban, so we're here another month. [In longer-term news, jobs are still unsettled.] So please keep donating."  

   Bit: "The OOC platform has undergone quite the transformation! And it's not over yet! We've good bones down and are working on putting in some deco... we'll have to adjust for prim count after that. There are now palms on the beach, but the cliff face and the adjoining sims need finishing and there are a lack of support beams for sim crossings above the sea bed on all sims. Please do bear with us, it's a huuuuuuuge build and it's going to take some time to finish. Our 3 li sim sized mega prims exploded to 798 or so when we hollowed them to allow for the tunnels down into the Hold proper. so the beach got a little adjusting. Over Kuma, my theater is down.. more OOC event space that can be used and there will be shows that happen there. It's looking very pretty with large cherry trees on its little island. We need to see about adjusting teleports to accommodate travel up there again."

   We're continuing to welcome and settle the new folks.
   20190120 - Harper Hall, SVU
Starting Point: Across the river from Fisher Hall
    Plan A:
        Movement of the gang (runner back) towards Harper Hall for:
        Further Companion interrogations
    Plan B:
        Attempted escape & recapture
        Possibly one gets away, lost in the mines

Title: Colin's meeting notes - book 34
Post by: Colin on March 24, 2019, 07:45:22 PM

   "Still good, we're here for at least another month. Paid all our bills last night."

RP: "What the FARDLES?"
Starting Point: Council Chamber: Kuma (57,127,90)
    Plan A:
        Information is received back from both draconic and ground search - no sign of the missing tithe train
        Next steps?.
            Far Cry's holder has been summoned to report to Lady Varian (not arriving, as yet)
            Initial Dragon report: Some submerged wagons found on the north side of Big Island Lake.


   "HS tiers were paid on schedule, ads are up to date, we're still here for the next month."

Bit's news
   Thanks to all who turned out for her graduation party yesterday!

RP: "Gianfar Rescue 1"
Starting Point: Harper Hall Conference Room
    Plan A:
        Further trade negotiations
        Bad news arrives (from Plot B)
    Plan B (semi-NPC):
        GPoP dispatches a rescue team to help the overdue tithe train (which is NOT found)
        The advance scout from the train also disappears from the hold.


   "All tiers up to date, all bills paid or covered, we're here for another month."

   Bit  graduated her Companion training and is having a party: a 6 hour window for dancing and games!  Aug 3rd from 10 am - 4pm slt. Find the Notice, rez the invitation, touch the base for gifts and NC with all the details.

   Ariel is eager to build mesh dragons. Her friend Shaddowstarr has scripting experience. Drusella might be interested in becoming a rider.  

   How can apprentices advance when all our Masters have gone inactive? Vee has been the default Master and will keep approval of advancement requirements in her hands. But Seacraft needs to invent requirements, for Shanna, and Healers needs to dig out the requirements that John adapted from Harpers long ago, for Ris.
   And anyone who wants to be Master of an unMastered craft should talk with Vee. .

RP: "Oy VEY, what a trip!"
Starting Point: The HOLD
    Plan A:
        Tithe train
            Finally arriving late
            Problematic trip
    Plan B:
        Trade negotiations again
            Offers and Counteroffers.
            Exchange rates


RP: "All's fair in trade - as long as you do it my way"
Starting Point: Harper Hall
    Plan A:
        Discussion on missing/late tithe trains
    Plan B:
        Trade negotiations (Southern & Gianfar)


   "... are still good. HS sim tiers are due next week and are covered."

SL16B wrap-up
   Haven't had any applications since the event, which is no surprise.

   Decided to meet at the Weyr, encouraging folks to use alts today just for novelty. We'll see who shows up, and pick an RP thread accordingly.


   "... are still good. Tiers are up to date & covered for the next month, ads are a week in hand."

   ...runs till tomorrow afternoon, get one last look before it vanishes.

RP class cancelled today the teacher will be busy elsewhere.

RP:  Ad hoc day
Starting Point: Runner's Rest
    Plan A: Ad hoc day
    Plan B: Ad hoc day
If you want to develop a secondary character/alt - this would be a good opportunity.
   We assume that most people will be back in action next weekend.


   Vee: "...remain good. Tiers for the next month are covered, renewed our ads last night. And I'm still being paid to work from home ;)"

   Vee: "Today's the last day of the music side of SLB, I'll be working on the 'Festival' stage until 10pm, and then on the 'Spinmasters' stage until midnight, when we shut down. That's after class, of course... The Birthday sims will be up another week.
   "So I won't make RP this week, and whether I do next week depends on my hotel's wifi."

RP: "SLBD16 Weekend 02"
Starting Point:Smithcraft Hall (
    Plan A: Ad hoc RP & chat
    Plan B: Ad hoc Chat & RP
Dutch: "Hopefully next week we can pick up regular RP - if anyone has any storylines they would like to see, please IM me or any other member of the RP Team  (Liriel, Shanna, Una, Sorana, Bit, Colin, Ard)."


   Still good. All tiers & ads are up to date. Vee may miss the meeting on July 7.

   If you remove all scripted items, cut your draw distance as far as you can, cut max avatars 'way down, cut your own complexity and your max complexity ditto, and turn off advanced lighting, you may be able to get in. Using Firestorm's Contact Sets is supposed to help. Try riding pods, using page-down to slow them. Try turning off nametag display, or setting it to display only briefly.
   Don't be shocked at the fact that the Gianfar display is a diner - the event theme turns out to be 1950.

Vee's schedule
   She won't be in Gianfar today, or much this week. She'll be teaching her RP class at SLB today at 3pm. She may miss the meeting on July 7.

RP: "SL16BD Weekend"
Starting Point: Smithcraft Hall Tyl (236,150,74)
    Plan A: Ad hoc RP & chat
    Plan B: Ad hoc Chat & RP
In SLB during what would be our RP time if anyone showed up. you might want to attend Vee's RP class. She'll have the Auditorium stage to herself.


Leaders' status
   Vee is still racing to finish the Gianfar build for SL16B.
   Bit expects to be back around the start of July. Everything went really well with her hospital stay.

RP: Happy Sire's Day
Starting Point: The Runner's Rest
    Plan A: Ad hoc RP & chat
    Plan B: Ad hoc Chat & RP

We're still collecting ideas for things that folks might like to see happening in RP. If you come up with an idea for RP, do chat up Dutch, Colin, Shanna, Sorana, Jade or Bit and we will make it a topic in the RP planning meetings!


Finances, SL16B, 7th Sim  
   No info, Vee presumably busy with SLB and Bit recovering from successful surgery.

RP: "Why are the waves so BUMPY?"

Starting Point: Shipboard (Rastaban) (If we have more than five and Mish, move to Etamin). Anyone who shows up and doesn't have a character yet can be crew.

    Plan A: Sorana is returning to Gianfar aboard a ship Captained by Shanna (her first command, preparatory to being named ship master in her own right)

    Plan B: Thread fall @ Sea (Imagine, due to sim limitations)

Low RP attendance
   How can we get more roleplayers? Are we RP planners doing something wrong? Or not doing something right? Are there delays in getting the Bai Long characters approved? RFL was distracting, but has just ended; SL16B is coming soon. Is it just summer? No ideas were offered.


   Tiers are covered for this month, even without the reductions in the LL announcement. (But please don't stop paying rent!)

Linden price/limit changes
   Note that the changes have been changed - Basic members will still have a limit of 42 groups, no reduction, thanks to residents' protests.
   Vee: "Wyn & I get a small boost from the reduction in grandfathered tiers. Both Kuma and Shaula are grandfathered. Wyn's also going to be hit by the premium hike, but it's the first in 10 years and she'll take advantage of the chance to lock in the current rate for the next year. (I'm concierge, not premium; Wyn's concierge *and* premium.)
   Dutch: "They 'sold out' of the new style Linden homes within about 48 hours of announcing them (until they build more)."
   Vee: "Because they're on 1024m2 lots, not 512m2, and they're on mainland - or linked to it... But what sold out first, and caused a change in plans by LL, was the houseboats."
   Moira: "The second release of houseboats - 709 of them - sold out in 28 minutes."
   Vee: "They stopped building out Bellisseria - the new continent - for regular homes and added a whole new area to the east for more houseboats. Word is, the next tranche will be houseboats, too. Every houseboat comes with a dock, and it looks like - from a quick flyby I did the other day - most houseboat owners have at least one boat, which they can now use to sail to (a small part of) Sansara, or (much longer trip) most of Jeogeot. Kind of odd where they placed Belliseria, put just a few sims further east or west it could have linked up with Sansara's network of channels, but they placed it south of the Linden rental sims - the 6 sims reserved for major events. Which means they can't build a bridge from Sansara to Belliseria, and the Belliseria sailors can't take their boats to anywhere interesting in Sansara. Bet the seaplanes are having a field day, though."

Seventh sim
   Vee: "I believe Wyn intends to move the 'new' sim this week, but I don't think she's picked a name yet."

   Vee: "SL16B is going to be taking up my time and Wyn's - she'll be building, I'll be scripting and training. Lot of behind-the-scenes changes none of you need to worry about, unless you're a serial volunteer for SLB. And, to make things more interesting, I now expect to be travelling when SLB is on, in 3 weeks."

   Resuming "planned" RP in the now-standard time slot, 13:30-15:00 Sundays.
   Today's theme: Harper Hall: CSI
Starting Point: The Weyr
    Plan A: Healer supplies have gone missing. Harpers to investigate.
    Plan B: Watching for reports of delayed tithe trains... and for reports of things stolen from them, or from traders' trains... and if so, what was stolen


   Bit: "Vee is still employed and tier is paid, but keep those donations a rollin' in."

   Bit: "Gianfar might not have a booth at Sci-Fi con, but Bai Long Companion House does and there is a firelizard fair there." = SFC Scifi Stories (132,133,23)

Book club visit
   Liriel: "The tinies seemed to enjoy the visit, especially the flamethrowers. They particularly wanted to see the hatching sands."  

   No plans, this being the last weekend of the planned 'month off' plus a holiday weekend.


   "Still good, all bills up to date, and I haven't been fired yet, so we're safe for the next month at least."

7th Sim
   Waiting for Wyn to decide on the new name.

   "Quick note on SL16B, applications for everything except Performers (I think) are closed now, we're waiting to hear if we got a booth. SL16B sims are up and should be opening to the first non-Moles tomorrow. I happen to know my RP class will be Sun June 23rd at 3pm."

Vee's schedule
   "I may not be here next Sunday. Depends on flights, I'll be travelling next week (if all goes well) and returning at the weekend.  I'll have internet access while I'm away."

RP: "Are you reading that?"
   Starting Point: Kuma Landing Point (Welcome Center)
   The Raglan Shire Short Story Book Club is invited down to interact with us during RP Time today. They would like to be shown around - anyweyr.
   Otherwise, no set routine,
Welcome Center
Council room so we can tell them where we meet
Harper Hall
Mines for a craft
Weyrever we are at the time. - for flamers and threadfall
   IM Colin, Liriel or Ardhys if you come late


   Nothing new, which is good news.

   Liriel happened to overhear a book-club group discussing "The Girl Who Heard Dragons." Serendipity wins again! The folks were interested in seeing our bit of Pern. Because they're Tinies they'd be very OOC, and as we're not planning organized RP in May it seemed convenient to invite them to visit during RP time next Sunday. Several of us will be there to be hosts, guides, and enthusiasts; of course any GPoP member would be welcome. I hope we'll have at least one dragon.


   ...remain good, we'll be here for the next month, all tiers are covered. End of financial report.  

   There are no plans for planned RP in May, because of the planned absence of several of the players. But who knows what unplanned RP threads might appear?


   Vee: ".. still good, I still have a job :) All tiers through May are covered at present, and the fees for moving/renaming Wyn's spare sim. I need to go pay our ads after this meeting. But don't let that stop you paying rents or anything..."  

   Vee: "After my stint last year as a Stage Manager, I've been asked to be a Stage Coordinator this year. Which should be fun, except for anyone unlucky enough to be assigned to my team. :) I've also heard that the Moles will be running security directly. No news on our exhibit application yet." [The Moles are] "...LL's volunteer builders, aka the Department of Public Works. All have the surname 'Mole'. This is LL's first time running the whole Birthday in 7 years, and the Moles didn't exist back when M Linden tried to cancel it and the residents took over. So it's a learning experience." [Comment: "always thought it was done by magic and the exhibitors."] "As a long-time Exhibitor Assistant, I'm quite glad you thought that ;) One of the fun parts of volunteering for SLB is watching the whole thing come together and seeing how we hide all the problems and issues from the guests..."

RP: 20190428 - The ties which loosen those who are bound
    MAY will be an AD HOC RP month - no formal plans due to scheduled absences.
    Reminder, RP START time now @ 13:30, not 14:00 SLT.
    Starting Point: Runner's Rest
        Plan A: Ad hoc
        Plan B: Multiply hoc


   "... are good. We're here for the next few months, I hope. All tiers for the next month are covered."

SL16B plans
   "Just 2 things to note. My only news about this year's Birthday is coming through the Performance group - which runs the music stages - and they've had a number of changes; no more separate teams by stages, and the SLB DJ stages won't open until after the Lab-run SL Music Festival ends, a few days into the Birthday. And the second thing is our build - which is still in the 'Wyn's Imagination' stage. I think we've figured out a way to pull it off - *if* we can find a suitably low-LI 50's diner/drive-through that will fit in a 32x32 parcel. So please, keep your eyes peeled."

New land
   "Not east or west of the Fulls, Kuma & Shaula, because we want to reserve that row for future Fulls, for a longer Fall. But that's all. South or west of Rastaban may be limited by the map, there's another sim out that way and Wyn'd need the owner's permission to place a sim within 2 sims of another owner's sim. So if there's no consensus in 2 weeks time, Wyn and I (mostly Wyn) will pick a location and get the sim moved - and named. And announce how the terraforming 'competition' will work... your chance to literally shape a part of Gianfar ;) (Without having to buy a sim first!)"

RP: 20190414 - Forget To Name This
    Follow up from last time:
        Reminder, RP START time is now @ 13:30, not 14:00 SLT.

    Vee & Wyn announced a SEVENTH SIM!
        Where would we like it placed? (not E/W of Kuma/Shaula)
            North or East of Tyl?
            South or East of Thuban?

Starting Point: The Weyr Bowl

    Plan A:
        Renewed tales of minor things going wrong
        Slides and potholes on the roads
        Fouled irrigation canals

    Plan B:
        Tithe train is delayed, coming down from up north (west) way.
        Slowly increasing number of transients coming down into the main Hold Area (southern part of the island)


    New players (without an active {registered} character) would be considered as extras, being the people who run for others, clean up, etc. Suggested NPC background roles include:
        Apprentices (working under an established in-world Master/Journeyman)
        Healer assistants (working under an established in-world Master/Journeyman)
        Weyrlings (working under an established in-world Dragon Rider)


   Bit: "Vee has a job and we are paid up, but keep those sim donations coming please!"

Pern Day Party 'Till You Drop Marathon
   Bit: "Today we celebrate Pern Day commemorating Anne's birthday up by the Southern Cliffs Bath House.. so pack suits and beach wear and bring your friends.. it's OOC and there is no dress code but the sim's Maturity rating."

   Remember that next week, and continuing forever or until we change it, RP runs from 13:30-15:00 (1:30-3:00pm) SLT. We've been chatting about upcoming plot lines... the Return of Veekar is imminent.

Shortest meeting ever
   11:07 to 11:16

    Vee: "Applications are open - and we've applied! This year is 'sweet sixteen', and LL - who're taking charge of the Birthday again - have asked for a 50's theme. Therefore... " [see Group Notice]


   Vee: "I'm still employed, payday is this coming week, so, finances are good."

RP start times
   Dutch: "Four out of four people are good with moving the time earlier, split 50-50 as to 30 min or 60 min earlier."
   Vee: "And we are unanimous in that... Then let's move it half an hour earlier. If that works, we can see about moving it another half hour earlier. And we'll start this week, since we're doing Gather prep instead of RP so anyone arriving late will still be put to work."

RP now at 13:30 SLT
   NO RP Today - assist Bit in setting up for Pern Day in the "upstairs" Gather Grounds: Shaula (146,132,3531).

Next week: Pern Day
   Celebrating Anne’s birthday, 12:00-20:00, with four DJs


   Vee: "Are surprisingly good. Sim tiers are up to date, by a miracle or three. I paid up all our ads last night. And I've been employed for a week now! So, tiers are covered for the next month. We're still here." And she may now be around during the weeks.  

RP times
   Follow up from last week - reminder - send Dutch a notecard with your thoughts on changing the RP START time to 13:30 or 13:00 SLT - decision to be made @ next week’s meeting. Don't let that stop you RPing at other times!

Pern Day
   April 1st is also the day after our friends on the east side of the pond are hit with Daylight Saving Time. So we'll celebrate Pern Day on the 7th.
   It seems that we'll be able to get some DJ's for a party (we've already recruited a couple)... and our Pandoran friends... and possibly some Companions... and other dragon groups... a hatchie raid from Isle of Wyrms?... lasting 6 hours minimum, maybe noon to at least 6, maybe 8 SLT.
   We'll use the cliff-face baths in Bai Long; the view up there is great...and there's lots of room.

   Vee: "If you've been paying attention, you'll have seen the Lindens put out two notices (so far) on their blogs. So we have dates - but no timetable, yet, or any idea how this LL-run SLB will differ from the Resident-run ones. All I can say is, we're not going to miss it if I can help it. ;)"

RP for today: "A Bit of Bai Long"
Starting Point: The Weyr Bowl
   Bit is going in as Sorana's rep while Sorana settles in as Lady Holder. (And while Sorana's player deals with First Life.)
    Plan A: arrive back (at the weyr), and unload Bit, and then 'discuss' setting up a trade delegation, etc.
    Plan B: And that can always be interrupted by news of the latest disaster, etc.

Title: Colin's meeting notes - book 35
Post by: Colin on August 18, 2019, 06:24:36 PM

An unofficial meeting, as Vee was absent.

Place names
    Dutch hasn't received any suggestions for names for the former Bai Long Hold, nor for other builds up in the sky. Mailbox is still open, folks! Please send him whatever names you would like to see - at the very least, we'll add them to the 'Island Locations' sheet. We don't need to rename anything right away, might want to just assign names temporarily to fit RP themes, but it'd be nice to have "real" names to put into the teleporters. State maps would be a good place to look for strange but plausible names that we could adapt.

    We're dropping the thread that depended on Bit, so we again have no one to play evil Veekar, but the missing-tithe-train thread can be rescued. And we want to try to reawaken interest in Weyr RP so we'll be playing there today.
    "Weyr in the World"
    Starting Point: The Weyr (Storage Caverns) Shaula (137,228,34)
Plan A:
    The remnants of the tithe train finally make it to the Weyr from West Point Sea Hold.
Crafters report to the Dragon Riders what they think happened to the train, based on their investigations. (Chance for creative writing here!)
 - Why or how was it mis-routed?
 - What happened to the people?
 - What caused their illnesses?
 - Are the remaining goods in the train safe?
Plan B:
    Weyr visitors go a’ wandering about the Weyr - what’s behind that curtain? (Remember that closed curtains mark private areas; it might be OK to peek in but you shouldn't go in.)


   Tiers are covered. Vee's move is complete (except for unpacking). And she has job interviews coming up.  

Anne's memorial
   The 21st is a Thursday this year, the week before Thanksgiving. We'll try doing the event on both the Thursday and the following Saturday - the day itself and the day most people can make it. And one EU and one US time on each day.

   This was discussed in the RP committee. We can't keep calling the place Bai Long, since that RP is effectively dead. So what should we call it, and any suggestions on how to use it?
   It could be nice to set it up (some part of it) as a permanent hold, maybe name it. maybe we interact with those "folks".
   By sticking an Experience teleport in, we could re-use the tunnels as part of the hold, the Weyr, the mines, whatever.
    It seems like it would be good to keep some of it as a permanent hold. We used to talk about covert trips to Southern - usually by the riders - so would some island of Southern make sense? We can probably add an island or two on the other sims, too, if that helps.
   So, name suggestions - for islands and/or the 3500 hold - for next week.

A Weyr day
   Ludo had an idea to have a day of Weyr RP and talk about how we can get the Weyr moving again. Since each avatar can have a craft character, a Weyr rider, and a Weyr dragon, she thought we might make some Weyr characters and try them out. Our hope is to get former dragons and riders to come back, but to do that maybe some active characters need to be riders and dragons for a while. Spoke about using two avatars in a single RP - allowed - just not a single avatar switching between two NPCs.
   So, Weyr day next week. Don't have to play dragon or rider - Lower Caverns needs people, too. There might be eggs on the Hatching Sand... not only a conversation starter, might be good for the memorial, too. There could be a real hatching later on, if we get some pairs set up... but having them there next week might be a good start (and maybe lead some to think about becoming a pair?)

RP: "Halloween Hold, Redux"
Starting Point: Shaula (190,53,3433)  
    Plan A:
        One more opportunity for all to pass thru the Halloween Hold - this should give all a chance to experience the event, as last week SL had major logon issues. And some of us were in transit.
    Plan B:
        De-decorations, as needed in '3500' (OOC)


   Presumably OK, per Vee's statement last week.

SL service outage NOW and Tuesday
   Service outage now: as of 11:48 SLT, "During this time, some Second Life services may be unavailable including, but not limited to: logging in, and object rezzing. Please refrain from rezzing in-world, in addition to transacting in-world, on the Marketplace, or on the Lindex during this time." [Can't change outfits either.]
   Scheduled inventory maintenance    Tuesday - watch for notices.

   Celebrating the non-Pernese holiday this afternoon, see below.  

RP: ¡ Happy Halloween !
   Starting Point:
Plan A:
    Walk thru the GPoP Halloween Hold (find daylight)
Plan B:
    Once you find daylight, turn right and go up to the plaza, for Halloween mingling/socializing
    Semi IC/OOC


   Vee: "This should be a fairly quick meeting, so I'll dip straight into Finances, say we're still stable, all bills paid, here for another month. And announce that I won't be here next weekend. I'll be relocating, and apparently it's really difficult to be here and be driving a truck down the interstate at the same time...  I'll be back in place by Halloween, though."

Vee's schedule
   She's moving; won't be here next Sunday, and likely offline thru the following Wednesday.

Shanna's schedule
   She won't be here next Sunday.

Reviving the Weyr
   Ludo: "We now allow people to have a dragon and a rider in addition to a Hold or Craft character. So I thought if we really want to revive the Weyr maybe the regulars could make up dragon and rider characters and pair off with each other. For example, I might want to play a dragon more than I want to play a rider.  So I could find person A who wants to play a rider and is here often. Then I could also play a rider and impress to person B's dragon. So if A is here I'm a dragon, if B is here I'm a rider. Now some of the regulars might not want to play a dragon or a rider; they could make Weyr characters or find excuses to be in or near the Weyr. That's as far as we got. There's lots to discuss about that idea."
   Vee: "We might set a day in November - before the Memorial - to be a Weyr RP day, if enough people are interested."
   Ludo: "We'll need to talk about how to structure that."
   Vee: "Something to discuss next RP committee, while I'm away."
   Ludo: "Come to RP meeting, if you can. We can post the results of our discussion."  
   Vee: "And feel free to talk about it anytime <smiles>"

Starting Point: 3500 - @ Bai Long (caverns)
    Plan A: HALLOWEEN PREP activities
    Plan B: HALLOWEEN PREP activities
        Send Vee's 'Please Do' list, by end of RP
        All GPoP folks are invited to add spooky things, ideally somewhat medieval looking, to put in rooms in Bai Long. Every member of GPoP is invited to put some of their own stamp of decorations into the Bai Long caverns.
   Vee: "In case anyone's worried about land impact, Kuma has 3500 li free now, and Thread reserves 1000 of that. So, lots of room."
   Colin: "We're thinking of setting a starting point deep inside that Hold, so that folks can find their way out. It's not a maze, honest!"
   Vee: "If we want to put in links, point to point teleports where you walk into a door in one place and emerge somewhere else... we can do that, too."


   Vee: "Short term, still good. Tiers are being paid on time, ads too.
   " I'm also preparing to replace anything I deem critical that's owned by Bit or her alts. I keep holding off on the chance that I can talk to her and not have to worry about her coming through with orders to return everything she owns - and Mist owns a chunk of Gianfar. that ought to have been deeded to group, quite apart from Bai Long. Replacement costs of just items I deem essential will run to around L$4-5,000. Leaving out things like rugs or other decor. But we can afford it.
   "Longer term... my current contract is ending. Company is reducing its US IT projects and transitioning fulltime staff to replace the contractors, of whom I'm one. I'm planning to jump ship early, as i don't want to be entering the market next month, when companies stop hiring. Also, I made a nice pile of cash this contract, and I can afford it - and I'm already in interviews. I could apply for a permanent role, but that would mean moving to somewhere around Mississippi or Indiana, and not a major city... that's if they took me.  I'm also going to be relocating in about 9-10 days. Exact date & time TBD. Moving somewhere warmer. Anyway, I will be here for all foreseeable meetings, but I'll be missing for a few days after the next one. (Could do the move in a day, decided to be more relaxed about it and visit some old haunts en route.)"

   Colin: "Found references to wearing "clouts" for swimming... that'd be breechclouts/loincloths. No references to female swimwear in "Dragonriders of Pern". But Jaxom does *notice* Sharra as she helps him scrub Ruth. And near the end of "White Dragon" Robinton just tosses his clothes away and dives into the ocean."  
   Vee: "Ok, so maybe loincloths/clouts, with breast bands for women."

   RP planning group's working on something, maybe a mystery maze scenario. Stay tuned...

RP: "We work for our daily bread"
Starting Point: West Point Sea Hold Shaula (205,66,3504)
    Plan A:
        Continue on with the medical aspects of the tithe train being found
    Plan B:
        Recovery of the remnants of the tithe train @ West Point


   "Still good, but clouds on the horizon. I have a feeling contractors like me - remote workers - may be on the chopping block soon. But we're good for another couple of months at least. Also, I may be away next Sunday. Thinking of moving to another (warmer & cheaper) state - and if I do still have a job, that means I'll move over a weekend. (If I don't, weekdays are easier.)"

   Perhaps a tunnel search with creepy things and maybe a tunnel snake. More discussion next week.

RP: "Forget the frying pan - Out of the thread safe and into the thread"
Starting Point: West Point Sea Hold - Shaula (205,66,3504)
    Plan A:
        The long missing tithe train is FOUND!
    Plan B:
        All the people on the train are dead or ill from a mysterious illness.
        Naturally, we are totally un-equipped to handle that.

Dutch: "We've retconn'd a bit, (no pun intended) due to the southern issue. And, as always, should anyone have any storyline ideas they would like to pursue, please do not hesitate to bring it to the attention of the RP Team (myself, Colin, Shanna, Vee, etc)."


   Bit has left us, without a word, and taking l$13,000 of Ming Wu replacement parts with her. My guess is, she was ordered to do so, so I'm temporarily banning her & her alts from Gianfar while we figure out what prims she owns, and take steps to return or replace them. I can't risk her being ordered to return and do damage. Sorana's decided to leave us also, understandably - she's caught in the middle here. So this ends, for now, the Southern storylines, and freezes the Veekar storylines while we figure out how to rewrite them.

   Ad hoc, digesting the news and maybe figuring out what's left of our storyline.
    Starting Point: Runner's Rest - Kuma (209,90,23)
    Plan A: Ad hoc discussion


   "...still good. Bills are up to date. We're here for another month."

RP: "More ad hockity"
Location: Kuma, meeting room one floor below Council Chamber - Kuma (10, 111, 76).
Plan A: ad hoc conversation as most players will probably be absent.
Plan B: see Plan A.


Very short meeting today.

   "Remain good. All bills paid on time, all tiers are up to date, we're here for another month."

RP: "Do something, or not"
Starting point: Runners' Rest - Kuma (209,90,23)
Plan A: ad hoc chat, as many folks will be absent
Plan B: ditto


   Vee: "... remain good, all bills being paid on time, Novi is sitting on a nice reserve, all ads up to date."

   Dutch: "The RP Team put our heads together, and came up with about 5 different ideas for a Halloween RP. These will be developed over the next few weeks, etc. However, in the meantime - if anyone else has a good idea for a Halloween Special, please contact myself, Colin, Ludo, Bit or Sorana. This is YOUR Halloween, as much as it is ours."

RP: Just Deserts
Starting Point:: The HOLD's Main Dining Cavern (after a meal)
    Plan A:
        A report about the missing tithe train is received
        Far Cry's Holder to report on happenings in her Hold
    Plan B:
        Sorana continues to be a hard-ass about trade...


   Vee: "Still good. We're here for another month, full sim tiers were paid on time. And I paid all our ads last night."

Vee's schedule
   Have flight, will travel. I'll be offline most of tomorrow and on Wednesday evening.

   Vee: "We should start thinking if we want to do anything for Halloween... I'm likely to be around only intermittently on Sundays this month, and I know others are the same, and experience suggests we shouldn't leave planning until the actual month of an event."

RP: "No Hoc like an added hoc"
Starting Point: Runner's Rest
    Plan A: GPoP Pub Crawl (aka Ad Hoc)
    Plan B: Discuss events which have happened/try to make sense of them (aka Ad Hoc)
    What we KNOW:
        At the orchard (Napple Cot?)
            HNO3 tanks sabotaged.
            holder not present.
            suspect something is amiss.
            have sent for guards and smiths, from the hold to further investigate/guard the site.
            harvest left out on the open ground for wild beasts to eat.
        Did NOT do the Holder reaction to Far Cry’s silence.
        Lady Varian had recalled the holder from Far Cry (20190729), to report on why they didn't aid (or report on) the train.
            That still needs to be done.
            Second call for Far Cry holder went out 20190811
        (Colin) Idea: The train is missing because it never got to where we've looked. It arrived at a smallhold which had been taken over by (or defected to) Veekar... thus the beasts & wagons could be hidden... and all reports we've received could have been false.
        The Scout from the train has disappeared.
            The two guards set to guard him were found after several days.
            Guards were drugged/found in a storage cupboard.
            Did someone ‘renew' their drugs?
        There are NO ITEMS from the train which made it in. Nothing to be found.
        After fall @ GPoP Hold, HN03 tanks were empty/damaged/missing, damage to a pasture.
        Teela (played by Sorana) was the one stealing medical supplies.
            Is Teela is a spy?
            A saboteur?
            Or does she have some other ulterior motive?
        WHAT (REALLY) delayed tithe trains? Search reports received:
            One: Wagons found in Big Island lake - investigating
            Two: A FALSE FLAG Report (Train reported to be headed east from Far Cry to Neill’s Harbor or Sea Cry.)
            Three: Wagons in the lake are all OLD and worn out  (However, on investigation, they were all old, wrecked units, not modern strong wagons.) (old wagons, loaded with rocks, underwater a short time)
            Four: Roads in good condition/no sign of slides
            Five: Note from a minor hold (Far Cry? Other?) where the signature does NOT match known signatures. (Obvious false)
            Six: Shortages report from other holds
            Seven: Report on vanished apprentice and guards
            Eight: Downed fences near high paddock - herd-beasts loose
            Nine: Injuries on the search for the train (non-specific as to number and type)
            Ten: Shortages reports from the Weyr

Dutch's schedule
   He'll be on vacation on the 15th, 22nd, and maybe 29th. So let's all cogitate over the next week for Halloween ideas and circle back next week.


   "...still ok, here for another month, etc..."

Bai Long news
   Vee: "Bit and Sorana have left the Companion's Guild, so there's no more Companion association between our 3500 builds and the Guild. Discussions about why they left are *not* suitable topics for GPoP chat or meetings. Companion-related material has been removed from the build. Gianfar loses nothing, no backstory revisions."
   Sorana: "We are still there on Southern and we are still Bai Long and still Oriental themed."
   Vee: "Gianfar will be sponsoring Ming Wu, going forward. That's the theatre."
   Bit: "We'll be doing some more over there - and IC'ly, Ming Wu will end up our set for Southern Harper Hall. And Ming Wu needs performers! So if you like what you see.. please do poke me if you want to come play. We need everything.. front and back of the house."

RP: "Salient Points - Agenothree and A Holder Reacts"
Starting Point: The Orchard in Tyl (Tyl (61,52,24))
    Plan A: Investigate why the Agenothree tanks seems to be damaged/missing during a recent threadfall, causing damage.
    Plan B: Lady Varian (or her Minion) reacts as to why Far Cry's Holder STILL hasn't appeared for an interview
    Plan C: Wing It


   "still good, all tiers covered, HS tiers paid on time. Need to pay our ad bills today."

RP: "Fardles, again"
Starting Point: The HOLD Council Chamber
    Plan A: Sorana demanding more in return for trade, as trains seem to get lost in the north
    Plan B: Continued silence from Far Cry.
               No response to drum or flit messages,.
               Drugged guards are interviewed after recovery (reports or generic  - angry, but know very little)
               Further reaction/plans based on last week's reports
               Last week's reported injuries

Title: Colin's meeting notes - book 36
Post by: Colin on November 17, 2019, 08:16:37 PM

   Vee: "Still hanging on. All bills paid or covered. I didn't get either job I interviewed for. But, more jobs in the pipeline, although it'll be a week or two before I get to the final phase with any of them."

   Vee: "I did roll out a few changes last week, but the big change to Thread got delayed when it got interrupted by an interview and I didn't get back to it. Hopefully this week. Followed, possibly, by an update to Dragonflight - the straps scripts. Fall may go offline for a day or two in Kuma while I'm experimenting."

Cut/copy/paste & find/replace
   The inventor of cut/copy/paste and find/replace has died.

Pern Day
   April 1, Anne's birthday, falls on a Wednesday this year, so we'll celebrate in two parts: that day, and the following weekend. On the 1st we might have a party just for us. or a Threadfall.
   Vee: "At the weekend, though, I'd ideally like to be showing off new dragons and new Threadfall, and try to recruit. As well as having a big party, and getting Wyrms involved. Something much longer, that visitors could dip into."
   Dutch: "We could even look to extend the normal RP time, on the Sunday.... Maybe add a half hour or an hour to the FRONT of RP time? [How about] if we 'skip' the general meeting that week? just go from general meet time to end of RP time? that gives us 10:45 to 15:30, SLT. "
   Vee: "We can discuss it next week, I like that idea, if enough of us can be around in any given hour to make that work - I'm sure I can be."

RP: "Wake Me Up Before You Go KLAH"
    Starting Point: Thuban (208, 72, 23)
        Plan A:
            Harvesting KLAH Bark, to replenish severely depleted stores, after the winter. Bring a basket if you have one.


   Still holding on. Tiers are covered for the next few weeks. I just had 2 more 'final' interviews, keeping fingers crossed.

Dragon Rider Poster
   Shanna: "My alt knows Abathyr the owner of Cog & Fleur who sell Victorian and Fantasy clothes. She is a Pern fan and did intend her new costumes for that, but hadn't heard of Gianfar. She said she'd come and take a look. This [poster on the Council table is for sale for the traditional L$0] is a set that comes in different colors.  Sadly we have no customers for her, but I'll keep in touch." [She'll suggest doing a male costume.]
   Inworld store: Heart Song (190,84,39)
   Marketplace URL:✓&search[category_id]=&search[maturity_level]=GMA&search[keywords]=
   zai: "coughed up to join the group cos the kimono mania prize is lovely"

   Vee: "Subject to RL, I hope to roll out a bunch of changes to Threadfall, starting tomorrow. Some of the changes will be updates to Dragonflight and maybe Dragonfire - not decided on that yet! - so dragons may have to get new saddles and new Dragonbreath; I thought now would be a good time since we don't have many active dragons. *But* if one of last week's interviews offers me a job this week, then one side-effect will likely be me dropping out of SL for 4 or 5 days."

RP: "The Hunt for Ard's Eggs"
    Dutch: "RP today, is a return to the hunt Ardhys created for us a while back....  if you do not get a chance to join us later today, this is an event anyone can do, at any time, on their own, or in groups... and, of course, thank you to Ardhys, for putting so much hard work into this hunt."
    Starting Point: Kuma Landing Point (the dome) (
        Plan A: Follow Ard's excellent egg hunt, to reacquaint with things Gianfar.


   Vee: "[T]iers are covered for this month, I'm in final process with 2 companies - one could make a decision tomorrow, the other wants to interview me later this week."

Swim HUD
   For years we'd been wishing for something that'd let people swim anywhere (not just within range of a poseball), and Ludova found one. It works only in Linden waters - the water in the Shaula bathing cavern may be a prim. It's available for only L$1 at✓&search[category_id]=&search[maturity_level]=G&search[keywords]=Swim+HUD+

RP: "WILL the 'reckless' ever become 'reckful'?"
    Starting Point:
        Weyr Dining Hall
        Shaula (121,227,41)
    Plan A:
            Nola enters carrying full trays. Ludova is missing.
            EXACTLY what Del feared.
            The hunt for Ludova, is on.
[Chronicler's note: 'reckful' is a real word and does mean the opposite of 'reckless'.]

Happy palindrome date!

   Vee: "Finances, no change except I had some good interviews last week and no-one's turned me down yet... however, a 'final' interview that was supposed to be scheduled this week has gone quiet on me. Other than that, I've been working on Thread scripting this week, and on dragonflight, and you should - hopefully - see the results this coming week."

RP: "How Do You Solve a Problem Like Ludova?"
    Starting Point: Weyr baths -
        Plan A:
            Why are there food plates, utensils & a Klah mug in the baths? We normally don't eat there.
            The continuing mysteries that are, Ludova.
            The continuing search for Ludova.
            Why does Nola defend Ludova so fiercely?


   Vee: "I have yet another final interview next week, and an initial interview tomorrow for a job that could finish the process & make a decision by Friday. In the meantime, I've tapped an income stream I'd forgotten about, all bills are up to date, and the sims should be safe for another month."

RP: "Domestic Un-bliss"
   Starting Point: the Weyr kitchen - Shaula (147, 232, 40)
   Plan A: Del confronts a drudge who is late for her shift serving at meals in the dining cavern.


   Vee: "it's going to be tight, this month. I think we have tier covered up to the fullsim tiers on the 28th. None of my 'final' interviews panned out; although one was kind enough to say it was very close, and would I be interested in coming aboard at a later date (translation: if the guy they picked doesn't work out). I'm now close to a final interview with 2 other companies, but suspect one won't work out."

   Vee: "Thanks, everyone who contributed to last week's Turnover party!"

RP: "We All Need a Bath"
Starting Point: The Weyr baths (the one clothing-optional public location in Gianfar) [Shaula (48, 197, 33)]
    Plan A:
        Candidate Orientation continues, with 'How to Wash a Dragon' lessons.


   Vee: "All bills paid so far.  I think my interview last week went well - but I've had no feedback yet...  two of the three interviews before Xmas have now said no, although one of them wants to talk to me about some opportunity in the near future. And I have more interviews this week."  

Turnover party
   We have a DJ, a dance floor, an obstacle race, a tug of war, and a "Race to the Hatching Sands" board game. We haven't invited the Hatchies because Vee was offline all last week. Please invite your friends!


   Vee: "All tiers paid so far. All ads are up to date. But cash is starting to get tight. However... Had 3 interviews before Xmas, and hadn't heard back from any of them before Friday. Which I'd assumed meant 'no', they were just being nice by not saying so before the season. However... got an email Friday from one of them to say they'll be making a decision this coming week. And I have a fourth 'final' interview on Tuesday."

   Dutch: "During RP time, next week (12 Jan) we have TURNOVER CELEBRATION. The Raglan Carollers are invited (Linn re-confirmed acceptance today). We have a DJ lined up. Location will be in the Weyr bowl. Later today, we'll be looking at cobbling together some sort of gaming/games for the big event. Oh, and INVITE YOUR FRIENDS!"
   Ludova: "If you can't make it to RP today and have ideas for Turnover please contact Dutch or Colin."

RP - "Work work work work, all in a day's work"
Starting Point: The Weyr Bowl
    Plan A:
        Labor hard on preparing for next sevenday's Turnover Celebration (IC/OOC)
    Plan B:
        Sweep and mop the dancefloor  (IC/OOC)

Last meeting in 2019.

   Vee: "Short term, tiers covered. Longer term, had 3 very good 'final' interviews last week. 2 of them, the hiring managers intimated it'd be unlikely that they wouldn't make an offer. But as of Friday, no feedback... just keeping fingers crossed. 4th 'final' interview will be scheduled for week of Jan 6th.  Not counting chickens, so I started interviews with 3 other companies this week, and 2 who'd expressed an interest & gone quiet suddenly popped up again. Also have a coding challenge to do from another."

   Planning for Turnover Celebration:
            To be held 2020-01-12 during RP time (13:30-15:00 SLT / 1½ Hours)
            Cisop Sixpence has agreed to DJ for us
            Music styles requested?
                Pernese music
                    Dutch uploaded some music to Google, as a guide for Cisop’s selection. Colin also has access to that folder (\Music\2020-01-12 GPoP Turnover Music\).
            Dance balls?
                Dutch created a ‘dance floor’ and placed some dance balls out on it, in the Weyr Bowl
        Location? The Weyr Bowl
            Additional activities (other than dancing)?
            Vee to invite Hatchies for a raid during Threadfall.
            Linn Darkwatch of the Raglan Tiny Carollers were invited - Linn acknowledged.
            Invite your friends!
            If anyone has any other ideas for the (90 min or thereabouts) Turnover party, please let us know. This is your party, as much as it is ours. Dutch can provide some word jumbles, or trivia questions. Maybe, for 'fun' games, we can set up a runner or dragon race or obstacle course, in/around the bowl (just temporary).

RP - "Ad Hoc due to holidays"
Starting Point: - Runner's Rest
    Ad Hoc RP, based on who shows up for what (or not)


    Vee: "Short-term, all tiers paid so far, and I just last night paid up all our ads for 3 weeks in advance.
    Medium term, the tiers for the full sims on the 28th should be covered, I'm glad to say...
    More importantly, long term. I'm going to be offline most of this week because of the long term. I have final interviews with 3 companies on 3 successive days, starting Tuesday, and, because there seems to be a plot making it harder to get back here than to leave, I'll be away pretty much until the next meeting. When, hopefully, I hope to report having more than one job offer...  So tomorrow I'll be packing, and last night I was hunting for hotels for this week - which is why I was up late, and why I decided to skip class this morning and just barely made it here.  Anyway, fingers crossed. With the festive season coming up, and the chance I'll be coming back here only to pack up and move back there, I decided to play safe and make sure we didn't need to worry about rent for a few weeks. Flights willing, I'll be here for the next meeting, which will probably be the last Gianfar meeting this year. Then, if I do have a job, I'll most likely have to move between Xmas & NY, so I'll be offline over the festive season for all the wrong reasons."

Turnover gather
   Dutch: "12th January, during RP time. We're still planning/plotting - but we have a DJ lined up, a venue (the Weyr bowl), and were hoping that YOU [Vee] could invite/inveigle the Hatchies to show up for a Threadfall. If anyone has any ideas/suggestions/requests, please bring it up to us, any time (although we DID reserve PLOT B for RP for Turnover Planning. Which brings up another point - INVITE YOUR FRIENDS :-)"
   Vee: "Oh, separate issue, would we like a performance from the Raglan Tiny Carollers this year?" Yes, we would! Dutch will IM Linn Darkwatch, as Vee's going to be away landing a new job (we hope!).

RP: "Watch POUT!"
Starting Point: The Weyr Dining Cavern - Shaula (112, 224, 41)
    Plan A:
        Weyr folk are showing new candidates around the Weyr, including Ludova, who so far has 'impressed' the Weyr with her opinions. This is a familiarization walk-through of the Weyr for new candidates, conducted by Weyrfolk, crafters and holdspeople. Good time for people to bring out that candidate character they were just sitting on.
    Plan B:
        Side conversation/planning for Turnover Celebration (OOC).


   Vee: "Short-term, I paid all our bills yesterday, and all tiers to date are paid. Medium-term is looking darker... I expect we'll be drawing down Novi's balances to cover full-sim tier this month. Donations welcome, don't be late with your rentals, please. Longer-term... The company I interviewed with before Thanksgiving turned me down last Monday. But I'm now at the final stage with 2 more companies, and close with a third! In fact, one company liked my application so much, they're skipping the technical stages and going straight to the onsite interview. (I think I may know someone there, which could explain it :) ) So I'm hopeful about landing a job in the next couple of weeks. But the chance of being paid before Xmas is looking remote."

   Vee: " I've not had much time inworld because of all the interviewing I've been doing. But I've been talking with Rish, and she's successfully made a plane script and the dragon animations work together, so adapting our dragonflight scripts - which are designed to work that way - should be cake. Err, easy. I think - not promising, mind - we could have new fully-Pernese mesh dragons by sometime in February... but that's partly up to the maker, who won't get to the skins until late January."

   Dutch: "I would like to propose 12th Jan as a date for Turnover *instead* of RP. That puts it out of the holiday season, and we can take a few weeks to plot & plan. Going OOC with a dash of klah, open party (invite friends) would give us potential to encourage (draft) civilians."
   Vee: " I'm going to say a ground-level location. I don't want to use 3500 for this, and a specially-built event location would make it less 'us'."

RP: "Calling all dragons!"
Starting Point: The Weyr Bowl
    Plan A (if we have enough dragons and riders):
        Dragon training exercise in Search And Rescue (SAR). Find the 'hidden' rider, somewhere on the sims.
    Plan B (depending on how fast the dragons & riders get through Plan A):
         A new Rider (candidate) coming from Hold stock and used to servants, is not adjusting to Weyr life and wants people to do things for him/her. This is causing stress with Hold/weyr/hall... complaints, etc.


   Vee: "...tiers paid and up to date, waiting on results of last week's final interview (Thanksgiving slowed that down, but I *think* it went well), more interviews in process."

RP: No Hoc Like an Ad Hoc
Starting Point: Tyl (67,74,23)
Plan A:
    Ad Hoc day - use the time to:
        Develop further plans for future RP


   Vee: "We're still here, ads will be paid today, tiers are covered. And I have interviews coming up. One final interview. Fingers crossed..."

   Vee: " First, an apology - I got sidetracked last Sunday, and didn't post the notice for the memorial (although I had it all prepared), which proved to be a good thing, as I couldn't make it either - way too much RL (interviews, phone calls)... nevertheless, a Memorial was held, late on Thursday night. The interviews have led to this week's interview schedule, so I can't complain too much. But I overdid it, got sick (through not enough sleep and not eating properly) and was offline most of yesterday as well. So I propose holding the Memorial today, in RP time - 1:30 SLT - in the Weyr Bowl."

RP class schedule
   Vee: "I've changed the RP class schedule. As of today, I'm teaching at 9am and... I've forgotten if I said 3pm or 4pm... 'later this afternoon'. 9am class got more students than I've seen in a regular class for a while, despite me being late with the notices. Only slightly ruined by the sim being restarted at 10..."

RP: 20191124 - Weyr o Where
Starting Point: The Where (wyer else)
    Plan A: A mysterious floating cube with a likeness painted on it, scares weyrlings - aka Anne's Memorial. (IC/OOC)
    Plan B: Consider island locations. (IC/OOC)
Island location names submitted so far:
            Arlin                              Beast's Burrow
            Broken Wheel Hold   For Crying Out Loud
            Frog Level              Glows Hollow
            Hold On Hold              Little Wallop
            Lizard Lick              Mountain Cove
            Nelson Hold              Reycalf Cliff
            Rocky Top              Toad Suck
            Trader's Gulch           Warm Springs
            Wherry Valley Hold   White Stone Hold
            Wild Runner Pass


   Vee: "Bills are paid and up to date, we're here for another month. And I have a final interview a week on Monday, with the company looking to start me almost immediately."

Anne's memorial
   Vee plans on putting notices in a number of groups. Times: noon & 7pm SLT this Thursday, 10am & 6pm this Saturday, in the Weyr bowl as usual.

RP class
   Vee would like to teach Beginning and Advanced classes, maybe at 9am and 3 or 4pm SLT, maybe one on Saturday or Sunday morning and one on Sunday afternoon; and maybe switching them - Basic then Advanced one week, other order the next week. And maybe getting the Admin class back on track.

Renaming Bai Long
   The names Rocky Top, Arlin, and Warm Springs have been suggested. We'll continue the discussion next week.  

   Dutch and Liriel: We need people willing to play the important Weyrpersons. I was hoping active roleplayers could fill in. We're going to try to plot more story lines IN and FOR the Weyr, in hopes of attracting Weyr players (old AND new). We need Weyr-oriented RP ideas. Any/all suggestions/recommendations are more than welcome; please fwd/contact either Dutch, Liriel, Colin, Shanna or Una.

   Starting Point: The Weyr (dining cavern and bowl)
    Plan A:
        Ground-based folk, picking up after last week's RP, after trying to find the source of infection affecting the tithe train's humans; determine if this is more invasive than at first glance.
        Discuss open issues, either investigate or close, as desired:
            Was there any outside agency affecting the Tithe Train?
            What are the facts about the wagons found, sunken near the shore of Big Island Lake?
            What happened to that Scout from the Train?
            Why did we first hear the train had headed EAST when it was actually found WEST?
            Why didn’t the Far Cry Holder report to Lady Varian, as was instructed?
            What happened to the Holders at Napple Cot? How did their Agenothree Tanks become damaged?
    Plan B:
          Dragon types (beasts & riders) doing dragon things: flying, flaming, practice, as needed

Title: Colin's meeting notes - book 37
Post by: Colin on March 01, 2020, 07:58:55 PM
(continued in book 38)


   Assumed to be OK.

   Main areas were reported to be Lag City as usual. Exhibitors' areas are beautifully landscaped and, as of meeting time, were lag free. The GPoP Display is @: SL17B Stunning (74,19,22).

RP - "Varian And The Evil Usurper"
    Starting Point: (*SIMULATED* Far Cry Hold - Main hall) Kuma (45,182,64)
        Plan A:
            Meet at a more northerly hold on the island, to discuss Veekar’s proposal with holders and crafters.
            (Use alternate personae / Adara to lead moderator delegation.)


   Assumed to be OK.  

RP: 2020-06-14 - "Too many cooks"
    Starting Point: The Runner's Rest
        Plan A:
            Word comes down to our intrepid team of unrest in holds within in, and adjoining the area that Veekar is attempting to take over.
            Holders and Crafters are demanding answers.
        Plan B:
            Ludova delivers a follow up missive from Veekar, inquiring as to why there has been no response to her reasonable request, yet.

Next week we may try bringing out some of our alts to play holders from the northeast. That would give us a chance to take on different roles.


   Vee: "Bills paid. I have more interviews lined up, and I actually got some scripting done last week - not a lot, but some."

   Vee: "SL17B continues apace (although construction of the main areas seems to be a week behind schedule)."

RP - "Grumbles, and Ludovasong"
    Starting Point: Weyr Dining Hall (
        Plan A:
            The Weyr and other reactions, to Veekar's proposal
        Plan B
            Ludova wants to get to the bottom of the Ludova Song
            Who perpetrated it?
            Who encouraged it?


   Vee: "The payment for Shaula went through, the payment for Kuma is stuck. There's some issue with Wyn's tier payment, but we think it's technical. "  

RP: "What do we do now?"
Starting point: Fishercraft Hall [Kuma (32,231,35) ]
        Plan A:
            Various Hold, Hall and Weyr Representatives gather to discuss expansion ideas for the island.
            What new cot holds, outlier halls and other social projects need to be engaged in?
                For example: Gabe may request to start his own Paddock, specializing in breeding runner-beasts, as his ‘journey-man project’.
                Both Far Cry (minor hold) and Neil’s Harbor (minor seahold) may wish to expand outlying cot holds into the same valley along the course of the East River (from Big island lake to the Sea).
            Which group gets precedence over the land and resources?
        Plan B
            Ludova wants to get to the bottom of the ‘How do we solve a problem like Ludova’ song, in the Weyr.
    ((These will be IN CHARACTER conversations/meetings, etc - since we had several weeks of OOC work))


   Vee: "Not much to talk about this week...  after our brief holiday, the full sim tiers are due later this week, and I think I have them covered. I'm interviewing in a lot of places, but no second interviews yet."

   Vee: "There was a delay in opening the SL17B regions, but as I haven't got around to picking up our parcel, that hasn't affected us. Our build isn't even started, but the basics should be done this week ;) I need to find time to work on some of the things I promised Wyn, probably Monday. The Birthday has a theme, 'road trips & vacations', but they also made it optional this year. So we're sort of half-doing it."

RP: "Prizes and a Surprise and Planning"
    Starting Point: Harper Hall (LARGE) Classroom {Kuma (200,105,40)}
    Dutch: "We NEED to give out the Linden prizes for best avatar creation. Please be prepared to wear your BEST avatar creation, from the previous few weeks of efforts/classes, for consideration. 1st = $L500, 2nd = $L300 & 3rd = $L200.
    "Then, various Hold, Hall and Weyr  Representatives gather to discuss expansion ideas for the island. What new cotholds, outlier halls and other social projects need to be engaged in?
    "For example: Gabe requests to start his own Paddock, specializing in breeding runner-beasts."

Editor's note
    BBC news reports that "Western Australia hit by 'once-in-a-decade' storm". Drought, fire, plague, and flood... our Aussie friends are getting hit far too hard!


   Vee: "I'm suddenly flooded with interviews so I'll only be around intermittently this week."

   Vee: "We got our SL17B exhibitor slot, I'm going to see if we can parlay it into a double-sized booth to get more room for dragons.  If any of you know any DJs or performers who could use some SLB exposure, have them apply today. SLB isn't short of artists, but changing the DJ slots to just 1 hour means there are more places."

RP - "Belated REZZDay Party"
Starting Point: Kuma (163,49,22) (Gather Square in front of Harper hall)
    Plan A: It was Vee & Dezy’s REZZDay, last week (Sunday).
        We will be having an OOC party to commemorate.
        Cisop Sixpence agreed to DJ for us
        Dancing, Music and such, to be had.
        Prize distribution for the avatars created during the recent Avatar classes.

Kirsten's Viewer
     KIRSTEN’S VIEWER is 'back'. This viewer was popular about a decade ago, for its stellar presentation of graphical content. This viewer is now BACK, and re-certified by Linden Lab as a TPV. This viewer supports Anaglyph 3D via red/green glasses.
    Vee: "It's missing a lot, like, there's no RLV, and a bunch of settings are hard to find or only in debug settings (if present at all) - this viewer really concentrates on the graphics. Which are *really* good. Kirsten is why we have shadows in SL, why LL put so much effort into Windlight. The viewer comes with a warning, though - it's in perpetual beta, so there's no 'release' version - there will always be bugs.
    Dutch: "The only issue I've seen yet, which may be a 'BUT' is that, when you zoom really close into something, it seems to go a little fuzzy. So I would not recommend it for face shaping, etc... but for photography? Yes!"
    Vee: "I had noticed that I can push my view out further in laggy places than I can with FS. And that region crossings are just as much of a problem..."
    Dutch: "Overall, SL just 'LOOKS' better in that, IMO."
    Vee: "Oh, and Kirsten seems to have built the new Environment code into it already (basically by constantly forking the SL main viewer's release branch). And yes, it really does... I'll have to try the 3D thing sometime."
    Dutch: "That's the recently announced EEP (or is that EEK?), right? (environment)"
    Vee: "The sun's in a different place in the sky when I switch viewers - a place that agrees with my night/day scripts... I need to spend some of my nonexistent free time getting the viewer set up and finding all the missing settings."

Notth Rental rebuilt
    Ludova has rebuilt the North Rental property, now that Cynianne's floating furniture has been Returned. Aside from needing a door it's ready for use in RP.


   Vee: "I don't have much to report; no major bills to pay until the end of the month, interviews this week, will probably miss our non-RP today."  

RP - "Juli's  MESH challenge (Part Trois)"
Starting Point: Harper Hall, Harper Quintet Meeting Room -
    Plan A:
        FYI - Sunday RP is gonna be PART THREE of 'Juli's  MESH challenge' - she (& Una) will judge our mesh avatar work, and, maybe a 3rd bit of class/discussion from last week.
        Last Sunday, we continued our discussion on MESH, BAKED ON MESH and Avatars.
        This was ended with Part 1 of the challenge, which was to create a male avatar for a specific character.
        Today, we will create another avatar for a specific character - this one female, all the while continuing our conversations & learning.
        There WILL be Linden prizes, for best avatar application over the course of the challenges. ($L 1,000 for 1st, $L 500 for 2nd, & $L 300 for 3rd.)


   Vee: "The Lindens did better than agree to a stay - they gave us the month off. We have no tier payments until May 28th. And in the meantime, my state tax refund arrived. So Gianfar is once again solvent, and we will be here for the next month. Aside from that, and me essentially interviewing all week but mostly not getting anywhere, I have no other news."

RP: "Juli's  MESH challenge"
    Starting Point: Harper Hall, Harper Quintet Meeting Room []
        Plan A:
            FYI - Sunday RP is gonna be 'Juli's MESH challenge' - she'll judge our mesh avatar work, and, maybe a 2nd bit of from last week.There MAY be a Linden prize, for best application. Oh, and to fill in numbers for the prize(s) for today - 500 for 1st  - 300 for 2nd - 200 for 3rd.
                In both Firestorm and the Linden Viewer, it is possible to EXPORT your avatar (slider) numbers, via the Developer menu | Avatar | Character Tests | Appearance to XML.This allows you to EXPORT your slider settings to an XML file.    
                XML files are not best read in Notepad, rather use WORDPAD, or IE to format them for half-way decent reading.
                In Firestorm (but NOT the LL Viewer), in EDIT SHAPE, you can IMPORT that XML file, to apply the same set of (slider) numbers, to new avatars. THEN, when you load up a new (mesh-ish) avatar, you can edit the shape and IMPORT that self-same XML file (for an identical avatar).


   Vee: "Friday, Wyn & I asked the Lindens for more time to pay for this month. I have some funds arriving that will easily take care of Gianfar, along with my essential fire & brimstone deliveries - but probably not before the middle of next month. We've been told this will probably be granted - but then one of Wyn's tiers came up a day early (it was due today but got processed Friday instead of Monday). The full sim tiers are due Tuesday, and are not covered - we might have made a partial payment if the HS tier hadn't hit. Hopefully LL will give us the extension we're asking for. In the meantime, one of the jobs I had a final interview with said No, the other is a week late in getting back to me, so not terribly hopeful. I do have more interviews coming up this week."  

FF & SL17B
   Vee: "Fantasy Faire has opened, and the revamped Sci-Fi Con is coming up. We're not in either, doesn't mean we can't visit. And I'm definitely back as a stage manager for SL17B. Still waiting to hear on the Greeters."

Avatar customization class
    Juli: "This is going to be a rather informal class. I'm just going to talk a little about Mesh bodies and Heads. Places to find good hair, tattoos, facial hair, etc. Oh and  AOs.   Basically a quick how-to for putting together a basic human body avatar from scratch."

RP - Juli's AVATAR Customization Class!
Starting Point: Harper Hall, Harper Quintet Meeting Room [Kuma (176, 125, 40)]
    Plan A:
        Juli's AVATAR Customization Class!
        ¡¡ YIPPEE !! ((Necessarily OOC))


   Vee: "Not much to add, except I'm waiting on the results of a couple of interviews. Last week was unusually productive. And all bills up to now are paid. I *think* I have upcoming bills covered, too." [Chronicler's note: Keep those donation jars and boxes busy, folks!]

   Vee: "SL17B applications for exhibitors, performers and volunteers are open. And I did submit one, but haven't heard anything back...they don't even confirm it's been received."

RP - "Ludova is still problematic"
    Starting Point: Weyr dining hall - Shaula (135, 226, 41)
        Plan A: :Ludova has been sequestered in Healer Hall with bronchitis leading to pneumonia. She has been pestering the healers for things to do and has learned a bit of healing. She has recovered and wants to hear that song Nola has told her about.* Nola arrives at a meal with a letter for Del, asking him to ask the candidates to sing the song again so Ludova can hide in the kitchen and hear it. * The song is "How do we solve a problem like Ludova" and it recounts everything she has done wrong while here.
        Plan B: (in case Ludova gets called away) At a meal, we discuss the upcoming hatching and wonder why the eggs are taking so long to hatch, and also discuss that Ludova is recovering and what effects that might have.


(There was no report last week as we had the Pern Day / Spring Gather instead of a meeting and RP time.)

   Vee: "Bills paid (so far), and, busy pursuing jobs, have no idea how much I'll be around this week."

RP: "Easter Day and also Yuri’s Night"
    Starting Point: Runner's Rest [Kuma (211, 93, 23)]
        Plan A:
            No plan/No organized RP (same deal as last year)
            However, we do WANT an unorganized session, in case anyone wants to come anyway to socialize, etc.
    (Yuri Gagarin was the first human to orbit the earth, on this date in 1961.)


   No report.

Linden news
   Ludova: "The Lindens have said that anyone who can't pay tier should contact support, who will arrange something. They also lowered the tier for educational and non-profit organizations."
   Shanna: "Concurrency is rising."
   Dutch: "Perhaps with LL abandoning Sansar, they can put some marketing muscle back into SL and reinvigorate the environment."
   For those who, like me, hadn't heard about this, Sansar has been sold. You can find more about that by browsing to
and searching for "Sansar".

Period music
   Shanna: "Oh - our RL Harpers are posting music from home: "
   Or, if you're paranoid about following URLs, search YouTube for "Opland - Freeman : Quality Quarantine Time : Four French Tunes"

Pern Day (Anne's birthday)
   Wednesday, place & time & activities uncertain, GPoP members only. Stay tuned to the GPoP station for more news if it happens!

Spring Gather
    Sun, 5 April (public event / all are welcome)
        10:45   Gather/Greeting
        11:00   Events
            Runner races        
            Tug o' War
            Obstacle course
            (other events, as requested)
        13:00    Music/DJ/Dancing (DJ Cisop - through to the end
        15:30   Das ende
 Invites will go out as group notices, suitably engraved.
   Colin: "We're sure that Vee will want to make non-Gianfar dragons welcome. Likewise Hatchies from Isle of Wyrms, our parent organization, whom we often invite to add confusion and cuteness to our major events."

RP: "More of nothing is still nothing"
    Starting Point: Harper Hall classroom (3rd floor) [Kuma (204, 118, 40)]

        Plan A: More gather and pre-gather planning


   Vee has "a bunch of interviews this week, the first new interviews in 2 weeks. All for remote or initially-remote work."  

Pern Day / Spring Gather
   Dutch: "We have a Gather in two weeks (open to all), and another (smaller one) in 1½ weeks, open just to GPoP. The smaller one is on the 1st (or thereabout), and the larger, open to all one is on Sunday the 5th. The 1st is a Wednesday, so timing will be crucial, for whomever can be here at whatever time is decided."
   Vee: "I've just been told, by a usually reliable source, that SL population figures are up - from a norm of 45k up to around 55k. Not the 60+ back when I joined, yet... but maybe we'll see a few old faces, and maybe even persuade a few to stay... if we do a good job with the Gather."

SFC & SLB news
   Sci-Fi Con is coming up but Vee decided not to enter it, as we don't have any builders.
   SL Birthday exhibitor applications opened Friday, and Vee has filed ours. "Exhibits do NOT have to be in theme this year, but as the theme is 'vacations and road trips', I think we'll manage. Parcels are being offered in 3 sizes, I'm trying to get us a medium-sized one, for the sake of the dragons - that's twice as large as a regular booth. SLB is June-July, so we have plenty of time to rope in builders."

RP: "Let's get together & do nothing"
    Starting Point: The plaza outside Harper's Hall
        Plan A:
            Check the TYL race course
            Set one up in Shaula
        Plan B:
            Social time, for the gang


   No report but the island's still here - except for the walls & floors of the "North Rental" home, which will have to be rebuilt.

Pern Day / Spring Gather planning
   Planning is still creeping along but we need input from Vee about what she'd like to do when on April 1. We`re assuming that that members-only event (on Anne`s birthday) will be held in Tyl and the April 5 event in either Shaula or Kuma.

AV Customization class/session/event?
   COMING SOON. Learn the ins and outs of MESH, BENTO and obtaining/finding stuff at either LOW or NO cost. We don't quite have a date/time for this yet, but we're working on it! The instructor we're hoping to line up, has lots of in-world experience with these (and finding stuff that's free or cheap).  

RP: Administrivia 101
   Starting Point: Gather Planning Chamber (behind the Hold Kitchens) - Kuma (15,113,77)
    Plan A: Start (IC) work, prepping for the Spring Gather


   Presumably OK.  

Pern Day events
   SCHEDULE OF EVENTS (times are all SLT)
    Wed, 1 April (private event/group only)
        ??:??   Start
        ??:??   Do something which Vee wants to be done
        ??:??   End
    Sun, 5 April (public event / all are welcome)
        10:45   Gather/Greeting
        11:00   Events
            Runner races        
            Tug o' War                (Dutch to 'run')
            Obstacle course     (Dutch to 'run')
            (other events, as requested)
        13:00   Music/DJ/Dancing (DJ Cisop) (Dutch to ask Cisop if she could extend ½ hr until 15:30, if needed)
        15:30   Das ende

RP: "Ris to the Rescue!"  (or just chat about upcoming events)
Starting Point: Runner’s Rest
    Plan A:
        Ris helping Sh'Lenda with an injured shoulder (NOT dislocated), after Threadfall.
        This is happening at the Rest, and is a direct follow on to last week’s RP.
        Can assume the shoulder's been bound, or is being bound up.
    Plan B: (alternate)
        Discuss the upcoming Pern Day/Spring Gather (In Character)


Happy March!

   Vee was absent, so no report.

Pern Day planning
   Currently thinking of a small party for Gianfar members only on 4/1, then an open event on 4/5. We might use Tyl for the 1st and Shaula or Kuma for the 5th.

RP: "KLAH-free Klatch"
Starting Point: The Runner's Rest
        Plan A:
            Late winter sitting around, soaking up heat and chatting about events.
            No Klah to drink, only ales and wines

Title: Colin's meeting notes - book 38
Post by: Colin on June 28, 2020, 06:42:52 PM
[continued in book 39]


   Varth: "There was a delay in processing the deal, nothing to do with me or the other side - was sprung on us by a third party - but the deal completed late on Friday.  So the money's currently with my UK solicitors, who should be transferring it to my accounts in... hopefully, about 14 hours... And *hopefully* if the transfers don't get called in by the relevant financial authorities, the first payments for Gianfar will go through shortly afterwards.
   "In the meantime, Vee's & Wyn's accounts are fully 'on hold' again - we're not sure why - which will make making the payments just a bit harder. I'll have to actually phone Billing during business hours. They went 'on hold' just a few days after we got the Labs to lift the hold on Wyn's account, and the lift was supposed to last a couple of weeks, as we understood it.
   "Anyway, it'll take a few days to clear the balance, as the debit card connected to my forex account has a daily limit about half of what we need to clear (and some other bills to pay), but Vee & Wyn should be back later this week. At worst, everything should be done by Friday.
   "And, 2 weeks in, I still have a job ;) But haven't been paid yet, because my manager goofed in approving my first timesheet, which messed up my agency's accounting... That should get sorted out today, too - because, under California law, today's the day I have to be paid by. My agency's been panicking about that. ;)"

Varth/Vee's schedule
   Varth: " Oh - I may not be here next weekend. I *think* I will, but not sure yet. Varth or Vee (hopefully) will leave messages if that's the case. My not being here will be because things are going well, though. I'll explain more when I can. :)"

   To be discussed next week.  


RP - "The Rescuers, Down Under"
Starting Point:  Tyl (214,152,41)
   Plan A: Rescue mission, to the mines
   Bring the miners home.
   Apprehend those running this unsafe, and illegal mine.
   Also close down this unsafe mine/turn it over to Smithcraft/Minecraft administration.
   Dragon sweep of the area, before/after the actual rescue. Possible canine assistance inside the mines?


   Varth: "The deal is done and the money is on its way, after a last-minute panic. The tiers should be paid off this week, and I get my first paycheck from my new job this week, too. Vee should be back in her chair next Sunday.
   "In the meantime, LL asked if we can make a token payment, and restored Wyn's account access, which had been taken away when the tier hit a certain level - she pays more tier than me, 4 sims, no OS's - so I'm going to empty whatever's in Novi's account and convert our remaining L$ to US$. It's a drop in the ocean compared to the total bills, but it'll show willing and we can't use L$ until we can log in again on our main avis.  So if anyone has any spare L$... ;) Anyway, that's the financial report.
   "Oh, and paying off the tier will take a few days - just because the total is now larger than the maximum daily limit on my debit cards -, so even if the money arrives tomorrow, Vee & Wyn may not be back until midweek. But we will be back :) And thanks for those donations! :)"

Event plans:
   Memorial for Anne, Sat Nov 21
   Autumnal Gather, Sun Nov 22 with dancing and maybe other activities.

RP: "Here we plan, to save the day!"
Starting Point: Tickle Cove Pond, Cothold. Shaula (202,98,3451)
Plan A:
Conversations, (maybe taking place at Tickle Cove Pond) with a weyr representative, to rescue the miners, from the Howling Hills mine and the ministrations of Elstan, and to also close down this unsafe mine/turn it over to Smithcraft/Minecraft administration.


   Vee posted a Notice last week that the money she'd expected would be coming in soon, and that she had a job offer at last. If you've been holding your breath, you may be able to exhale (into your mask, of course) around the end of this week.

Cog & Fleur sale
   Dutch: the Cog & Fleur sidewalk sale (where they were selling gold, bronze and green dragons) is over now - if anyone wants to still buy them - you're gonna have to walk through the store looking (or hit the MP) ... good luck!

Planning for: Autumnal (Anne’s) Gather
        Planning for: Saturday 2020-11-21 - Anne McCaffrey Memorial (the day she died)
        Gather Proper - Sunday, 22 Nov during RP time
            Dancing & Music (Dutch to contact Cisop)
            MAYBE some games/courses
            UNA to start work on a poster, of some sort, to publicize this.

RP - "What’s mine is mine, what’s yours is mine"
    Starting Point:
        Plan A:
            Investigate a mining operation which was reported, up near/in the Howling Hills.
            Discuss/plan for next steps.


Finances: Vee and Wyn are still among the missing; no word from them via Varth. No news is definitely no news, except that the island is still here.

RP: - "Tickle me once"
    Starting Point: Tickle Cove Pond, Cothold (Shaula (202,98,3451))
    Plan: Journey to Tickle Cove Pod Cot, to continue interviews there.

   Note that Gianfar's open for RP 24/7... there was a misunderstanding about that. Also, if you're registered in our Web page ( you can read some 'fanfic' stories. Unfortunately, I think that only Vee can register people.


   No news is no news, beyond the understanding that Vee was expecting something in First Life to give her enough money to pay the back rent.

RP interest?
   The RP group would like to know why more people haven't come back to Gianfar since the RP has improved so much. We're doing multi-week story threads, making adjustments to the imagined geography of the northeastern part of the island, working out motives for the imagined opponents' behavior... almost writing a short story. It'd be more fun if we had more players.

RP - "A Mysterious Find in the East"
    Starting Point:
        Plan A:
            Travel to Eastridge Cot to interview there


   Vee's been suspended again, but something's brewing that could bring her some money. Wyn's account is now 'on hold' for some reason - she was supposed to get the same grace period, but now doesn't have access even to the dashboard.

   Ideas for restarting Weyr RP would be welcomed!  

RP: 2020-09-13 - Where there's a smith, there’s a way
    Starting Point: Smithcraft Hall:
        Discussion with the smiths, as to this mysterious bluestone.


Finances: "Watch this space."

RP: Ad Hoc due to Labor Day
    Starting Point: The Runner’s Rest
        Plan A: The team gathers together to talk about the events of the past few sevendays.


   We're still here. So far LL's grace period is holding up. Vee's interviewing a lot but everything's moving slowly.

Labor Day
    Because next week will be a holi- keep 6 feet apart and be sure your masks are wearing masks -day, we'll skip a planned RP. We could gather in Runner's Rest and grumble about the state of everything.

RP - "The harper sleeps..."
    Starting Point: Shaula (151,72,3534)
        Plan A: The party is stopped by free folk, along their path, and taken to a cave, where we learn a lot.


   Vee was online yesterday.

RP - "What the Cot(hold)?"
    Starting Point: (LM's with each 'Plan'
      Plan A
        The delegation interviews people at Faux Cot:
        Kuma (238,221,24)
        ((Ludova to play a holder in that area))
      Plan B
        The delegation interviews people at Another Cot
        Shaula (202,98,3451)
        ((Ludova to play a holder in that area))
   Basically, the group will be spending time, interviewing around small holds/cots in the Veekar Aquisition Area (VAA) :-)
   And, as always - if anyone has any thoughts about what THEY would like to see in an RP, please let any of us know, and we can talk about including that (Group = Colin, Ludova, Una, Ardrhys, Dutch).
   Anyone can come to these planning meetings, we don't discriminate - the planning team meets in the council room, at 10:00 a.m. SLT on Sundays. All are welcome - this is RP for everyone's enjoyment.


Finances: Vee is back! Temporarily at least. Tiers still have to be paid and she may have the money by the new deadline. She's "anticipating getting suspended again before this is over." However, her services seem to be in demand in First Life, she's "been interviewing every day since Tuesday, and am through to the second round with 4 companies - one of them fitted in an extra interview and I'm at the 3rd round with them."

RP - "Out of the frying pan..."
    Starting Point: Far Cry Hold (Kuma (46,181,64))
        Plan A:
            The delegation from Gianfar arrives at Far Cry, to meet with, and directly negotiate with the delegation from Cloud Shadow.
   Ðutch: "and, just a reminder for any/all who care - pictures, if I take any, will be published via FLICKR (and organized into albums). ... (the FLICKR account is not exclusive, to GPoP, but if you don't mind looking at Callahan's or *shudder* RL pix, then I don't mind))"


   The sims are still here, Vee (and Wyn, according to latest news) are suspended till the overdue-tier issue is resolved.

Border House / Sea Breeze Cot
   The building on the northeast Kuma coast (once called North Rental) has been rebuilt. The doors are phantom and the water in the hot spring isn't, but it's usable for RP and the like.

RP - "Dang, this is a big island!"
    Starting Point: A small cot, along the way to Far Cry - Thuban (156,50,22)
        Plan A:
            Interim stop, along the way towards Far Cry , for negotiations, etc.
            Further planning, preparation and discussions on the upcoming negotiations with Veekar's representative. Basically, our intrepid negotiations team is overnighting at a small cot, along the way to Far Cry (the designated 'neutral spot' for these talks)


   Hoping that all's well.  


Real spaceships
   The meeting ended quickly when the SpaceX Crew Dragon splashdown was only 30 minutes away.

RP - "I Will See Clearly Then"
    Starting Point: The Harper Hall
        Plan A:
            An invitation has come down from Veekar, for Lady Varian (who refused it) and her to meet and talk about this situation.
            Adara and Zai will be detailed to represent Lady Varian in these talks instead. Harpers will accompany them.
            Ludova will represent Veekar (who will not deal with underlings)
            Try to settle the current impasse.
            This will be a preparatory session to that meeting.
            Master Simile to brief the designated negotiators on their duties.
        Plan B
            Further discussions and reports from the Northeast, concerning the situation there.


   The island's still here.

Gianfar maps
   The RP group's been working on maps by which to locate our imagined places. Stay tuned to this message stream for further information.

RP - "Don't raise the bridge, lower the river!"
   Starting Point: KUMA Council Chambers Kuma (57,128,90)
    Plan A:
        MAP Work (if map is not approved as yet)
    Plan B (optional/if map IS approved)
        Discussions on the situation out east, and further conjecture on Veekar's goals


[Editor's note: I try not to just copy/paste from chat log to meeting reports, but just to summarize. Bur some topics are so important that I do copy/paste. I do a little editing - sorting out interlaced conversations, occasionally fixing typos and capitalization.]

   Vee: "We're now several weeks behind on tier. Money set aside for the FS tiers had to be used for an emergency. Money that I'm owed hasn't been paid, and may not be for several more weeks. Wyn & I are talking to the Lindens. Now, by the end of next month (if all goes to plan), an entirely unrelated transaction will go through, and Gianfar will be safe for several months, minimum. SO we're just asking the Lindens for a 1-month deferral. Fingers crossed."
   Ludova: "The Lindens have said that during the pandemic they'll be lenient about things like this."
   Vee: "Keeping my fingers very crossed, as said transaction's going to make a few other changes for me, which will affect my time here - but I'll talk about that when I actually know what I'm talking about ;)
   "In other news, I'm still interviewing - a lot, there's been a sudden upsurge of interest in my skills this last week - but no final interviews (yet). The second shutdown, and companies discovering they don't actually need or like those offices, seems to be behind it."

The Gianfar map
   Vee: "I'm afraid a lot of work has been done that I'm about to bin... the maps on the end walls of the Council room show Gianfar's shape & mountain ranges (north) and place on Pern (south). The eastern half of the island map are the shape of the 6 sims we started with. You can see from the world map that Gianfar on (our version of) Pern is a lot larger than the sims make it seem - one of the many limitations of SL"
    Ludova: "So there's only a very little of Gianfar that's unexplored, the tail."
   Vee: "There's no rivers & lakes on the maps, that's only because Soo didn't draw any - doesn't mean there are none - and the coastline changed when the volcano blew & when the island was flooded."
   Dutch: "What is the SCALE of that map? how wide (in miles or km) is the island, east to west? Cause that (old) map makes it look only about 20 or so miles wide (in comparing with the sims, and the 'reported' 4 hour walking time, Hold to weyr)."
   Vee: "I think about a third of the island has never been rezzed in SL, though I saw it in Buck's Opensim servers once (interestingly, the Hold was in a different place, roughly where Harper Hall is now).  I don't think Soo left any maps with scales - I can ask her - but Gianfar's close to the size of either half of Far West, and bigger than Ista."
   Colin emerges from The Atlas of Pern to report that Ista's about 150 miles long and 50 miles wide.
   Vee: "Then we must be about 150 by... 125? Something like that. There are islands around us, mostly to the southeast iirc, that don't show on the island map and are just a pixellated blur on the world map."
     Ludova: "How long does it take to walk from hold to weyr?"
   Vee: "I've held that it takes about 4 hours to ride, longer by cart. That was based more on gut feeling than maps, though. Soo never said - well, she was Weyrwoman, took her a few seconds.
   "I know, I've just dropped a bomb on a lot of hard work, sorry ;( "
   Ludova: "So it seems to me that we need to figure out where all these places we've been RPing with are on Soo's map."
   Dutch: "Oh well, I guess I'll repatriate Victoria Island to Canada, then. We still have the 'places spreadsheet' in Google docs, and can use that as a starting point."
   Ludova: "I'll look for that. Vee, may I have the texture the council room map was made from?"
   Vee: "If i can find it, one sec... and if it's transferable - anything where we started with Anne's maps is a copyright issue... (and by 'we' I mean Soo, Nekome, & Wendy)."
   Ludova: "I just need the one of just the island, not the one superimposed on Anne's map."

RP - What the what?
    Starting Point: The HOLD Council Chamber
        Plan A:
            IC discussions on the map, and trying to figure out Veekar's goals.
        Plan B:(optional)
            IC/OOC discussions on maps, and Hold/Crafthall Banners


   Presumably OK for now at least.

Linden Lab sale
   One discussion of this event is in "New World Notes" at
And there are probably others. The best advice at the moment is from "Hitchhiker's Guide" - "Don't Panic".

   Dutch has found a tool to make heraldic banners. It doesn't have all the charges that are documented in the DLG, but we can rationalize our way out of that problem. And the Holds that we invent can "come complete with" their own heraldry. There are a few such banners set out, in the location we had stand-in for Far Cry Hold - Kuma (35,182,63).

Gianfar map
   Dutch, Una, and Ludova have been working on a MAP for Gianfar Island, based on Canada's Victoria Island (IRL about the size of the Island of Britain). An EARLY example is right now in the Council Chamber (Kuma (57,128,90)), if anyone wants to look at THAT (not yet finalized/approved, mind you)

RP - "What is this about Ambien?"
    Starting Point: A Trading Hall in Tyl (140, 7, 29)
        Plan A: Discussions on the search for Somnya (the missing Harper)


   Vee: "... should be sorted, although the next few weeks will be tight. I'm currently late on paying for Shaula, but the tier should go through today or tomorrow, and the following tiers should then be covered.
   "Jobs, still no good news, just no bad news either - no-one I'm interviewing with now has turned me down this week, no-one's taken it to the final stage yet either.
   "And that's all I have this week... I plan on running my class today, but NCI is closing one of its campuses and stripping another, so it may, in future, be at a new classroom I just authorised at NCIsland."

RP - "Where'd they go?"
    Starting Point: The Harper Hall Quintet Room
        Plan A:
                    One of the Harper Hall Agents in the north is missing.
                    Gathering in the Hall to discuss matters


   Vee: "I'm stage managing at the Auditorium at SL17B all day today, I won't  be  in sim. I was called in early to manage an extra act added to the schedule.
   "Anyway, not much  to report... all bills paid to date, Stage work has been very busy (and I've loved every minute - but it ends today <pouts>).
   "No movement on interviews.
   "Right now, finances are tight, but I'm working on that, so don't panic. ;)"

RP - "Big Fleas have Little Fleas"
    Starting Point: Smithcraft Hall
        Plan A:  Conversations surrounding the investigations into Veekar's goals.
            Talk out the various different, and conflicting rumors
                Black Water
                Mineral Wealth
                Hidden Geographic Feature (why the Howling Hills?)
                Something Else?

Title: Colin's meeting notes - book 39
Post by: Colin on October 25, 2020, 07:44:35 PM
[continued in book 40]


    Assumed OK.

    Dutch: "I think a good start was had - Juli set up a Free Folk Camp as well as a start on a Runnerbeast Hall. See for some pix .
    Also, Pending approval:
 - Remove grape stomping area [Nekome’s] {submitting idea(s) for replacement first}
 - Revitalize 3500 (de-geisha) {Vee planning, but putting off}
 - Remove two amphitheaters in Tyl (northern & eastern ones) {Vee to check /c Wyn, in event Wyn has other ideas / still needs to check}.
    Also Pending:
 - Cave at NW Tyl/NE Etamin [near tanner’s cot] {approved} Etamin (254,236,24).
    And, Ard had also mentioned about updating the HUNT, once land changes are complete. So that's a thing, there, amongst all the other things.
    And that's about it, for the landscraping report, except to say a big THANK YOU to all who worked and are continuing to work on the project, lifting that bale, toting that beam, plumbing that bob, etc."

    Dutch: "On another aspect - Juli's not feeling well today (and already begged off RP for this afternoon) - so I would encourage us all to send her a "Feel better soonest!" IM"

Islander Tales
    We continue /c Islander Tales....
Dutch: As of now, upcoming weeks are as:
21 Feb            Gabe (cancelled / now ad hoc)
28 Feb            Moira (histories)
7 Mar            Adara, Part II
14 Mar            Zai
21 Mar            Mish
28 Mar            Catt
4 Apr            Gabe (tentatively rescheduled from 2021-02-21)
11 Apr thru 9 May    Unscheduled/Open
    If anyone wants to get on the schedule for their character, please let us know, and we'll pencil you in.

RP - Ad Hoc
    Ad Hoc
Starting Point: Fisher’s Hall, Kuma (11,250,22)
Plan A:
Ad hoc conversations and such / Seven Seas / Feed Dolphins
Plan B:
 - Go thru the weyr stuff Moira found for us in the (deep) archives
 - Briefly go over what info is on the NOVIPEAKS site and how to get to it in less than 24hrs of trying.
 - Continue our discussion from last week on new players, and the mentoring process(es).


   Vee: "Still good, we're still here for at least the next month :)  And I still need to get our ads set up again..."

RP -  Islander Tales - Del’s Tale
    Starting Point:
        Plan A:
            Del’s Tale
        Plan B:
            Genesis of the character
        Plan C:
            Briefly go over what info is on the NOVIPEAKS site and how to get to it in less than 24hrs of trying.


   Vee: "...remain good. All tiers for this month are covered, outlook seems good"

Tyl renovation
   We continued discussing plans for removing most of the runner course, possibly having some natural jumps like hedges and ditches, as part of a Free Folk campground. We're speculating about what we might put in place of the vineyard. We'll likely want to remove the little mountain in the NW corner of Tyl - it was built for an RP session long ago and never used again.

 Islander Tales Schedule:
7 Feb)    Adara
14 Feb)    Del
21 Feb)    Gabe
28 Feb)    Moira (histories)
7 Mar)    <open>
14 Mar)    Zai
21 Mar)    <open>
28 Mar)    Catt
   Dutch: "We have been scheduling dates for alts/alt characters as well, and we can also use a date in case anyone wants to work up/develop a character (we can all help, if wanted). No need to all rush for dates :-) - anyone can contact any of us, at any time, to claim a date for themselves."

RP: Islander Tales - Adara’s Tale
    Starting Point: Runner’s Rest,
        Plan A:
            Adara’s Tale
        Plan B:
            Genesis of the character
        Plan C:
            Briefly go over what info is on the NOVIPEAKS site and how to get to it in less than 24hrs of trying.


   Vee: "...still good, final tier payments for this month were made on Thursday."

Moira's idea
   Moira: "With all the new people now, I thought it would be good to have a RP session where I taught the founding stories of Gianfar, and we took a field trip to see the shields now used for the welcome center dome and the Rift.   Best location would be the market stall area here at the Hold I think. Just a one session thing, setting could be seen as an informal market day with Harpers attending and deciding to tell a story, seeing a lot of new faces."

RP schedule - Islanders' Tales
   Dutch: "We're still doing Islander Tales - and have them penciled in through 21st Feb. We can pencil Moira in for the 28th of Feb (which also gives her plenty of prep time)."
   1/31 - Theman
   2/07 - Adara
   2/14 - Del
   2/21 - Gabe
   2/28 - Moira (Histories of the Island)

Terraforming & landscaping & construction
   With all the new sites we're inventing for RP, the RP plotters have been speculating about reusing some territory for cotholds and a Free Folk camp - with Vee's and Wyn's approval, of course. In Tyl, the "temporary" runner race course (and its two amphitheaters) can be removed; the vineyard could be replaced with something; the little pimple-shaped mountain at the NW tip of Tyl could be replaced with something. In Etamin, a dock could be added to Firelizard Island. In Thuban there's a usually-overlooked cot besides Moira's former cave. On the 3500 level, we could clean out the remaining geisha-related items and make other use of the cavern. All to be discussed in coming weeks.

RP:  Islander Tales - Theman’s Tale
Starting Point: Beastcraft Hall - Tyl (104,246,23)
Plan A:
    Theman’s Tale
Plan B:
    Genesis of the character
Plan C:
    Briefly go over what info is on the NOVIPEAKS site and how to get to it in less than 24hrs of trying (if possible).



Character stories
    We're continuing to invite folks to describe their histories. Theman (Dutch) is scheduled for next week, Del might do the next one. And for those who've gotten registered in, the Forum / New Applicants / New Applicants Bio/Character Sheets section has a few dozen character sheets that might inspire you to come up with something for an Islander Tales session.

RP - Islander Tales - Rissaly’s Tale
    Starting Point:: Shaula (158, 61, 3433) but watch Notices in case that changes
        Plan A:
        Plan B:
            Genesis of the character (OOC).


    Vee: "... are OK, we're here for the next month :)"

   "Islander Tales - Una"
Starting Point: Weyr Harper Quarters - Shaula (124,237,57)
Plan A: Una’s Tale
Plan B:
Genesis of the character (OOC).


    Vee: "still good, tiers covered for the next month."

Formerly active players' stories
    Quippe: "Since we're planning to devote roleplay to reminiscing, and since there are so many of us that weren't here when some of our most important players were, I am hoping, perhaps foolishly, that even if they don't want to return to roleplay they might be willing to tell their stories."

    Dutch: "This week we're inaugurating a new idea - that which we call 'Islander Tales' - where each week we celebrate one member of the group - for backstories, etc. That said, this week's RP is as:
    Islander Tales - Colin
Starting Point: The Trader’s Station - Tyl (82,19,25)
Plan A: Colin’s Tale
Colin tells us about the free folk, how he became a Trader, and how the free folk came to distrust Riders.
Plan B:
Genesis of the character (OOC).

Tyl greeter system updates
    Vee: "Apologies in advance if anyone gets weird messages from the Tyl Greeter, I'm updating security code - Tyl's my test lab, since it gets a number of Russian furries regularly."


    Assumed OK.

Yesterday's outages
    The major problems that happened yesterday morning and evening were reported in a group chat to be caused by a fire in a Lab asset server. We'll presumably never know more than that, and remember that it's just a third-hand rumor..

New Google DOC URL:
Section 01/Page 01
    This tracks all RP events since the beginning of... well, of when Dutch started tracking them.

RP - Ad Hoc, for Holidays (last one)
    Starting Point: Smithcraft Hall Office
        Plan A: Ad hoc, for the holidays
            Maybe discuss/tweak the PERN video prim ((Solanus Dracon vids))
            Maybe discuss some future RP plans/ideas.
            (We’ll actually have a PLAN, next week)


   Assumed to be OK.

Holiday Gather
   Tuesday 12/29, 2PM SLT & PST / 5PM EST / 10PM BST / 11PM CET
Location: Gather Plaza Kuma (163,49,22)
Dancing, chatting, etc.

   1:30-3:00pm SLT as usual, also in Gather Plaza
   Ad hoc, IC. How about telling stories about things that happened or could have happened on Gianfar? No pressure to participate, just listening is part of the storytelling experience.


   OK through the end of the year, at least.

Turnover party:
   We're still planning a (JUST GPoP) holiday party, for the 29th (a Tuesday) - probably at 14:00 SLT - which should be 22:00 BT and 23:00 CET.

RP: "Ad Hoc for the Holidays"
Starting Point: Far Cry Hold - Kuma (39,185,63)


   Vee: "All up to date, next tier will hit Tuesday and is covered. Haven't got round to restoring our ads yet, so L$ expenses are minimal. We're still good for the next month."

   Discussed EEP and Firestorm's latest release. Looks as if there's a lot of flexibility there for folks who like to get into such things. More discussion next week.
   Vee: "Incidentally... it's early days, but most of the problems ascribed to the new FS viewer seem to come from people not saving their settings first and restoring them after the upgrade. But, if you use graphics presets - check them. Some of mine lost their 'advanced lighting' checkmarks."

Plan for Turnover parties:
        Mid-Week event Target Date:    
        2020-12-29 (Tue)
        something after 2pm PST/5pm EST/10pM BST/11pm CET? - (or an hour earlier)
        Music feed can be swapped over to whatever is preferred.
        Gather plaza is still set up/decorated.
        No posters needed, this will be ‘just us’ - group notices will/should suffice.
        NOTHING on/at RP date/time

RP - "Ad Hoc, for Holidays"
Starting Point: Weyr Dining Caverns
    Plan A: Ad Hoc for the Holidays


Finances, still good. End of report.

   RP times between Christmas and New Year's will be "ad hoc" - drop in and talk or do things with whoever else happens to be here.
   Dʊtch: the GOOD NEWS is, the gather square is still set up from "Anne's Gather", last month - dances, etc. So any party, planned or ad hoc, is supportable.
   Current plan for Turnover parties:
Mid-Week event Target Date:    
2020-12-29 (Tue)
Something after 2pm PST/5pm EST/10pM BST/11pm CET? - (or an hour earlier).
   More discussion's possible at next Sunday's general meeting.

RP -" Let the complaints begin!"
Starting Point: The Weyr - Shaula (233,59,75)
Plan A: Conversations at the Weyr, concerning new issues which affect the island, hold and crafts.


   Good through the end of the year.

Memorial & Gather
   Dutch: thank you (again) to everyone who came to the Keen, and to the Gather - you are what 'makes this all worthwhile (and fun)'.  

RP - "What the SHARD’s NOW?"
Starting Point: The Runner’s Rest (Kuma, Runners' Rest)
   Plan A:
As our intrepid crew settle down for a well earned rest, word reaches them of a shocking nature, concerning their actions, while at Cloud Shadow.
   Plan B:
Introduction: A rumor of a strange (unknown) dragon flying near the outskirts of the island is reported.


   Vee: "...are very good, we're here through the New Year."

   Dutch: "I would like to THANK EVERYONE who came down, yesterday for the Anne Memorials at the weyr."
   Vee: "yes, thank you all. And now we can start thinking about what the 10th Memorial should look like... because we are going to be here for it."

RP - "Anne’s Gather"
Starting Point: Kuma (163,49,22)
Plan A: Music and dancing

   Vee: "When Jax & I last revised the rules, Gianfar had a lot more players. We're a lot smaller now. We've virtually shut down the Weyr. and the Crafts are a smaller part of the RP. Obviously, we want to expand again. Let's assume we do... how do we bring new players onboard? How do - or do - we manage Initiations, and apprenticeships? because we don't have a functioning Weyr to train dragons & riders, and most of the Crafts are unstaffed, which makes making Journeymen problematic. Except for Harpers, who are not a problem. But the other crafts... and the Weyr., especially. I'm wondering, if & when we have new dragons & riders, if we should just appoint them to the Weyr, and take care of Impressions later, and ignore clutching & eggs on the sands until the Weyr is large enough and fully staffed again. And the same with the other crafts. let some applicants join as journeymen & even masters, because we've no process to take them through the stages right now."
   Ludo: "I remember Isarma being named Master Harper that way. How would you handle dragon-rider pairings?"
   Vee: "Dragons & riders will still need to be a pair on starting, we'd just say they've always been here and are part of the fighting wings. if they want to Impress, well, we've often taken Impression to be 'out of time', so we wait until we have enough pairs and do it as a separate RP. Of course, none of this works unless & until we can bring in new players, which also means we need a workable dragon avi... but this is something we can think about now.  If anyone has any other ideas, we can discuss it next week."


   This meeting didn't happen, as far as most folks could tell. LL graced us with major failures in logins, group chat, teleporting, and landmarks. So if you're seeing this text, you're lucky.

   Presumably OK.

   Una made beautiful posters for the Memorial and the Autumn Gather. The Memorial will be held in the Weyr Bowl on Saturday, 11/21, at noon and 5pm SLT. The Gather will be held in the dance floor in front of Harper Hall on the next day during our standard RP time, 1:30-3:00pm SLT.

RP - "Gather ye now your laurels, but don't stop working"
    Starting Point: Dance/Gather Plaza outside Harper’s Hall
        Plan A:
            With a gather to set up for next week, our intrepid crew cannot sit on their laurels - they have to get busy.
            Gather decorations, etc, to be set out.
            Arguments over minor points.


   Apparently OK. Could always use more donations.

Memorial Service
   Presumably will go as usual, on November 21 (a Saturday this year), the day Anne died. The site will be the Weyr Bowl (in Shaula). There are traditionally  two occurrences of the event to accommodate American and European members. All dragons in SL will be welcome.

Autumn Gather
   Will be on the next day, starting during our habitual RP time of 1:30pm SLT. We're planning music and dancing on the Gather site in front of Harper Hall. Guests will be welcome. We also have a 'club mover' system (on LAN - thank you) which we're hoping you'll all enjoy (formation dances, etc).

RP - "To finally face your demon"
Starting Point: Entrance to Cloud Shadow - Kuma (10,79,90)
Plan A: The gang confronts Veekar, at Cloud Shadow Hold.


   Vee: "I have only one major piece of news, which is, Wyn is back, all Gianfar's tiers are up to date, all tiers for the next month are covered."

Memorial service
   Stay tuned.

Autumn Gather
   Dances are shaping up well.

Pern related videos
    Dutch: "I found some Pern related videos on YouTube, dropped them into a public playlist @ -
(10 videos, between 9 min and 21 min, each)

RP - "I’m just totally fed up, now"
    Starting Point: Weyr Upper Dining Cavern -
        Plan A:
            Risally collapsed on her return. Is she okay? Will she be?
            What happens, as all the rescuers have to quarantine themselves. Will they get on each other’s nerves?
        Plan B:
            What is causing the dearth of wild beasts in the Howling Hills?
            Concerns surface that the beasts may be scared off, by a large feline, brought in from the south. This is an unconfirmed speculation - so far.
            Gabe and Theman will examine some of the Howling Hills beasts, if they can be found/captured. Sh’Lenda asked to help.


   Vee is back with us, Wyn is still missing, but Vee knows what's causing the problem.

   Stay tuned.

Autumn Gather
   txep (Jade) has a 'club dance' machine that we'll be trying out on the dance floor. It should be able to handle 25 dancers, so we may need to gather a huge mob (by Gianfar standards) to give it a real workout. We're also aiming to have some Renaissance music and maybe some Pernese music.

RP - "No job is finished until the paperwork is done"
 Starting Point: Weyr Dining Cavern (
 Plan A:
 Regroup, and recharge, after the events of last week.
 Discuss the current state of affairs, and lay in plans for future efforts.
 Discuss plans for dealing with the apprehended overseers from the mine, and in treating the indentured miners and returning them to their home holds.
 How will we prevent future events, such as this?

Title: Re: Colin's meeting notes - book 40
Post by: Colin on March 07, 2021, 09:02:35 PM

   Vee: " ... still good. All tiers paid, funded for at least another month. Still haven't reactivated our ads, though. I should probably do that."

   We won't be participating this year.

   Vee: "Put our application in. Should hear back at the end of next month. Asking for a double-size plot with water. Theme is 'Hidden Worlds', Wyn is very excited about doing a cave again :) So I think that's decided. If we get a double, we'll do dragon rides, and dolphin rides if there's water; if we get a single, it'll depend on primmage - but the idea is to show Pern's underground life, so it'll take up more prims than usual, especially if we use mannequins. We don't have the build rules yet, but the general SLB rules have been changed, so I'm expecting the build rules to change as well."

Pern Day
   Vee: "Next Sunday. We have a poster - thanks, Una! - we have a DJ - thanks, Dutch - and we have firelizards - thanks, Quippe/Ludo :) Now we need to advertise..."
   Dutch: "and invite our friends :-)"
   Vee: " I did ping Snow, no response yet so idk if the hatchies are coming. But I'll try to get a notice in IoW with the poster."

RP- Islander Tales - Catt’s Tale
Starting Point: Weyr Harper’s Quarters - Shaula (124,237,57)
    Plan A:
        Catt’s Tale
    Plan B:
        Genesis of the character
    Plan C:
        Briefly go over what info is on the NOVIPEAKS site and how to get to it in less than 24hrs of trying.
   Dutch: The NEXT couple of weeks:
     4 Apr    Anne’s Birthday (Gather/Party)
    11 Apr    RP Strategy Session
    18 Apr    Gabe's Tale (rescheduled)
    25 Apr    Ludo's Tale
   Dutch: "if anyone would like to schedule an Islander Tales week for their character, please let us know."
   Vee: "My rezday is May 10th. Perhaps we could schedule Lady V for Sunday May 9th."


   Assumed OK.

Gather planning
   The Gather, celebrating Anne McCaffrey's birthday, is getting organized. Her birthday was April 1 so the Gather will be Sunday, 4 April during RP time (normally 13:30 to 15:00/15:30 SLT) (sometimes till 16:00 if we get busy talking). Invite your friends and any passing dragons. Una's doing a great poster for the event!

Tyl changes
   The RP bunch is working on updates to Tyl. Gabe's runner breeding cothold is looking good and we're discussing changes to the vineyard area. Stay tuned!
   And by the way, the mostly-Russian mostly-furries who've been hanging out in Tyl and Etamin are behaving better - mostly just standing on the 1000m 'floor' and apparently talking, not leaving (many) Objects behind. I assigned myself to check on them every (almost every) morning, and Dezy's been following up on them too.

   The theme for SL's 18th birthday event is "Hidden Worlds." It seems a natural theme, for Gianfar.

SF Con
   The theme for the annual SF Con event is "Horror." Gianfar's not an obvious site for such things, but Vee and Wyn may come up with something.

RP planning
   Remember, you're welcome to come here any time and do your own Pernish RP. The place is deserted (except for those furries) Monday through Saturday.
   For today, we're continuing the Islander Tales theme with Mishalath's Tale.
     Starting Point: The Weyr Bowl (campfire area) Shaula (139,104,34)
          Plan A:
               Mish’s Tale
          Plan B:
               Genesis of the character
          Plan C:
               Briefly go over what info is on the NOVIPEAKS site and how to get to it in less than 24hrs of trying.


    Assumed OK.

Birthday Gather
    Date: April 4th, the first Sunday after Anne's 95th birthdate (also Easter Sunday and the last day of Passover).
    Place: the dance square in front of Harper Hall, Kuma (167, 60, 22).
    Activities: dancing, possibly a firelizard egg hunt and hatching, possibly an always-chaotic visit from Isle of Wyrms "hatchies" (who love cookies).

Islander Tales - Zai's Tale
    Date: today during RP time, 1:30pm SLT (Pacific Daylight Saving Time)
    Place: The Hold Dining Room,
    Activity: Zai will discuss her character history (mostly IC) and how she came to design such a character (OOC)


Time shift coming!
       The US will move to Daylight Savings Time NEXT WEEK. Clocks will be moved one hour ahead at 2am Sunday, so all action will happen one hour earlier as seen from outside. Unless you live in Hawaii or all of Arizona except the northeast corner, where standard time will continue. And if you live elsewhere... well, take several aspirin and a big cup of coffee, and consult

   Vee: "... still good, but we may be about to be hit with a tier increase for the non-grandfathered sims. Word reached me that a friend who's a major SL landowner has been warned about it, but it's not official yet. There'll be an announcement on the LL blog. Not clear if this is just an increase to cover LL's rising costs, or intended to allow for a reduction in premiums, or what.  I was told the number they're talking about is, quote, 'slightly over ten percent'. But I'm getting this third-hand; I just checked my SL Email, and I've had no official word yet. Unless it went to spam or something...
   "LL still aren't ready to resume selling regions or constructing more mainland; seems to be some issue with rolling out new regions in the uplifted world. [Moved from local servers to the Cloud. -ed] I *think* they'd like to have tier changes and new regions announced at the same time. Anyway, we can swallow a ten percent increase in the non-grandfathered sims, that's less than half our combined tier. But it occurs to me that they might also end grandfathered status at some point. There's no technical difference between grandfathered & regular sims any more. And not a lot of us left, since selling a grandfathered sim automatically makes it 'regular'. LL talked about ending grandfathered status 2 years back, before uplift was more than a daydream. Otoh, the fact that there's not many of us, and we tend to be the older 'historic' sims, might help protect us. ... Big landowners and corporations have contracts directly with LL. They pay less, an they pay well in advance. Works out all round. Anyway, nothing we can do about it except wait."

RP: Islander Tales - Adara’s Tale, Part 2
Starting Point: Runner’s Rest, Kuma (206,92,23)
Plan A:
Adara’s Tale (part II)
Plan B:
Genesis of the character
Plan C:
Briefly go over what info is on the NOVIPEAKS site and how to get to it in less than 24hrs of trying.
   Dutch: same Pern time, same Pern SLURL

Pern Day Gather
   Dutch: "We do have a DJ lined up. And we were talking about the location for a flit egg hunt, it was suggested we keep it in the vicinity of the dance square, for conversational sharing. We could set up Vee's scripted, complex flit egg hunt, but where?"
   Vee: "The egg hunt can range all over Gianfar - except for Rastaban, which isn't in the network at present, but doesn't have any land either."
    MoiraKathleen: "One question we didn't discuss was whether the egg hunt would occur prior to Gather, or during...  I think that would impact location choices."
   Vee: "Do we want people exploring the place and deciding they like it? ;)"
   Dutch: "Also, as we are going to be inviting guests - are there any limitations on WHO can participate/hatch a flit?"
   Vee: "The scripted egg hunt requires some work. Someone has to plant the eggs, and re-plant them - they only get found once, in the current game. We can always have a separate hunt around the Gather party. I don't think we've had a restriction in the past."
   Dutch: "A separate hunt, near the Gather square, may be more forgiving to guests (and we can always either take our guests on a tour, or encourage them to 'get lost in the sims'."
   Vee: "I like that idea. :) And for the hatching(s), you only need to find 1 egg.  Gianfar-wide hunt is about who can find the most."
   Quippe: "Perhaps an unscripted hunt, limited area, limited number of eggs."
   Vee: "Precisely :)"
   Dutch: "If we're doing a dance, and an egg hunt/hatching - we would probably not have enough time for a Hatchie Raid® or something like that (but invitations to them should (IMO) surely go out)."
   Quippe: "I could set that up so that it's convenient for the hatching. I sure hope I can find my hatching setup."
    Dutch: "And I think the lure of a flit (aka personal dragon) would be an interesting 'draw' for guests. And we can revisit over the next few weeks."
   Vee: "Just spoke with Snow at IoW, looks like we'll have hatchies for the gather. [cheers]"

Sci-Fi Con
   Vee: "I spoke to Ari last week, does look like she & Senet are back in charge. However, this would be the 13th convention, so they picked the theme 'horror'. That leaves an RP with non-scary dragons at a disadvantage. Still, I'll look into it. Thread may be horrific, but we can't make a booth, much less a sim, composed only of Thread.  Anyway, I'll look into the details and go look at their convention map. Don't even know the dates."


   Vee: "...remain good, all tiers paid on time, we're definitely here another month."

Pern Day
   Anne was born on April 1, so we celebrate that day each year. This year that'll be a Thursday so we'll plan something for RP time on April 4th.  That's Easter Sunday in First Life so we might have an egg hunt - firelizard eggs, of course. We could have a hunt, then bring the hunt eggs to the hatching to be hatched.

Tyl rebuilding plans
   Starts have been made/continued near the orchard, for a Free Folk camp, and by the start of the runner course, for a Runner Beast Hall.
Pending approval:
 - Remove grape stomping area [Nekome’s] {submitting idea(s) for replacement first}
 - Subsume into the millery area (below, near orchard)
 - Revitalize 3500 (de-geisha) {Vee planning, but putting off - call it Phase 2}
 - Remove two amphitheaters in Tyl (northern & eastern ones) {Vee to check /c Wyn, in event Wyn has other ideas / still needs to check}
 - Need Vee to remove Runner Course Start/Finish line
Current Plans:
Near orchard:
 - Remove the little cot near orchard for a new model.
 - Add a small river/creek & watermill (for grain grinding)
 - Cave at NW Tyl/NE Etamin [near tanner’s cot, Etamin (254,236,24)] {approved and done}
 - Mostly flatten out / revisit later
 - Add wheat fields, tilled grounds, etc
 - Add a rutted wagon track:
(Juli) A road running from the Runners Rest area through the tunnel and off towards the tannery would be nice. (Colin) And at the north, it could enter Tyl from where the north end of the race course used to be, and go past Beastcraft and Tannercraft. (Dutch) Maybe [well maintained] nearer the Hold, trailing off into dirt/ruts/mud?
 - Ard mentioned (last week) about updating the HUNT, once land changes are complete.

Islander Tales schedule
7 Mar        Adara, Part II
14 Mar        Zai
21 Mar        Mish
28 Mar        Catt  (can change, if needed for Anne’s Day)
4 Apr        Anne’s Birthday Gather (Also Easter Day)
11 Apr        Gabe (re-rescheduled)
Dutch: After the 11th of Apr, nothing is slated - if anyone wants to get 'in' on the excitement, please just let us know who and when.

RP - Islander Tales - Moira’s Histories of the Island
    Starting Point: The Hold Dining Room
        MoiraKathleen: So, we'll start at the Hold Dining Room for the RP session tomorrow.  At some point, probably near the end, we'll walk up to the Welcome Center to look at a couple of things from the history story.
    Plan A:
        Moira’s Tales (Histories of the Island)
    Plan B:
        Genesis of the character
    Plan C:
        Briefly go over what info is on the NOVIPEAKS site and how to get to it in less than 24hrs of trying.